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EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« on: January 01, 2014, 07:02:55 PM »
Good morning Brothers and sisters in faith blessings to you all in Christs name.

I know this may not be a big issues for some of you and may be shunned , but there is a EO YouTuber who seems to be very Anti Armenian and Anti OO . and is causing friction and actually blasphemous in some of his comments .

my theology is not so strong and can't argue with facts and was hoping some of you may be able to spare some time and either have our EO brothers talk to this guy and get him to tone down a bit .

I understand there are differences in theology between the EO and OO teachings , but when it becomes an attack on ones national identity especially for us Armenians who are Chocked by all sides destroyed , looted , killed and yet when have brothers of the same faith sitting idly by and allowing the destruction and defaming of one of the oldest Christian races which still exists till this day after all the wars it has seen , i see this no different as being converted to Islam or beheaded .

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMistAnchorite?feature=watch


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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2014, 07:13:29 PM »
Georgians and Armenians do not get on well with each other. What's so surprising?

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2014, 07:17:06 PM »
I know this guy, he is everywhere on YouTube. I think he is german, or at least german-speaking.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2014, 07:17:17 PM by Ansgar »
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 07:58:59 PM »
Good morning Brothers and sisters in faith blessings to you all in Christs name.

I know this may not be a big issues for some of you and may be shunned , but there is a EO YouTuber who seems to be very Anti Armenian and Anti OO . and is causing friction and actually blasphemous in some of his comments .

my theology is not so strong and can't argue with facts and was hoping some of you may be able to spare some time and either have our EO brothers talk to this guy and get him to tone down a bit .

I understand there are differences in theology between the EO and OO teachings , but when it becomes an attack on ones national identity especially for us Armenians who are Chocked by all sides destroyed , looted , killed and yet when have brothers of the same faith sitting idly by and allowing the destruction and defaming of one of the oldest Christian races which still exists till this day after all the wars it has seen , i see this no different as being converted to Islam or beheaded .

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMistAnchorite?feature=watch


Regards

This guy still calls us Copts Heretics and Monophasite because we dont believe in the Humanity of Christ... LOL

He also called the Patriarch of Alexandria (Greek Orthodox) a Heretic
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2014, 08:03:22 PM »
Good morning Brothers and sisters in faith blessings to you all in Christs name.

I know this may not be a big issues for some of you and may be shunned , but there is a EO YouTuber who seems to be very Anti Armenian and Anti OO . and is causing friction and actually blasphemous in some of his comments .

my theology is not so strong and can't argue with facts and was hoping some of you may be able to spare some time and either have our EO brothers talk to this guy and get him to tone down a bit .

I understand there are differences in theology between the EO and OO teachings , but when it becomes an attack on ones national identity especially for us Armenians who are Chocked by all sides destroyed , looted , killed and yet when have brothers of the same faith sitting idly by and allowing the destruction and defaming of one of the oldest Christian races which still exists till this day after all the wars it has seen , i see this no different as being converted to Islam or beheaded .

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMistAnchorite?feature=watch


Regards

This guy still calls us Copts Heretics and Monophasite because we dont believe in the Humanity of Christ... LOL

He also called the Patriarch of Alexandria (Greek Orthodox) a Heretic

Exactly.  Just another know-it-all clown with a webcam who actually doesn't know much at all.  Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2014, 08:05:00 PM »
I know this guy, he is everywhere on YouTube. I think he is german, or at least german-speaking.
I think he's Romanian. A d although the OO aren't anywhere close to being  an issue in Romania his rhetoric is quite typical of a certain type of zealotry going on there.

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2014, 08:15:08 PM »
I know this guy, he is everywhere on YouTube. I think he is german, or at least german-speaking.
I think he's Romanian. A d although the OO aren't anywhere close to being  an issue in Romania his rhetoric is quite typical of a certain type of zealotry going on there.

Oh, now when you mention it, he did post a video about romanian old calendarists, so you're probably right.
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2014, 08:26:51 PM »
I wouldn't be too bothered by him.  The only people who will give him credibility are those who already think like him.

There is a thread about him somewhere in the private forum, which is where we have our polemical discussions.  I think a couple of years ago, a Copt from OCnet sent him a message that was friendly and Christian in nature, and that caused him to delete a lot of his unfriendly videos.  It seems, though, he's back at it.  Too bad.

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2014, 02:19:24 AM »
It was Copticyouth93 who sent him the message:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,34377.msg553077.html#msg553077


He is still calling Armenians Monophasite lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDRP28ZDbwQ&feature=c4-overview&list=UUb47hrNG6ZjA6N3eMaitLlA


I just posted a reply to him

"The Armenian Orthodox are MiaPhasite not MonoPhasite.

They Believe that Christ is of two natures united in one without mingling confusion or alteration. This is the Orthodox Faith stated by the Apostles, St. Athanasius and St. Cyril of Alexandria.

"‘Considering, therefore, as I said, the manner of His incarnation we see that His two natures came together with each other in an indissoluble union, without blending and without change, for His flesh is flesh and not divinity, even though his flesh became the flesh of God, and likewise the Word also is God and not flesh, even though He made the flesh His own according to the dispensation. Therefore, whenever we have these thoughts in no way do we harm the joining into a unity by saying that he was of two natures, but after the union we do not separate the natures from one another, nor do we cut the one and indivisible Son into two sons but we say that there is one Son, and as the holy Fathers have said, there is one physis () of the Word (of God) made flesh."  St. Cyril of Alexandria

This is the Faith the O.O hold on to. "

Some people just hold on to ignorance but I will still proclaim the truth to them.
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 02:45:11 AM »
He is Romanian. I liked his videos throughout the years and corresponded with him once or twice. Could you indicate what video(s) is bothering you specifically?
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 12:18:59 PM »
A while ago I wrote this user an extensive message explaining both our belief in Christ's complete humanity and that we are not Monophysites. I included textual evidences from our Fathers and liturgical works. If I may say so myself, it was a pretty well-crafted passage. I hit the send button with much anticipation of this user's response, only to realize that my message cannot be sent as I am not on the user's contact list.

There's an hour of my life I won't be getting back... >:(
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2014, 01:28:40 PM »
He is Romanian. I liked his videos throughout the years and corresponded with him once or twice. Could you indicate what video(s) is bothering you specifically?

Reply #9 links to one.

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2014, 01:57:49 PM »
Every time I see "youtuber", I think "You tuber". 
"Do not tempt the Mor thy Mod."

Mor no longer posts on OCNet.  He follows threads, posts his responses daily, occasionally starts threads, and responds to private messages when and as he wants.  But he really isn't around anymore.


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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2014, 02:08:56 PM »
Like I said, it's nothing to get worked up about.  The only people who will give his claims credibility are those who already think like him.

Instead of focusing on negative guys like him, we should be focusing on the positive.

This is a better video to watch:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9VjU_505i6E

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2014, 02:09:36 PM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2014, 03:13:47 PM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

Considering the alternatives, it could be worse. 
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2014, 03:27:28 PM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

Considering the alternatives, it could be worse. 
give the guy a couple of years. he's gonna realize what he missed on.  ;D

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2014, 03:49:19 PM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

Considering the alternatives, it could be worse. 

Searched "Monophysite" on YouTube and I received this "gem"

http://youtu.be/V3yH_TxtoeA

I don't think it could get worse than that...lol!  (WARNING: Best to watch this video if suffering from insomnia.)
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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2014, 04:45:47 PM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

This.

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2014, 07:26:06 PM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

This.

And not everyone who dresses up like a priest or bishop or monk and does youtube videos is legit or knows what they are talking about. If it isn't coming from a website affiliated with one of the canonical Orthodox jurisdictions or one of their institutions, take it with a grain of salt and change the channel. Even that isn't a guarantee of accuracy.

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2014, 12:25:09 AM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

Yeah but people likely get curious and check out our stance because it's the oldest.

I personally care to represent a good image to the nations as God instructs. But if prople hear that Jesus was a God on on earth then it becomes a heresy to all religions. Jesus beoming God in heaven also some doctrine that needs changing as it directly conflicts the bible and is created by man. Hie should be in heaven beside his father.

People might get a sense of Gnostism with our church and most religions consider this heresy. Muslims at a whole consider Christiany a blasphamic, heretical religion that need to comvert to Islam. Those are reasons why. Types like him dont help.
The above post is intended for discussion purposes and is comprised of my personal opinion.

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Re: EO youtuber causing friction amongst OO and EO need help
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2014, 05:25:18 AM »
Who even watches videos of random folks talking about Orthodoxy (or some distortion of it)? If it's a monk/priest or something, then sure, but Random Joe in his bedroom with a camera?

Considering the alternatives, it could be worse. 

Searched "Monophysite" on YouTube and I received this "gem"

http://youtu.be/V3yH_TxtoeA

I don't think it could get worse than that...lol!  (WARNING: Best to watch this video if suffering from insomnia.)


[I love you guys but you are monophasites that are trying to save face to be Orthodox :D - Summary of video pretty much].

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