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How many children do you have?

None
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1 kid
20 (16.4%)
2 kids
24 (19.7%)
3 kids
16 (13.1%)
many kids
22 (18%)

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Kid Count
« on: September 13, 2005, 12:10:09 PM »
We talk about procreation here; is anyone doing it?

NB-- if you are unmarried, answer the question anyway.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2005, 12:16:52 PM »
I think the question is bound to produce a faulty answer.  There are some who have never used contraception but whom God has not blessed with a child; single people being mixed in with married people is going to skew the answer; and it seems to me that what you are going for is confirmation that the majority of the posters here do not have children or do not have many children and that therefore, you being a person with multiple children are in a better position because of life experience to talk about matters of procreation. Or am I wrong?

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2005, 12:29:06 PM »
We just had our first, but we've just started!!! LOL
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2005, 12:44:56 PM »
...and it seems to me that what you are going for is confirmation that the majority of the posters here do not have children or do not have many children and that therefore, you being a person with multiple children are in a better position because of life experience to talk about matters of procreation. Or am I wrong?

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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2005, 02:17:27 PM »
(I)t seems to me that what you are going for is confirmation that the majority of the posters here do not have children or do not have many children and that therefore, you being a person with multiple children are in a better position because of life experience to talk about matters of procreation. Or am I wrong?

About which part?ÂÂ  :D

I'm really not interested in the "need to breed" threads, at least as far as participating is concerned. I do think, however, that these discussions do need some grounding in reality. Talking about having children is very abstract in a culture where marriage is often late, where there is pressure to delay children, etc., etc., etc. If those who are talking about the obligation to have children are actually putting it off for one reason or another, the conclusion one might draw is that this obligation doesn't rank very high in the scheme of things. Or worse-- that it is someone else's job to have the babies. On the other hand, most of us might be college students or unmarried young people who obviously aren't in a position to start yet. But that does tend to render the discussion something of a bull session, does it not?

Of course, it may also mean that anyone with four kids doesn't have time for internet forums.  ;D :D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2005, 03:14:12 PM »
My days of pro-creation are over, now it's just a coupling in the manner of vulcans...unless there is a over indulgence of a certain alcoholic beverage...which is followed by repentance...that's if what proceeded it is remembered.

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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2005, 03:53:38 PM »
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Of course, it may also mean that anyone with four kids doesn't have time for internet forums. ;D :D ;D


Well, I have four kids, but I'm also forced to live apart from my family while I'm at school, which is why I guess I have time for internet forums... :D
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2005, 04:04:15 PM »
Well, I have four kids, but I'm also forced to live apart from my family while I'm at school, which is why I guess I have time for internet forums... :D

Wow, really?  Ugh.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2005, 07:39:58 PM »
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Nah, as cynical as his question my sound, I think you're thinking too cynical back.

But as the history of this board shows Keble has turned to the ad hominem when he can't debate his opponents, so I think some cynicism is merited. 

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2005, 09:06:08 PM »
is anyone doing it?

Could that question be any more personal? :D
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2005, 12:00:30 AM »
But as the history of this board shows Keble has turned to the ad hominem when he can't debate his opponents, so I think some cynicism is merited. 

What's there to be cynical about? Right now we're up to about 1.3 children per member, the meaning of which is left to the reader. It is a datum, not an argument.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2005, 03:28:14 AM »
I put one kid for my hubby and I, but if you were to count the two of us as well then I guess you'd have ta say there's three kids in our family :)  I think my husband and I are definetly big kids because we both enjoy playing games and stuff like that.  (no offense meant of course!) I very much want to have more children of our own as well though chances are we'll have to settle for just one, or have to adopt since my docs are so negative on me getting pregnant again. *sighs*

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2005, 04:02:33 AM »
I put two even though the second one is actually 'on the way'. I have one son and we're expecting another child on 18th December (strangely enough the feast day of the saint we had decided would be the next child's patron way back when the first was born). The sonographer told my wife she thinks we're expecting a daughter (I wasn't interested in knowing the sex, personally) which would be quite nice, but I don't hold too much to the accuracy of such predictions.

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2005, 04:56:00 AM »
God has considered us worthy (which we aren't) of being the parents of three children. We'd love to have more but God probably wants us to learn to manage with these three first.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2005, 03:07:26 PM »
Currently holding at about 1.5 kids per respondent.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2005, 04:15:04 PM »
Which of course is a hopelessly skewed statistic since it takes into account people (like myself) who are at present unmarried and thus not in a position to have children and it also is skewed because it includes many younger people that will likely have more children. 

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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2005, 04:31:07 PM »
No babies for Mr. and Mrs. PhosZoe...yet.  :D

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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2005, 05:26:23 PM »
Which of course is a hopelessly skewed statistic since it takes into account people (like myself) who are at present unmarried and thus not in a position to have children and it also is skewed because it includes many younger people that will likely have more children.ÂÂ  

Skewed from what? What number is supposed to appear?

If one wanted something to compare against, one would need to work through the demographics of what a population of, I don't know, 18-60 year olds or something would have in the way of kids. There's probably a way to claw this out of census data, but the work involved exceeds my interest in finding out the answer. For all we know, 1.5 kids could be a reasonable number of present kids for a population whose average total kids might be 3 or 4 or 5.


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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2005, 10:51:57 PM »
I`ve got two, working on three ;)
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2005, 08:08:13 AM »
I have 5, could have had 9:


1 miscarriage
1 abortion (medical)
1 suprise
2 miscarriages
1 suprise (but i sort of wanted 2 anyway)
1 oops, what's one more (that i think was a twin, lost one of them)
1 oops, what's one more that turned out to be twins.

None of this was because i wanted to procreate excessively-- it just turned out that way, the birth control doesnt work if the hub won't wait 5 minutes.

My husband says that this is what happens when you mix alcohol and porn. I think he is right.  :o

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2005, 09:34:00 PM »
None myself, but I have to say on Sunday, the Rocor parish I attend looks like an Irish Catholic church circa 1950.  In other words, tons of kids!

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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2005, 12:41:12 AM »
I have 5, could have had 9:


1 miscarriage
1 abortion (medical)
1 suprise
2 miscarriages
1 suprise (but i sort of wanted 2 anyway)
1 oops, what's one more (that i think was a twin, lost one of them)
1 oops, what's one more that turned out to be twins.

None of this was because i wanted to procreate excessively-- it just turned out that way, the birth control doesnt work if the hub won't wait 5 minutes.

My husband says that this is what happens when you mix alcohol and porn. I think he is right.ÂÂ  :o

Of course, porn, getting drunk, abortions & birth control are all non orthodox. But why would you post such scandalous things in public where your kids could one day read them?

I am also rather scandalized by your posting.  Hardly appropriate things for an Orthodox Christian to engage in.



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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2005, 12:50:46 AM »
Of course, porn, getting drunk, abortions & birth control are all non orthodox. But why would you post such scandalous things in public where your kids could one day read them?

I am also rather scandalized by your posting. Hardly appropriate things for an Orthodox Christian to engage in.




I have to second that...I agree with 'jim beam' on this one.  I had a miscarriage, and I wasn't supposed to even have ANY children due to my heart problems and the fact that it was dangerous for me to begin with, now I've been strongly advised to have no more children or our baby could lose her mother.  Having an abortion is really nothing to brag about either, I'm not in your shoes, but I really think I have to agree with Rob on this one....you need to be more careful with what you post online, it sounds like you are bragging and it makes you sound like a bad person, I don't think you'd want your children to read what you've written in this thread....please be more careful next time! Although, some birth control is permitted in the Orthodox church, but only the non abortive kind.  At least, that is what a priest told me.  Please please be more careful!

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2005, 01:28:34 AM »
Mary, she said that the abortion was medical, which IMO is no more blame-worthy than a spontaneous abortion (aka miscarriage, which you yourself have had, and which I think something like 25% of conceptions end in).

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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2005, 07:15:35 AM »
Of course, porn, getting drunk, abortions & birth control are all non orthodox.

Of course not. Getting drunk is non-Orthodox? IS OUTRAGE! Is generations of Russians getting drunk!
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2005, 08:59:52 AM »
I don`t know about this one Jimmy,boy. Just last week,my priest and I were sipping on some outstanding vodka. I know some of my Greek friends from church would also take exception with your statement. They would probably say something like.."Oh! Another one of those crazy converts,condemning us all to hell!" ::)
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2005, 12:50:03 PM »
Mary, she said that the abortion was medical, which IMO is no more blame-worthy than a spontaneous abortion (aka miscarriage, which you yourself have had, and which I think something like 25% of conceptions end in).

I'm sorry I should be more careful with  what I say on here as well...I didn't see that the abortion was medical, I just saw abortion and I just jumped to conclusions, please forgive me for what I said aurelia.  Thankyou for pointing out my error Asteriktos.  I will be more careful in the future with how I saw things on here and how I read what others say as well. 

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2005, 08:56:03 PM »
Enjoying various drinks is one thing, getting drunk is another entirely.  I fail to see how a moderate drinker would object to being opposed to drunkeness. 

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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2005, 07:49:51 AM »
Of course, porn, getting drunk, abortions & birth control are all non orthodox. But why would you post such scandalous things in public where your kids could one day read them?

I am also rather scandalized by your posting.  Hardly appropriate things for an Orthodox Christian to engage in.

Well--and this is to Mr. Beam as well as the other scandalized folks--aurelia has said on the convert forum that her husband engages in such activity while she--being the one who takes the kids faithfully to a GOA parish in town every Sunday for their catechumenate--would very much like him to stop.

I don't think she approves of these activities at all.  I admire her for her steadfastness with someone so different in the house--and a husband, at that!
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2005, 09:13:54 AM »
Right on, Pedro!  :)  Aurelia should get our support, not hasty remarks. 

Aurelia has been through *a lot* with the miscarriages and the *medical* procedure.  (Remember, sometimes things go wrong and unhappily this has to happen if the mother is to live.) 

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« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2005, 02:21:30 PM »
"Hardly appropriate things for an Orthodox Christian to engage in."

ah, but at the time i wasn't.  I'm a convert, remember?

I don't like porn. My husband does.  I find it revolting.  I like a glass of wine now and again, he is convinced I and he have to be drunk so that I'm "more fun".  It's a conflict of opinion we have.  He may have been drunk, but I wasn't. 

"Well--and this is to Mr. Beam as well as the other scandalized folks--aurelia has said on the convert forum that her husband engages in such activity while she--being the one who takes the kids faithfully to a GOA parish in town every Sunday for their catechumenate--would very much like him to stop.

I don't think she approves of these activities at all.  I admire her for her steadfastness with someone so different in the house--and a husband, at that!
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Very true, and I thank you for that.  yes the abortion was medically necessary...as was my tubal ligation after the twins...I'd rather not die right now, I have kids to raise!!!

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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2005, 09:38:34 AM »
In defense of Aurelia, she is one of my favorite posters.  Why?  Because she inspires me.  My husband isn't interested in becoming Orthodox, and that makes things hard sometimes.   Aurelia?  She found what was right for her, and knew it was right for her five children, and has perservered.   I'm sure it's not easy, and she has always been so honest about everything here.   Can you imagine getting five children ready on Sunday?  And trying to keep them all happy?  And her positive attitude about a lot of it is contagious.    I understand, too, her post was misunderstood in some areas.    We have all done that. 

I really think Aurelia deserves high praise for what she has tried to do.   She inspires me, and many others. Sometimes there is a twist of humor in there, too.  We all need humor sometimes.

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Btw, are we counting step children (that don't live full time in the home) in the poll?     

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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2005, 10:51:46 AM »

((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))) thanks Irene, you're one of my faves too!!  *keep meaning to add you to my buddy list, i dont have anyone on there, and I wasnt in here for a long time*

I will confess that I dont always bring all of them.  Definetly the two younger girls (especially as one is in the children's choir) but unless I have the oldest with me (which isn't always possible) I alternate boys, one one week, one the next.  And occasionally none, so I can actually go to church. I tried both by myself and they divided and conquered, and it wasn't pretty.   And the Yia Yia Patrol was not amused.  ::)  Seriously, they are a handful, so far we have made it to at most 10 minutes actually in the church service itself before we have to go to the quiet room, then the nursery.


"Btw, are we counting step children (that don't live full time in the home) in the poll?"   

Of course, why not, they come to your house and eat your food and draw on your walls and complain "I dont wanna go such and such is on tv"  like the rest of them!     ;D

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« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2005, 03:36:39 PM »
My wife and I haveÂÂ  five children all from this marriage (we have been married only once).

I have 7 grandchildren and 1 step-granddaughter, who oddly enough while being born to non-orthodox parents has an orthodox great grandmother who is thrilled that the grand-daughter's father married my daughter (They now have three children) and her grand-daughter is coming to the Orthodox Church Services and Sunday School with us.ÂÂ  So I guess I have the total of 8 grandchildren (4 boys and 4 girls).


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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2006, 09:50:38 AM »
In the poll, I counted in one biological, and two step children.  We have three cats who I was debating whether or not to count, because they act like toddlers, "no, no, don't touch that, no, no, don't climb up there", (crash)  ÃƒÆ’‚  ;D  

PS hi aurelia    Whether you take one, two, three, four, five, to church, you have a halo for trying  ÃƒÆ’‚Â
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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2006, 08:03:51 PM »
 :D Irene.  I'm a cat-person, too. But I don't think that they should go in the kid-count.  Besides, everyone knows that Cats are the ones who run things. ;)  Step-children count, of course.

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« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2006, 07:48:37 PM »
Ebor, that's true They do run things!
....if cats had a message board, would we be counted as their kids? ;D

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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2006, 10:42:46 AM »
(This is my first ever post  ;D)

I couldn't help but jump into this thread--hope I am not too late.

I am the mother of 7 blessings--do I win the prize for most children??  ;) And have been blessed with no miscarriages thus far.


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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2006, 10:52:04 AM »
Welcome, strebekah.  :) Not too late at all.

How old are yours, if I may ask? 

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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2006, 04:51:35 PM »
Thank you, Ebor.

My children are: 15yo boy; 13yo girl; 9 yo girl; 6yo boy (he will be 7 next week); 4yo boy; 2 yo boy; and Symeon was born November 16th.

The first four are "converts", the last three cradle Orthodox--well Symeon will be baptised on the 15th of this month.

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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2006, 06:58:53 PM »
Ah, two teenagers.  We get our first teenager in less then a month when our older boy turns 13....

Should I just start cringing now?

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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2006, 07:28:48 PM »
As they used to say in the English courts "May God have mercy on your soul"


We have raised our five thru their teenage years and let me tell you---for us the boys were much easier than the girls.

Remember to hold the line on what is right, they will appreciate it after they are teenagers, be consistent and fair, and most important of all----attend church as a family together.

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« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2006, 09:57:13 AM »
My teens aren't too bad. My daughter is like a 2nd mother and is a great help in a pinch---but tends to be moody and bossy at times. My son is just like his father but tends to be sarcastic at times. It helps that we homeschool so I don't get a LOT of attitude. And we DO attend church as a family. My son has been called our priest's right hand man at the altar. He serves every chance he gets.

So far it hasn't been that bad---it will let you know though when I have 3 teens in a few years! LOL

And I have to agree---so far, the boys are easier! LOL
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2006, 01:25:25 PM »
Ah, two teenagers.  We get our first teenager in less then a month when our older boy turns 13....

Should I just start cringing now?


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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2006, 09:35:33 PM »
Strebekah,

Hi and welcome!  ÃƒÆ’‚ My mouth dropped when I read you home school, on top of already being so busy.
I am nominating you for a halo!
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Welcome again, good to have you here!

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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2006, 09:51:55 PM »
Very true, and I thank you for that.

My pleasure.  You're inspiring, as I can't imagine the crosses you have to bear.

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« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2006, 10:43:54 PM »
4 children. Two boys and two girls... all 8 and under.... and home schooled.

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« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2006, 04:08:33 PM »
Been married almost 6 years now...no kids yet. I really don't know why it hasn't happened, but lately I decided I won't get worried about it anymore. It is in God's hands.

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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2006, 02:05:14 PM »
I was blessed to find out on the Feast of the Presentation that Baby Weakland #4 is on the way.
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« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2006, 02:05:31 AM »
I was blessed to find out on the Feast of the Presentation that Baby Weakland #4 is on the way.

Congratulations!  :)  :)  :)

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« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2006, 12:46:45 PM »
4 kids.  Could have been 10  :o  except for the numerous miscarriages.  The 4th is our miracle baby, as we had long since given up hope of having a fourth, and then my wife ended up on mag. sulfate at the end just before the emergency C section.

OTOH, we're not Orthodox ... yet :)

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« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2006, 10:43:03 PM »
I am new here and we have 7 children.  All bio, all homeschooled and the last few birthed at home.  We were I guess prot "quiverful's" for a while, but not in their definition. Now we are just weird O's.  

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2006, 10:35:03 PM »
I have 6.  Plus a nephew I have guardianship of.

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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2006, 08:44:26 AM »
Inherited two when I got married, 1 since.
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« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2006, 07:34:28 AM »
Quote
I am new here and we have 7 children.  All bio, all homeschooled and the last few birthed at home.  We were I guess prot "quiverful's" for a while, but not in their definition. Now we are just weird O's.

My wife and I were 'full quivers'.  We prayed that God would give us a full quiver of children.  We had fertility problems, one miscarriage and no offspring until God opened the way for us to adopt a newborn girl.  She is five now and has completely filled that quiver.  She is rambuncsious, gregarious, genetically programmed to get 300,000 words per day out of her mouth.  200,000 words of that are questions.  Our quiver couldn't hold another one.
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« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2008, 06:07:07 PM »
Thus far we have 3; girl(10-01) girl (7-05) boy (5-07)

Like those before we would have 8 kids but for several miscarriages, we lost twins early 2nd/late 1st trimester and a singleton between girl one and two, and then another singleton between the last girl and our boy. And as a crazy (read-stupid drugg addicted) teen I lost a baby when I was 13 years old (my husband was not the father). We hope to add another 1-3 more kids in the future. Getting pregnant and staying pregnant are two completely different things, as we have found. Lord willing I will never have miscarriage #4.
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« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2008, 06:25:49 PM »
Mr. Y and I have one girl, Caitlin, who is going to be nine months old in two weeks.  I also had a miscarriage not long ago, so I completely agree with you, Quinault.  It's so sad when it happens.
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« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2008, 06:33:05 PM »
Miscarriages are so hard to bear-I've had 2.  We have 4 children so far and we're expecting #5 on Feb 2. They are boy-15, boy-7, boy-6, girl-16mo, and we're hoping for another girl this time.   

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« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2008, 06:45:43 PM »
I have a 3 year old son who doesn't live with me and the story is very, very, very, very, very, long and sad  :'(.... 
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« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2008, 06:48:45 PM »
Miscarriages are so hard to bear-I've had 2.  We have 4 children so far and we're expecting #5 on Feb 2. They are boy-15, boy-7, boy-6, girl-16mo, and we're hoping for another girl this time.  

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« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2008, 06:49:01 PM »
I have a 3 year old son who doesn't live with me and the story is very, very, very, very, very, long and sad  :'(.... 

I would love to hear it if you feel like sharing.

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« Reply #62 on: July 23, 2008, 07:04:25 PM »
I would love to hear it if you feel like sharing.

One day, I'll reveal some elements of the story.  I was responding to the poll.   :)

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« Reply #63 on: July 23, 2008, 08:11:57 PM »
Only one.  No others seem to be coming at the moment, even though we want another one.
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« Reply #64 on: July 23, 2008, 08:44:05 PM »
I managed to produce three before firmly declaring that was it for me! Younger daughter has done much better; she is onto #7. Due in November, it's a girl; after the last four being boys!! YAY!!! \o/

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« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2008, 10:17:37 PM »
I don't plan on having any for quite some time.  :D
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« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2008, 10:45:20 PM »
We have 5, ages 9, 7, 6, 3, 18 months.

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« Reply #67 on: August 05, 2008, 06:15:36 PM »
I don't plan on having any for quite some time.  :D
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« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2008, 07:46:22 AM »
My wife and I have just celebrated our 25th anniversary on July 30th.

We have only one child, a daughter, who is now 24.

When we just got married and had our daughter, my wife had one miscarriage after another. It was awful; once, a doctor told me that she had been close to death after a terrible blood loss. He also said that my wife and I had a blood group incompatibility, so that it is a mystery, a miracle that we had even one child.

After this sad experience, we started to use an artificial contraception method (barrier). Back then, we were not Orthodox yet (I was not even baptized at all and my wife was baptized, but not believing). So it did not even occur to us to ask for a priest's blessing to do that. We simply did what we both thought was good for our marriage.

We never adopted any children. Sometimes I regret that we did not. I love kids so much, and I miss having small kids, taking care of them. Those years when my daughter was a tiny baby and I fed her porrige for breakfast or read her some fairy tales were the best part of my whole life, absolutely. :) But then, thinking rationally, I understand that it was impossible for us to adopt. Before 1990, we lived in a tiny one-room apartment that was way too small even for the three of us. In 1990, we moved to the USA and began to live in slightly bigger apartments, and then in a house (since June 2000); but we always worked full time in science, which is hardly compatible with taking care of several children.

Now that my daughter is happily married, I am eager to become a grandfather. :)
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« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2008, 06:33:28 PM »
George, it really shakes me up, and is very sobering, to hear of all the sorrows and difficulties you and your wife endured in this area of life.  :'(

I pray God will bless you  indeed with many grandchildren!
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« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2008, 07:31:55 PM »
Been married to a Princess now for 6 1/2 years (so I guess that means six months until we really hate each other  ;) )

And we got blessed with 5.

Samuel 5 1/2

Alexander 4

Nathaniel 2 3/4

Margaret 1 3/4 (she and Nate are a year and a day apart)

William 3 months.

It can be a bit tough, but life is sweet.
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« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2008, 07:48:13 PM »
My wife gave birth to our first son Nicholas 3 weeks ago.
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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2008, 08:12:50 PM »
My wife gave birth to our first son Nicholas 3 weeks ago.

Congradulations!- it only gets better- not even the worst of diapers can prevent that.

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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2008, 08:39:47 PM »
Nicholas is adorable!

And welcome, Ironsideroger! :)
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« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2008, 08:54:21 PM »
Thank you guys

My wife and i have been greatly blessed.

Its good to see many people are having up to 5 children.

God bless you all.
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« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2008, 09:32:27 PM »
And welcome, Ironsideroger! :)

Thank you!

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« Reply #76 on: September 24, 2008, 09:53:22 PM »
My wife gave birth to our first son Nicholas 3 weeks ago.

Isn't he just the most precious little one!  Oh my!  Sigh.....

I have two children.  Ian is 27 almost 28.  Brianna just turned 23.

I wish I had had more children.  Though I did childcare for a very long time thus was blessed to love and snuggle other people's little ones.   :)
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« Reply #77 on: September 25, 2008, 09:52:11 AM »
Young Master Nicolas is adorable.   :)

We would have had at least 4 but we lost one at an early stage.  So three is the count. 
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« Reply #78 on: September 25, 2008, 05:15:01 PM »
Ironsiderodger, welcome to the forum!

Byzantine2008, congratulations! Very beautiful baby.
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« Reply #79 on: September 29, 2008, 06:46:48 AM »
My wife gave birth to our first son Nicholas 3 weeks ago.

Hey, he's got the "serious theologian look" down cold! God grant him many years.

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« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2008, 07:09:13 PM »
Thank you everyone for your kind words.

He is special as all children are.

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« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2008, 07:09:53 PM »
My wife gave birth to our first son Nicholas 3 weeks ago.

Hey, he's got the "serious theologian look" down cold! God grant him many years.

I love your comment it made me smile.

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« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2008, 08:03:23 PM »
Many years to you and your son!
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« Reply #83 on: November 05, 2008, 07:22:59 PM »
Recently received our third child.

Attached picture of her, Alexandra when 8 days old.

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« Reply #84 on: November 05, 2008, 07:24:34 PM »
She's beautiful!
Many years to her, to you and to your family!
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« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2008, 07:26:46 PM »
Wonderful child, Robert! Congratulatuions! Many Years!
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« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2008, 07:36:07 PM »
Thank you for your kind words.

Let's hope that the saying "Cursed is the man with beautiful daughters" is not true  :laugh:

 :-[ sigh, better get a shotgun soon.

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« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2008, 08:00:17 PM »
Congrats! Many years!

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« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2008, 08:11:22 PM »
She is beautiful! Congratulations!

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« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2008, 08:18:49 PM »
Many years!  She's pretty!
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« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2008, 10:54:45 PM »
Recently received our third child.

Attached picture of her, Alexandra when 8 days old.

She is beautiful

God bless you and your family..

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« Reply #91 on: November 06, 2008, 12:18:14 AM »
Congratulations & Many Years!

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« Reply #92 on: November 06, 2008, 12:34:22 AM »
Many congratulations and good wishes for you and your wife and your family, Robert W.  The new little lady is quite adorable.  (And they all look so peaceful when they're asleep, don't they?  ;) )
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« Reply #93 on: November 06, 2008, 03:05:08 AM »
I am blessed with 7 in total, 5 biological and 2 step-children

Age-wise, there are 3 groupings, but thankfully they are all absolutely oblivious to the reality that they are sufficiently spread in age (and, in some cases, geography) that they could choose to ignore their sibs, step-sibs, and half-sibs without anyone thinking it much out-of-the-ordinary.  To my everlasting joy, they're remarkably tight-knit, close, and loving of one another (which is not to say that each doesn't have moments and even days when he/she probably wishes to have been an only child).   

- the 3 eldest are adults (usually), aged 32, 29, and 26 - one boy, flanked by a "big" sister and a "little" sister

- my stepchildren are teens, a boy 16, who has thankfully moved beyond the sulking teenager stage and emerged as a most likeable young man, and a lovely girl of 14, who has entered into her own stage this past year - may it be short-lived  ::)

- the "little ones" - most especially beloved of and spoiled outrageously by the other 5 - are 7 (he'll be 8 in about 3 weeks) and the littlest princess - chronologically 5, but she'll be about 47 any day now

At the moment, I'm also blessed by the presence of my favorite nephew (and the kids' favorite cousin), hmm - 30 yrs old - who is in the US doing a "junior year abroad" (my sister's family live in Ireland) and spends most weekends either here or with Timm, my eldest son.

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« Reply #94 on: November 06, 2008, 09:56:48 PM »
Thank you for your kind words.

Let's hope that the saying "Cursed is the man with beautiful daughters" is not true  :laugh:

 :-[ sigh, better get a shotgun soon.

A friend of mine has three beautiful daughters.  The middle one is 4 and my little boy seems to like her quite a bit.  The oldest is 7 and already getting checked out by the boys.  My friend, of course, is already worried.
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« Reply #95 on: November 07, 2008, 12:13:46 PM »
You are so cruel OrthodoxFairyQueen:'(
Why do you have twist the knife?  ;D ;D

Do mind that I am entertaining the idea that both my daughters will become nuns.  :police:
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2008, 12:00:56 AM »
I answered 0 when this poll first started, but now I have to amend my answer to "1."  Maybe I'll remember to post the ultrasound at some later date.
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2008, 10:00:28 AM »
Yes, please do!  And be forewarned, sometimes those ultrasound pics aren't as cute as you'd hope.  We had a 3D ultrasound of Miss Cait at 20 weeks and she looked like a little alien baby.   :laugh:
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #98 on: December 31, 2008, 11:11:06 AM »
Best wishes to you, your wife and the new person.  :)
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #99 on: December 31, 2008, 12:12:35 PM »
Yes, please do!  And be forewarned, sometimes those ultrasound pics aren't as cute as you'd hope.  We had a 3D ultrasound of Miss Cait at 20 weeks and she looked like a little alien baby.   :laugh:

The "face on" shot looks creepy; but the baby has given us a good profile shot or two.
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #100 on: December 31, 2008, 12:24:17 PM »
Many Years, dear Cleveland! Best wishes!
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #101 on: December 31, 2008, 12:30:27 PM »
Yes, please do!  And be forewarned, sometimes those ultrasound pics aren't as cute as you'd hope.  We had a 3D ultrasound of Miss Cait at 20 weeks and she looked like a little alien baby.   :laugh:

The "face on" shot looks creepy; but the baby has given us a good profile shot or two.

Yes, exactly!  ;D 
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #102 on: June 15, 2009, 05:21:03 PM »
Here's a picture of Eleni when she's less than 24 hours old...
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #103 on: June 15, 2009, 05:27:10 PM »
Here's a picture of Eleni when she's less than 24 hours old...

Beautiful!
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« Reply #104 on: June 15, 2009, 05:50:52 PM »
What a cute little girl!  :angel:
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2009, 06:42:07 PM »
A lovely baby!  She's so alert and with lots of hair it looks like.   

Remember!  Mother sleeps when she sleeps.  It's Important.  Trust me on this.

I hope that everyone is doing very well, indeed.
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #106 on: June 16, 2009, 09:04:34 AM »
Here's a picture of Eleni when she's less than 24 hours old...
She's adorable! Congratulations!
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #107 on: June 16, 2009, 04:58:47 PM »
A lovely baby!  She's so alert and with lots of hair it looks like.  

Remember!  Mother sleeps when she sleeps.  It's Important.  Trust me on this.

I hope that everyone is doing very well, indeed.

She's trying.  Just got the text message: "Boy do I look forward to more than 1 or 2 hours of sleep..."
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #108 on: June 16, 2009, 06:13:11 PM »
That time will come but the 3 AMs can seem to go on forever.... 

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #109 on: October 11, 2010, 10:00:29 PM »
I've had to amend my answer to this question for the second time in a year and a half.  Wow, how life changes!
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #110 on: October 11, 2010, 11:09:53 PM »
I've had to amend my answer to this question for the second time in a year and a half.  Wow, how life changes!

congratulations! 

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2010, 01:14:12 AM »
My 6th is due Feb. 17th. We found out we are having a  boy this time, and his name will be Liam.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2010, 01:20:25 AM »
My 6th is due Feb. 17th. We found out we are having a  boy this time, and his name will be Liam.


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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2010, 01:22:38 AM »
Thank you!  :)

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2010, 07:53:59 AM »
My 6th is due Feb. 17th. We found out we are having a  boy this time, and his name will be Liam.

That is SO wonderful!  Congratulations.  My 6th was a boy too.  I was so thankful that God granted me a another son because by #6 I was so tired of the neighborhood girl drama.  ::)  I'd take rambunctious boys over girl drama anyday.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #115 on: October 12, 2010, 11:57:12 AM »


That is SO wonderful!  Congratulations.  My 6th was a boy too.  I was so thankful that God granted me a another son because by #6 I was so tired of the neighborhood girl drama.  ::)  I'd take rambunctious boys over girl drama anyday.

Thanks! Your post made me laugh! So true; girls can be so dramatic, can't they?  :D  It will certainly be different with a boy again...we haven't had a little boy for 9 years!
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« Reply #116 on: October 12, 2010, 03:27:37 PM »
Had to revise my vote as our 2nd child is now 1 year old. :P
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« Reply #117 on: October 12, 2010, 05:14:41 PM »
I had to revise my vote to "many kids" since I now have 4 rather then 3 children.

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #118 on: December 06, 2010, 10:10:47 PM »
Daughter #2: Photini Christina

(1st pic is fuzzy)
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #119 on: December 06, 2010, 10:14:24 PM »
Father George, she's beautiful!  Many years!  :angel:
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« Reply #120 on: December 06, 2010, 10:15:32 PM »
I've got two kids--my son and my daughter-in-law.  ;D
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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #121 on: December 06, 2010, 11:47:04 PM »
Your daughter is beautiful, Fr. George!

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Re: Kid Count
« Reply #122 on: December 07, 2010, 10:56:33 AM »
All the best to you and your wife and the new little lady!  She is beautiful.  :)

(and I see that the maternity wards still use the same pattern of blankets that our kids were wrapped in.  ;) )

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