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Offline Porter ODoran

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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2017, 11:17:39 AM »
In my opinion, if you want to grow a beard, go right ahead. I would not think a man less manly, however, if he were unable to grow a beard, or required to shave because of some rule at his job.

What if he were perfectly able to grow a beard, and no one at his job would balk, but he just didn't feel like growing one?

Thank you.    I thought I was speaking swahili for a while there...

Careful.  You're going to prompt Alpha60 to start bloviating about the history of the Swahili language and stereotyping its speakers based on the writings of some 19th century British expedition to Kilwa.

Whenever I shave, I start fantasizing about Mor immediately thereafter.

Just sayin'

Yeah, but that also happens when you don't shave.

"Effeminate ... shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (St. Paul).

We've been through this before.  Shaving is not effeminate.  And lots of homosexuals are masculine.

"That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array" (St. Paul).

"Wives ... whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel" (St. Peter).

I think you're focusing too much on the letter of the law here at the expense of the spirit.  Do you really think that braids or plaits on a girl are a sign of impiety?  Oftentimes, those sorts of hairstyles can look very modest.  Same with gold, like a wedding band.  I think the basic message here is "don't be vain and flashy".

What about "long hair on the head of a man is a shame"?  How many non-monastic Orthodox converts obsessed with Tsarist Russia do you know with long ponytails?  And why aren't their prohibitions on shaving in the teachings of the Apostles if it means all that you and the Metro think it means?

Why are you talking to me? The Apostles can hear you in your heart.

And the dialogue sputters to a creaking halt with this cute non-answer and the accompanying refusal to address the questions posited in the quoted text here or in post # 32.  Why am I talking to you when the Apostles can hear me in my heart?  Because I embrace their teaching, and I don't think it aligns with your philosophy on beards and sexuality the way you think it does.

Every single reply in the post of yours that I responded to that way was you expressing beef with a direct quote from an Apostle. You find it cute; I find it disturbing. Maybe put your foot on the brake.
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2017, 11:35:42 AM »
Whenever I shave, I start fantasizing about Mor immediately thereafter.

Just sayin'

I've never seen you with a beard, so you must think of me often. 
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2017, 11:38:23 AM »
In my opinion, if you want to grow a beard, go right ahead. I would not think a man less manly, however, if he were unable to grow a beard, or required to shave because of some rule at his job.

What if he were perfectly able to grow a beard, and no one at his job would balk, but he just didn't feel like growing one?

Thank you.    I thought I was speaking swahili for a while there...

Careful.  You're going to prompt Alpha60 to start bloviating about the history of the Swahili language and stereotyping its speakers based on the writings of some 19th century British expedition to Kilwa.

Whenever I shave, I start fantasizing about Mor immediately thereafter.

Just sayin'

Yeah, but that also happens when you don't shave.

"Effeminate ... shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (St. Paul).

We've been through this before.  Shaving is not effeminate.  And lots of homosexuals are masculine.

"That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array" (St. Paul).

"Wives ... whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel" (St. Peter).

I think you're focusing too much on the letter of the law here at the expense of the spirit.  Do you really think that braids or plaits on a girl are a sign of impiety?  Oftentimes, those sorts of hairstyles can look very modest.  Same with gold, like a wedding band.  I think the basic message here is "don't be vain and flashy".

What about "long hair on the head of a man is a shame"?  How many non-monastic Orthodox converts obsessed with Tsarist Russia do you know with long ponytails?  And why aren't their prohibitions on shaving in the teachings of the Apostles if it means all that you and the Metro think it means?

Why are you talking to me? The Apostles can hear you in your heart.

And the dialogue sputters to a creaking halt with this cute non-answer and the accompanying refusal to address the questions posited in the quoted text here or in post # 32.  Why am I talking to you when the Apostles can hear me in my heart?  Because I embrace their teaching, and I don't think it aligns with your philosophy on beards and sexuality the way you think it does.

Every single reply in the post of yours that I responded to that way was you expressing beef with a direct quote from an Apostle. You find it cute; I find it disturbing. Maybe put your foot on the brake.

I don't grow my beard on my face. I grow my beard on my head. It's about 3 times as large as the beard you have in your pic. Does that count?
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2017, 11:46:01 AM »
So, Porter... does shaving make one gay?
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2017, 11:59:42 AM »
In my opinion, if you want to grow a beard, go right ahead. I would not think a man less manly, however, if he were unable to grow a beard, or required to shave because of some rule at his job.

What if he were perfectly able to grow a beard, and no one at his job would balk, but he just didn't feel like growing one?

Thank you.    I thought I was speaking swahili for a while there...

Careful.  You're going to prompt Alpha60 to start bloviating about the history of the Swahili language and stereotyping its speakers based on the writings of some 19th century British expedition to Kilwa.

Whenever I shave, I start fantasizing about Mor immediately thereafter.

Just sayin'

Yeah, but that also happens when you don't shave.

"Effeminate ... shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (St. Paul).

We've been through this before.  Shaving is not effeminate.  And lots of homosexuals are masculine.

"That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array" (St. Paul).

"Wives ... whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel" (St. Peter).

I think you're focusing too much on the letter of the law here at the expense of the spirit.  Do you really think that braids or plaits on a girl are a sign of impiety?  Oftentimes, those sorts of hairstyles can look very modest.  Same with gold, like a wedding band.  I think the basic message here is "don't be vain and flashy".

What about "long hair on the head of a man is a shame"?  How many non-monastic Orthodox converts obsessed with Tsarist Russia do you know with long ponytails?  And why aren't their prohibitions on shaving in the teachings of the Apostles if it means all that you and the Metro think it means?

Why are you talking to me? The Apostles can hear you in your heart.

And the dialogue sputters to a creaking halt with this cute non-answer and the accompanying refusal to address the questions posited in the quoted text here or in post # 32.  Why am I talking to you when the Apostles can hear me in my heart?  Because I embrace their teaching, and I don't think it aligns with your philosophy on beards and sexuality the way you think it does.

Every single reply in the post of yours that I responded to that way was you expressing beef with a direct quote from an Apostle. You find it cute; I find it disturbing. Maybe put your foot on the brake.

I don't grow my beard on my face. I grow my beard on my head. It's about 3 times as large as the beard you have in your pic. Does that count?

Don't feel bad. You make do with the testosterone you have.
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2017, 12:01:00 PM »
So, Porter... does shaving make one gay?

It might turn one masochist.
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2017, 12:37:35 PM »
Whenever I shave, I start fantasizing about Mor immediately thereafter.

Just sayin'

I've never seen you with a beard, so you must think of me often.
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2017, 01:30:36 PM »
So, Porter... does shaving make one gay?

It might turn one masochist.

Oh boy....
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Re: More beards, less gays
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2017, 01:51:45 PM »
In my opinion, if you want to grow a beard, go right ahead. I would not think a man less manly, however, if he were unable to grow a beard, or required to shave because of some rule at his job.

What if he were perfectly able to grow a beard, and no one at his job would balk, but he just didn't feel like growing one?

Thank you.    I thought I was speaking swahili for a while there...

Careful.  You're going to prompt Alpha60 to start bloviating about the history of the Swahili language and stereotyping its speakers based on the writings of some 19th century British expedition to Kilwa.

Whenever I shave, I start fantasizing about Mor immediately thereafter.

Just sayin'

Yeah, but that also happens when you don't shave.

"Effeminate ... shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (St. Paul).

We've been through this before.  Shaving is not effeminate.  And lots of homosexuals are masculine.

"That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array" (St. Paul).

"Wives ... whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel" (St. Peter).

I think you're focusing too much on the letter of the law here at the expense of the spirit.  Do you really think that braids or plaits on a girl are a sign of impiety?  Oftentimes, those sorts of hairstyles can look very modest.  Same with gold, like a wedding band.  I think the basic message here is "don't be vain and flashy".

What about "long hair on the head of a man is a shame"?  How many non-monastic Orthodox converts obsessed with Tsarist Russia do you know with long ponytails?  And why aren't their prohibitions on shaving in the teachings of the Apostles if it means all that you and the Metro think it means?

Why are you talking to me? The Apostles can hear you in your heart.

And the dialogue sputters to a creaking halt with this cute non-answer and the accompanying refusal to address the questions posited in the quoted text here or in post # 32.  Why am I talking to you when the Apostles can hear me in my heart?  Because I embrace their teaching, and I don't think it aligns with your philosophy on beards and sexuality the way you think it does.

Every single reply in the post of yours that I responded to that way was you expressing beef with a direct quote from an Apostle. You find it cute; I find it disturbing. Maybe put your foot on the brake.

Where exactly is my point of divergence with the teachings of any Apostle other than those of the Apostle Porter?
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