According to traditional Catholics (mostly sedevacantists ) the Vatican 2 church is a false church. All the Vatican 2 popes are antipopes. I agree with traditional Catholicism that the Roman Catholic Church lost so much with the change of the mass. The current mass is very bland in comparison etc. But something bothers me about traditional Catholics . Traditional Catholics believe that there isn't salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church and since the current Roman Catholic Church is false that means almost every person in the world will be condemned to hell by default. That's right Orthodox christians are condemned to hell , protestants are condemned to hell. Vatican 2 Catholics are condemned to hell. And of course every person of all other religions are condemned to hell by default , atheists and nonbeliever included of course. This doctrine bothers me because isn't fair. Most people don't choose were when and which religion to be born. What's the Orthodox Church take of this doctrine? Do the Orthodox Church believe that all non orthodox will be condemned to hell by default ? For something most people don't have control ?
so I assume you don't agree with the bible and the following Church fathers? you are aware the bible teaches few are saved?
St. Augustine (354-430), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "No man can find
salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have
everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have sacraments, one can
sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the Name of the Father and
the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation
except in the Catholic Church."
Pope St. Gregory the Great (590-604): "The holy universal Church teaches that it is
not possible to worship God truly except in Her and asserts that all who are outside of
Her will not be saved."
St. Fulgentius (468-533), Bishop: "Most firmly hold and never doubt that not only
pagans, but also Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the
Catholic Church, will go into eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
This expression comes from the writings of Saint Cyprian of Carthage, a bishop of the
3rd century, and is found his Letter LXXII, Ad Jubajanum de haereticis baptizandis,
and in Latin reads: “Salus extra ecclesiam non est”. The axiom is often used as shorthand
for the doctrine, upheld by the the Roman Catholic Church, that the Church is
absolutely necessary for salvation ("one true faith"). The theological basis for this
doctrine is founded on the beliefs that (1) Jesus Christ personally established the one
Church; and (2) the Church serves as the means by which the graces won by Christ are
communicated to believers.
Some of the most pertinent Roman Catholic expressions of this doctrine are: the
profession of faith of Pope Innocent III (1208), the profession of faith of the Fourth
Lateran Council (1215), the bull Unam sanctam of Pope Boniface VIII (1302), and the
profession of faith of the Council of Florence (1442). The axiom "No salvation outside
the Church" has been frequently repeated over the centuries in different terms by the
ordinary magisterium
This doctrine of the absolute necessity of union with the Church was taught in explicit
terms by Christ. Baptism, the act of incorporation among her members, He affirmed to
be essential to salvation. “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: he that
believeth not shall be condemned” (Mark 16:16). Any disciple who shall throw off
obedience to the Church is to be reckoned as one of the heathen: he has no part in the
Kingdom of God (Matthew 18:17). St. Paul is equally explicit. “A man that is a heretic”,
he writes to Titus, “after the first and second admonition avoid, knowing that he that is
such a one is . . . condemned by his own judgment” (Titus 3:10 sq.). The doctrine is
summed up in the phrase, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.
Today's pluralistic and godless society creates an environment of indifference in matters
of religion in order to achieve a false and empty unity and liberty. It is said that everyone
must be allowed to believe as they see fit and do what makes them happy. The
implication is that God is not very concerned about whether one believes in what is true,
for all will be saved as long as they are "nice." Some come to this conclusion by asserting
that there does not exist any objective truth for us to adhere to, which in turn leads to a
denial of the existence of God. Others say that there exist only a few basic objective
truths that we need to believe in order to be saved. Both opinions miss the plain reality
of the order established by God – one must believe all and everything that the Catholic
Church teaches to be saved.
This assertion implies that all non-Catholic religions are false, that only the Catholic
Church contains the entire deposit of Truth given to the Apostles by Christ, and that this
entire deposit – not a majority of it or a part of it – is necessary for salvation. Although
these truths are denied and scorned by today's world, they are fully in accord with
common sense and the constant teaching of the Church. Christ gave to the Apostles the
entire deposit of faith ("The Holy Ghost will teach you all things" John 14:26), told
them to pass it on to the world ("Going therefore, teach ye all nations" Matt. 28:19),
and threatened damnation for those who did not believe them ("He who believes not
will be condemned" Mark 16:16). He would not have condemned to hell the disbelievers
if either it was not important to believe all that the Apostles taught or if He was not
certain that the Apostles were teaching the truth ("He that heareth you heareth Me"
Luke 10:16). The Apostles themselves knew that all who believed in any way different
from their infallible teaching would perish – "But though we, or an angel from heaven,
preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be
anathema" (Gal. 1:

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