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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2018, 03:53:27 PM »
i font like harry potter it leads people to the Wicca faith and to practice sorcery and witchcraft

Pretty sure the author belongs to the Church of England.

Scottish Episcopal Church, but close as makes no difference.

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2018, 09:57:51 PM »
Demon owls luring children to satanism.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2018, 08:55:48 AM »
Demon owls luring children to satanism.

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2018, 12:55:35 PM »
The Harry Potter books should be read in the following order:

1. Redwall
2. Pages 126-233 of Harry Potter IV
3. The Hobbit until you get to the dragon
4. ASCII art depicting Cary Fischer's final moments
5. The eagles scene from Lord of the Rings overlayed with the intro music from Star Trek: First Contact
6. Harry Potter I, just the childhood abuse scenes
7. Lavar Burton's autobiography, read while glancing at a poster of wonder woman and an IDF recruitment pamphlet
8. The train scenes from the Narnia series
9. Rowling's tweet where she makes Harry and Hermione get together
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2018, 02:55:16 PM »
The Harry Potter books should be read in the following order:

1. Redwall
2. Pages 126-233 of Harry Potter IV
3. The Hobbit until you get to the dragon
4. ASCII art depicting Cary Fischer's final moments
5. The eagles scene from Lord of the Rings overlayed with the intro music from Star Trek: First Contact
6. Harry Potter I, just the childhood abuse scenes
7. Lavar Burton's autobiography, read while glancing at a poster of wonder woman and an IDF recruitment pamphlet
8. The train scenes from the Narnia series
9. Rowling's tweet where she makes Harry and Hermione get together

Wait, when do you read the comments she made about Johnny Depp? From what I've read on Twitter that's the most important stuff she's said in the last decade ???
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2018, 10:00:25 PM »
Finished Goblet of Fire a few hours ago.  Next is Order of the Phoenix.  I hope I can read that in a week.

I wish I read these books when they were released.  My own hubris and incorrect assumptions kept me from reading them.  Plus, back then, I could read an entire book in 1-2 nights.


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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2018, 11:32:19 PM »
Finished Goblet of Fire a few hours ago.  Next is Order of the Phoenix.  I hope I can read that in a week.

I wish I read these books when they were released.  My own hubris and incorrect assumptions kept me from reading them.  Plus, back then, I could read an entire book in 1-2 nights.

Quit flagellating yourself, it's only a mediocre fiction series. I'm glad you like it, but sheesh...
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2018, 04:08:06 PM »
Finished Order of the Phoenix on Saturday.  I've started on Half-Blood Prince and borrowed Deathly Hallows once I finish Half-Blood Prince.

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2018, 03:49:42 PM »
I've completed all 7 books in the Harry Potter series after finishing Deathly Hallows in a 10 hour binge session.  I enjoyed reading the series, which has elements of King Arthur, 1984, and James Bond.

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2018, 05:06:50 PM »
We are impressed by your reading prowess, good job!
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2018, 01:27:32 PM »
i still do not like harry potter.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2018, 03:27:44 PM »
I've completed all 7 books in the Harry Potter series after finishing Deathly Hallows in a 10 hour binge session.

My husband read the hardback in about 6 hours - started when we came back from the midnight run on release day, went to bed after an hour or so, then resumed the next day after breakfast and he was done by lunchtime. :o
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2018, 03:58:47 PM »
I've completed all 7 books in the Harry Potter series after finishing Deathly Hallows in a 10 hour binge session.  I enjoyed reading the series, which has elements of King Arthur, 1984, and James Bond.

Wow, did it take you a lot of caffeine?
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2018, 08:10:01 PM »
i still do not like harry potter.

It's likely been ruined for me by overexposure, heh.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2018, 09:54:47 PM »
Wow, did it take you a lot of caffeine?

Just a Pepsi at dinner.  I was motivated to finish the series.

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2018, 09:56:34 PM »
We are impressed by your reading prowess, good job!

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2018, 12:06:52 AM »
I like Harry Potter.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2018, 01:50:41 AM »
Yep ```
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2018, 10:02:10 AM »
A thought I had yesterday:

If the Paris School was divided into Hogwarts-style houses: Florovsky; Schmemann; Bulgakov; and Bloom (with their analogues being Hufflepuff, Slytherin, Ravenclaw and Gryffindor, respectfully).
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2018, 10:09:49 AM »
Lol nice
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2018, 11:32:10 AM »
Do you ~ any or you ~ have a wand ~ close at hand ```
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2018, 11:40:38 AM »
Do you ~ any or you ~ have a wand ~ close at hand ```

Yes, a Ruger PC9.  You need it?
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2018, 12:17:26 PM »
Do you ~ any or you ~ have a wand ~ close at hand ```

Of course. A cauldron, too.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2018, 07:11:49 PM »
This laptop is sitting on two wands ~ that allows great air circulation ```


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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2018, 05:08:01 PM »
but ~ not one ~ has a wand ~ not one ```
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #72 on: April 06, 2019, 04:20:57 PM »
Polish priest apologises for Harry Potter book burning

A priest in northern Poland who led a public burning of books that included Harry Potter titles and other “evil” items parishioners wanted destroyed has apologised...
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #73 on: April 06, 2019, 07:02:21 PM »
My opinion can be best summed up by a certain user on a Trad Cat forum I'm a member of (Suscipe Domine)

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That’s a laugh. You’re the one, in complete ignorance of the subject matter, making appeals to the “authority” of a priest on a subject of which he appears to be almost as ignorant as you are. And he’d likely have to be, since he’d be forbidden to even study the occult and publically-available literature in question, like the Corpus Hermeticum, the Greek Magical Papyri, the Kabbalistic texts, the Picatrix, the Solomonic grimoires like the Hygromanteia, Lemegeton, Key of Solomon or Grimorium Verum, the collections of folk magic and spells, the classics on occult philosophy of Agrippa, Bruno and Paracelsus, the later writings of Eliphas Levi, A.E. Waite, Mathers, Regardie and the Golden Dawn manuals, or the modern practitioners.

If one is making the assertion that “real spells” exist in the pages of the Harry Potter books, then one ought to evidence that by example. Nobody has done so. But it’s absurd on the face of it, as waving a wand while uttering some fake Latin words is not a spell nor casting a spell, which requires preparation, astrological timing, ritual preliminaries and invocations, entering into gnostic trance, rhythmic repetition, and application of imagination and force of will; that is, if one is not invoking a spirit over days over ritually prepared device or evoking a spirit to manifestation to exorcise, bind and command it to perform a task, or forming a pact with it. But none of that appears in Rowling’s work, even in rudimentary or superficial form.

If one is making the assertion that the Harry Potter books contain the names of demons, then one ought to evidence that. Of course, that’s more unevudenced baloney, and consultation of any demonolological works or spirit lists, be they the Bible, Nag Hammadi library, Testament of Solomon, Hygromanteia, Ars Goetia, Steganographica, Ars Theurgia, Book of Abramelin etc., will leave one coming up empty handed.

If one is making the assertion that Rowling understands the occult and has written a “training manual”, then one ought to evidence that too. But she demonstrates not even a basic knowledge of meditative practice in any system east or west, how divination works from the perspective of the visionary, spiritual hierarchies, Neoplatonic cosmology, astrology as applied to magical practice, the elementary divisions of magic, the Kabbalistic “Tree of Life” and its worlds, or any magical theory on how it all fits together and works.

That’s not an appeal to authority. It’s a statement of facts which will be corroborated by anyone else in the know, and by in-the-know, I don’t mean someone who dabbled for six months in Gardnerian Wicca and read one Lewellyn-published book picked off the shelf of the local pop occult store when she was a teenager.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #74 on: April 06, 2019, 08:53:56 PM »
My opinion can be best summed up by a certain user on a Trad Cat forum I'm a member of (Suscipe Domine)

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That’s a laugh. You’re the one, in complete ignorance of the subject matter, making appeals to the “authority” of a priest on a subject of which he appears to be almost as ignorant as you are. And he’d likely have to be, since he’d be forbidden to even study the occult and publically-available literature in question, like the Corpus Hermeticum, the Greek Magical Papyri, the Kabbalistic texts, the Picatrix, the Solomonic grimoires like the Hygromanteia, Lemegeton, Key of Solomon or Grimorium Verum, the collections of folk magic and spells, the classics on occult philosophy of Agrippa, Bruno and Paracelsus, the later writings of Eliphas Levi, A.E. Waite, Mathers, Regardie and the Golden Dawn manuals, or the modern practitioners.

If one is making the assertion that “real spells” exist in the pages of the Harry Potter books, then one ought to evidence that by example. Nobody has done so. But it’s absurd on the face of it, as waving a wand while uttering some fake Latin words is not a spell nor casting a spell, which requires preparation, astrological timing, ritual preliminaries and invocations, entering into gnostic trance, rhythmic repetition, and application of imagination and force of will; that is, if one is not invoking a spirit over days over ritually prepared device or evoking a spirit to manifestation to exorcise, bind and command it to perform a task, or forming a pact with it. But none of that appears in Rowling’s work, even in rudimentary or superficial form.

If one is making the assertion that the Harry Potter books contain the names of demons, then one ought to evidence that. Of course, that’s more unevudenced baloney, and consultation of any demonolological works or spirit lists, be they the Bible, Nag Hammadi library, Testament of Solomon, Hygromanteia, Ars Goetia, Steganographica, Ars Theurgia, Book of Abramelin etc., will leave one coming up empty handed.

If one is making the assertion that Rowling understands the occult and has written a “training manual”, then one ought to evidence that too. But she demonstrates not even a basic knowledge of meditative practice in any system east or west, how divination works from the perspective of the visionary, spiritual hierarchies, Neoplatonic cosmology, astrology as applied to magical practice, the elementary divisions of magic, the Kabbalistic “Tree of Life” and its worlds, or any magical theory on how it all fits together and works.

That’s not an appeal to authority. It’s a statement of facts which will be corroborated by anyone else in the know, and by in-the-know, I don’t mean someone who dabbled for six months in Gardnerian Wicca and read one Lewellyn-published book picked off the shelf of the local pop occult store when she was a teenager.

Love the new avatar, i cant read what it says but i know spice guy when i see him, and you do spice it up....

Like most things kids can overdose on Harry Potter, as with star wars, star trek, etc.

But after watching all 17 harry potter movies i can tell you with certainty, they arent very good. I read one book, (because i had too) and it was ok for a teenager novel, but i just dont see why grown adults get carried away with it.
Thats my 3 cents.

But i dont like 70% of the movies out today, and i hate 99% of those mind numbing superhero ones,  so take that into account

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #75 on: April 06, 2019, 09:49:36 PM »
We enjoyed them ```
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #76 on: April 06, 2019, 11:36:56 PM »
Love the new avatar, i cant read what it says but i know spice guy when i see him, and you do spice it up....

It says "Carthage must be destroyed" in Latin, it's a phrase attributed to Cato the Elder. According to legend, after the Romans had overrun Carthage in the end of the Third Punic War, they poured Salt on the remains of the city so nothing could ever grow there again.

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Like most things kids can overdose on Harry Potter, as with star wars, star trek, etc.

But after watching all 17 harry potter movies i can tell you with certainty, they arent very good. I read one book, (because i had too) and it was ok for a teenager novel, but i just dont see why grown adults get carried away with it.
Thats my 3 cents.

Honestly, I can understand why many conservative Christian parents, and even Exorcists, are hesitant for these books.

Unlike say something like Lord of the Rings or Narnia, where Magic is simply a plot device, Harry Potter builds it's entire world as something fantastic and beautiful on magic, and creates an entire society based on magic.

However, I don't think that the "magic" that's described here is really connected to the Occult, as the quote I posted says.

When I was a kid, I was very much into Wizards - like Merlin and other things in the fantasy genre like that. What got me interested was a combination of AdventureQuest, Runescape and something I went to called "MagiQuest" in South Carolina for Vacation once. This place was a giant building, kind of like a pseudo-virtual reality game with interactive TV Screens and statues, and you had to do "quests" with an electronic wand that you purchase - the quests were "run around the building as fast as possible, going from Point A to Point B and Point B to Point D, and Point C to Point A" and you paid per hour. After you ran around the building enough, you get "runes" for doing what's required of you, and you fight these "duels" with monsters like a Goblin or Orc King and a Dragon, using the spells you "obtain."

I wasn't interested in Harry Potter until some time later, because I guess I was kind of a hipster as a kid. I was the weirdo interested in wizards - how could Harry Potter be good if nobody was into what I was into?

Needless to say that this led me to a book called "The Wizardology Handbook" - and while it was from a series of fantastical things and many of the things in this book were fantastical, like leprechauns, unicorns, dragons, etc., I will say that this book is far, far more dangerous for getting kids into the Occult - and I wonder if the author seriously had sinister intentions; perhaps the author was into the Occult himself - one of the most disturbing things about this book that I vividly remember was that the book personified the four elements of nature (fire, water, earth, and air) as "four spirits," and I remember the book basically told the reader that these four spirits are responsible for making magic work, and it had a page for veneration for these four spirits, which had a poem saying things along the lines of "Hail ----, the spirit of fire and power! Hail ----, the spirit of air and movement!"

Reading it and being interested in it violated my conscious. I thankfully didn't go further down the rabbit hole int actual Occult literature when my religious Catholic grandfather intervened and angrily told me that the only God I should be worshiping and praising is Jesus Christ, when he read the book itself.

My point is that I don't think Harry Potter will get kids into the Occult unless they come to the conclusion that Harry Potter isn't fantastical or get so obsessed with wizardry that they look more into it; in the case of me, Harry Potter wasn't even required for that temptation to occur to me in my life.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2019, 05:13:09 AM »
This thread spun off from this one: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,52597.0.html

Hopefully we don't have to discuss it all over again for the new people.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2019, 05:25:42 AM »
Sometimes I wonder why I'm still on OCnet on a daily basis and then I see a thread called "retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter" with 77 responses.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2019, 11:55:09 AM »
Love the new avatar, i cant read what it says but i know spice guy when i see him, and you do spice it up....

It says "Carthage must be destroyed" in Latin, it's a phrase attributed to Cato the Elder. According to legend, after the Romans had overrun Carthage in the end of the Third Punic War, they poured Salt on the remains of the city so nothing could ever grow there again.

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Like most things kids can overdose on Harry Potter, as with star wars, star trek, etc.

But after watching all 17 harry potter movies i can tell you with certainty, they arent very good. I read one book, (because i had too) and it was ok for a teenager novel, but i just dont see why grown adults get carried away with it.
Thats my 3 cents.

Honestly, I can understand why many conservative Christian parents, and even Exorcists, are hesitant for these books.

Unlike say something like Lord of the Rings or Narnia, where Magic is simply a plot device, Harry Potter builds it's entire world as something fantastic and beautiful on magic, and creates an entire society based on magic.

However, I don't think that the "magic" that's described here is really connected to the Occult, as the quote I posted says.

When I was a kid, I was very much into Wizards - like Merlin and other things in the fantasy genre like that. What got me interested was a combination of AdventureQuest, Runescape and something I went to called "MagiQuest" in South Carolina for Vacation once. This place was a giant building, kind of like a pseudo-virtual reality game with interactive TV Screens and statues, and you had to do "quests" with an electronic wand that you purchase - the quests were "run around the building as fast as possible, going from Point A to Point B and Point B to Point D, and Point C to Point A" and you paid per hour. After you ran around the building enough, you get "runes" for doing what's required of you, and you fight these "duels" with monsters like a Goblin or Orc King and a Dragon, using the spells you "obtain."

I wasn't interested in Harry Potter until some time later, because I guess I was kind of a hipster as a kid. I was the weirdo interested in wizards - how could Harry Potter be good if nobody was into what I was into?

Needless to say that this led me to a book called "The Wizardology Handbook" - and while it was from a series of fantastical things and many of the things in this book were fantastical, like leprechauns, unicorns, dragons, etc., I will say that this book is far, far more dangerous for getting kids into the Occult - and I wonder if the author seriously had sinister intentions; perhaps the author was into the Occult himself - one of the most disturbing things about this book that I vividly remember was that the book personified the four elements of nature (fire, water, earth, and air) as "four spirits," and I remember the book basically told the reader that these four spirits are responsible for making magic work, and it had a page for veneration for these four spirits, which had a poem saying things along the lines of "Hail ----, the spirit of fire and power! Hail ----, the spirit of air and movement!"

Reading it and being interested in it violated my conscious. I thankfully didn't go further down the rabbit hole int actual Occult literature when my religious Catholic grandfather intervened and angrily told me that the only God I should be worshiping and praising is Jesus Christ, when he read the book itself.

My point is that I don't think Harry Potter will get kids into the Occult unless they come to the conclusion that Harry Potter isn't fantastical or get so obsessed with wizardry that they look more into it; in the case of me, Harry Potter wasn't even required for that temptation to occur to me in my life.

I agree, i just see how certain people can dive deep into a subject, potter, star wars, superhero, etc.
Which in todays over stimulated society is pushed.

Potter is a teenager coming of age story, to me it read like that. I think kids will read and watch things that are like this, but so long as we dont let them see it to early (language, sexual themes, adult situations) or get carried away to much, it wont turn them into a wicca nuttjob who paints with blood.

But I'm sure there are people who got into wicca, satanism because of harry potter, or lord of the rings, or MLP, those people probably had messed up childhoods or cruddy parents

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #80 on: April 11, 2019, 12:02:26 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #81 on: April 11, 2019, 03:38:55 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Have you seen how big Dobby’s Nose is?
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2019, 03:40:23 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Have you seen how big Dobby’s Nose is?

Ah, but does it vibrate?
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2019, 04:05:27 PM »
Oh, so that's why Harry gave him a sock.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #84 on: April 11, 2019, 05:23:34 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Sexual tension is noticeable to children

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #85 on: April 11, 2019, 05:26:02 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Have you seen how big Dobby’s Nose is?

How about a vibrating broomstick for girls?

https://www.methodshop.com/2003/12/harry-potter-broomstick.shtml

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #86 on: April 11, 2019, 06:00:22 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Sexual tension is noticeable to children

What sexual tension are we talking about? Romeo and Juliet? The Bible? It seems strange to have a blanket ban on it.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #87 on: April 11, 2019, 06:10:55 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Sexual tension is noticeable to children

What sexual tension are we talking about? Romeo and Juliet? The Bible? It seems strange to have a blanket ban on it.

Why act like it wasnt geared towards adolescents, and how does Hollywood relate to people at that age?
Dont act like there wasnt sexual tension.

I never said it needs to be banned did I?

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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #88 on: April 11, 2019, 06:18:58 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Sexual tension is noticeable to children

What sexual tension are we talking about? Romeo and Juliet? The Bible? It seems strange to have a blanket ban on it.

Why act like it wasnt geared towards adolescents, and how does Hollywood relate to people at that age?
Dont act like there wasnt sexual tension.

I never said it needs to be banned did I?

Sorry, I misspoke. By "ban" I meant "blanket moratorium on letting kids read it." It kind of has to be judged on a case by case basis, especially given the classic works that we do let kids read.

I'm not sure there's all that much tension in Harry Potter, just some mild stuff between the main characters (Rowling's attempts at gay retconning Dumbledore notwithstanding). Then again, I've not seen the movies nor read the books.
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Re: Retraction of all bad things said about Harry Potter
« Reply #89 on: April 11, 2019, 06:21:08 PM »
There are sexual themes in Harry Potter?

Sexual tension is noticeable to children

What sexual tension are we talking about? Romeo and Juliet? The Bible? It seems strange to have a blanket ban on it.

Why act like it wasnt geared towards adolescents, and how does Hollywood relate to people at that age?
Dont act like there wasnt sexual tension.

I never said it needs to be banned did I?

Adolescents are familiar with sexual tension in their lives, why is it problematic when it's fictional adolescents in books? We're talking about the source material here, not the movies.

By the way, here's an interesting little piece about how the significance of the kissing scenes in the books can shift in the movies.
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