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« on: April 17, 2017, 07:00:50 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 07:50:32 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

So much for the Francis effect.   :)
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2017, 08:29:55 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

So much for the Francis effect.   :)
It apparently only works in the South. The Raleigh diocese is finishing a new cathedral, started what might be the world's first St. Theresa of Calcutta parish, and is ordaining priests somewhat regularly.
Or, maybe everyone from Pittsburgh is moving here? It's Pittsburgh, after all (ducking...!)
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 08:53:37 PM »
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 10:40:28 PM »
The Raleigh diocese is finishing a new cathedral, started what might be the world's first St. Theresa of Calcutta parish

There've been churches named for her in PA and NJ for years.
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 10:50:11 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

So much for the Francis effect.   :)
And the Pope Benedict effect, and Pope St John Paul II effect.  The numbers have been in decline a long time.
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2017, 12:12:01 AM »
The Raleigh diocese is finishing a new cathedral, started what might be the world's first St. Theresa of Calcutta parish

There've been churches named for her in PA and NJ for years.
I thought it was specifically as St. but I probably remembered it wrong  ::)
never mind
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 08:50:30 AM »
The Raleigh diocese is finishing a new cathedral, started what might be the world's first St. Theresa of Calcutta parish

There've been churches named for her in PA and NJ for years.
I thought it was specifically as St. but I probably remembered it wrong  ::)
never mind

I know that the church in NJ was "Blessed" or something for a long time, but as soon as the canonization was announced, they had the signs with "Saint" on them ready to go the next day!  ;D
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 02:13:42 AM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

So much for the Francis effect.   :)
And the Pope Benedict effect, and Pope St John Paul II effect.  The numbers have been in decline a long time.

That's true, even before that. It started to really decline in the 1950s in the US. Vatican II was just gasoline on the decline fire.   And I think different parts of the country are affected differently.  Same with the world really.  Look at Africa or Asia, then at the US, Europe, South America.   And in parts of the US, Catholicism is doing very well, the South for example.  But the Northeast and Rust Belt are in trouble.  The West Coast ain't doing so great either.  The RCC relies to a degree on Hispanics, but will they stay over time, as younger generations assimilate?  In South America, they go Protestant in pretty large numbers.  Or secular.  My point about Francis is that I don't see any energy or focus to understand/stop this (besides AL, more gasoline) - the so-called new Evangelization is stalled - the places where the Church is growing are places that are more traditional, orthodox in terms of the faith, not Francis-oriented.  The long term trends seem pretty Pittsburgh.  I could be wrong.  Besides, this is true of most Christian denominations.  I am not saying the Protestants or Orthodox are in a better situation necessarily.
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 05:26:42 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

Philly schools and churches are suffering through the same closings.... I think its mainly an inner city problem

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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2017, 07:04:35 PM »
Demographic shift.
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2017, 10:16:19 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

So much for the Francis effect.   :)
And the Pope Benedict effect, and Pope St John Paul II effect.  The numbers have been in decline a long time.

Yep. It's called the Vatican II effect.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2017, 10:54:50 PM »
Yep. It's called the Vatican II effect.

It seems that there are many reasons for the deterioration, and these are problems which the Orthodox in the area are also struggling with. Though based on articles I've seen, for example on the GOA website, the problems aren't isolated to the rust belt.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2017, 01:51:50 AM »
So much for the Francis effect.   :)
Yep. It's called the Vatican II effect.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2017, 01:52:59 PM »
Yep. It's called the Vatican II effect.

It seems that there are many reasons for the deterioration, and these are problems which the Orthodox in the area are also struggling with. Though based on articles I've seen, for example on the GOA website, the problems aren't isolated to the rust belt.

Agreed.  The larger issue is increasing secularism, 'post-Christian' society - all of us in the West live in it.  Christians of all denominations face common struggles on a greater scale beyond the serious theological differences that divide us.

It is a fact that the Rust Belt, along with the Northeast, used to be Catholic strongholds - I mean up to the mid-20th century.  Vatican II, really the spirit of Vatican II, which is what it was on the ground, had a huge impact in these regions.  Changes to the liturgy.  Shift of focus away from 'traditional' Catholicism.  Social justice emphasized; moral doctrine downplayed, neglected, revised, updated.  Clergy, bishops, even laity, who opposed the new trends ostracized.  Liberals packing Church leadership roles, Church institutions, schools, higher education.  This part of the country has been hit about the hardest for the longest time.  Pew clearing.  (scandals, anyone?)

You do also see this in the Protestants:  the emergence of so-called 'non-denominational' Evangelicalism replacing the older more traditional, shall we say 'Calvinist leaning'/fundamentalist' Evangelicalism, which was quite strong up to maybe the 1980s.  I know little about this in the Orthodox Church and various jurisdictions, but my guess is, again, the Northeast/parts of Rust Belt would be a door to modernity, 'openness'.  I don't see how Orthodoxy can resist it completely.  I mean look at what Rod Dreher is saying.  (I am personally looking to Orthodoxy right now as a potentially greener pasture than Catholicism in this regard (this is only one reason; it is also spiritual, change of heart) but my eyes are open.  I think you notice this modernizing, pew clearing trend more in the Catholics and Protestants in the West because of their size relative to Orthodoxy.  The sheer number of people in these Churches creates a sort of natural vulnerability/receptivity to a wide variety of different influences.

In a larger sense, the question for all Christians is what to do about this post-Christian culture.  Do we pull out or stay in, to evangelize or not to evangelize.  Papa Francis is not going be much help I fear; but he is not a bad man.  I don't oppose everything he does by any means.  I'll take the RCC over a lot of what is out there, even in its current dilapidated state.  I still think it is the original, valid Church - as is the Orthodox (please let's not go there - off topic anyway).

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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2017, 04:05:32 PM »
Too much defeatism.
As if the church did not see through way bigger crises before: Persecution to the extent of attempted extinction, arianism, reformation - to name but a few.
Each generation is convinced that the challenges it is facing are unprecedented and things are worse than they ever were. Ridiculous. If it was possible, ask a Christian in 3rd century Rome about hardships. Ask the Egyptian Copts today. Merging dioceses is not the end of the world. It's a sign of decline rather than growth, sure. But do not panic for no good reason and blame Vatican II once more. I am not a big fan either, but to explain a very complex thing with many contributing factors-  which the evaporation of faith in the western hemisphere is - only through it is just plain wrong.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2017, 04:46:35 PM »
I think there is something almost a little tragic about what Francis is up to - trying to push through CDR (AL), mercy mercy mercy - push back the 'rigid' traditionalists; heal the sick, poor, broken-hearted.  There are more days I would care to admit when I agree with him, in intention for sure.  I personally could not care less about CDR in its official very limited set of applications.  I find self-proclaimed traditionalists (not all) can be hair-raisingly cold and rigid - usually for reasons that have nothing to do with actually being a Christian in any meaningful way - i.e., Pharisee.  (why is that observation not 'judgmental'? as an aside - I just said it, but I think it lacks charity - why is ok when the Pope says it, and/or 'liberals') 

For example, everything Francis wants would be 'ok' under Orthodoxy, as I see it.  He could actually be trying to bring about positive change and progress in the Roman Catholic Church.  The tragic part is...this is NOT what will happen with his changes on the ground, in the US, Europe, South America, anywhere really.  The Cardinal Kaspers / Jesuits, etc., of the world will see to that.  What Francis wants and what the Church will get are very different things.  We will get more 'spirit' of Francis, than real Francis.  Because of the already very entrenched liberal, modern views within the Church (bishops/clergy/laity), the changes from Francis will just serve to further fan these flames:  CDR essentially relegates sin to conscience.  This will flourish, with official sanction - as 'mercy' and 'love'.  The new kinder, gentler RCC.  There is no functioning authentic backbone of Catholic doctrine in so much of the Church is so many many places. We will further undermine doctrine and embolden, bless even, liberal, secularizing forces at all levels in the Church.   Francis thinks he is 'medicine' - he is bleeding us, when we were already sick, weak and disoriented, again, within the institution of the Church itself.


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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2017, 05:23:27 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

Is this new for Pittsburgh?  Ohio and Michigan have been doing this since the late 90's.  Lots of schools and smaller Diocese have closed, including some sentimental favorites of mine.  Still; I'm surprised this would be new for Pittsburgh if it's old hat for Toledo, Cleveland, and Detroit.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2017, 05:53:31 PM »
Is this new for Pittsburgh?  Ohio and Michigan have been doing this since the late 90's.  Lots of schools and smaller Diocese have closed, including some sentimental favorites of mine.  Still; I'm surprised this would be new for Pittsburgh if it's old hat for Toledo, Cleveland, and Detroit.

Nah, I grew up in the diocese next door (Altoona-Johnstown), but so far as I can tell it's been happening in both for a while. However, it seems like the slow decline year-over-year, with sporadic mergers when necessary, are about to give way to a huge change (major plans for merging, the expectation that half the priests currently serving will be gone within 8 years, etc.)
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Re: Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2017, 06:13:16 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

Is this new for Pittsburgh?  Ohio and Michigan have been doing this since the late 90's.  Lots of schools and smaller Diocese have closed, including some sentimental favorites of mine.  Still; I'm surprised this would be new for Pittsburgh if it's old hat for Toledo, Cleveland, and Detroit.
The Archdiocese of Detroit went through a major wave of parish consolidations in 1989, and another one about 5-10 years ago. Boston and Chicago did on roughly the same timeline, too. This is a pretty normal occurrence in big cities with declining or changing demographics, and the Catholics have pretty set procedures for how it happens. Parishes are told they're being merged, buildings are deconsecrated and sold, everything that can be moved and repurposed gets sent somewhere else, etc. Most big dioceses have churches and/or warehouses used to store surplus fixtures and the like. It's all pretty swift, bureaucratic, and often quite cold for the old folks and lifetime members who don't want theirs to be the parish being closed.

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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2017, 06:21:46 PM »
Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese mergers to start in 2019

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh plans to merge parishes struggling with declining attendance and finances starting in 2019, the diocese said Friday...

Eighty-six diocesan priests are working past the retirement age of 70 or are planning to retire within five years, and the diocese anticipates the total number of priests serving the region will dip from 211 to 112 by 2025...

Between 1980 and 2015, the number of active Catholics in the Pittsburgh diocese declined by 30 percent. Since 2000, weekly mass attendance has dropped by 40 percent and K-8 Catholic school enrollment by 50 percent...

Is this new for Pittsburgh?  Ohio and Michigan have been doing this since the late 90's.  Lots of schools and smaller Diocese have closed, including some sentimental favorites of mine.  Still; I'm surprised this would be new for Pittsburgh if it's old hat for Toledo, Cleveland, and Detroit.
The Archdiocese of Detroit went through a major wave of parish consolidations in 1989, and another one about 5-10 years ago. Boston and Chicago did on roughly the same timeline, too. This is a pretty normal occurrence in big cities with declining or changing demographics, and the Catholics have pretty set procedures for how it happens. Parishes are told they're being merged, buildings are deconsecrated and sold, everything that can be moved and repurposed gets sent somewhere else, etc. Most big dioceses have churches and/or warehouses used to store surplus fixtures and the like. It's all pretty swift, bureaucratic, and often quite cold for the old folks and lifetime members who don't want theirs to be the parish being closed.

Yeah, I've seen some schools close too.  It's very sad.  But we live in times where younger generations en mass in America aren't really too interested in what's being offered.  I don't know what else can be done when you have masses of people dropping out of something like that. 

That said, I am used to seeing Orthodox Parishes stay open well past their glory days.  In Toledo there are 2 Antiochian Churches, there really should probably only be one anymore (frankly, there should have only been one to begin with... but that's a different story).  Maybe the Orthodox are a naturally more stubborn people.  Certainly, I think we are naturally a lot less bureaucratic than the Catholics!

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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2017, 11:34:11 AM »
While it might be nice to tie this to VII ...it appears to be general...and Orthodoxy is not immune:

http://ocl.org/pew-study-reveals-critical-decline-in-orthodox-religious-membership/