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You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« on: February 04, 2017, 04:23:11 PM »
You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2017, 05:49:50 PM »
Am usually different from my parents as in my thoughts.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2017, 06:57:21 PM »
That's funny, I've never been indoctrinated by pretzels.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 07:56:56 PM »
You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents.

Sometimes, but you do run into people whose parents were not parental.

Your parents introduce you to concepts. If some of those concepts are wrong or incomplete, you learn that later as you learn that what people know is limited.

To me, my parents are/were saints so I do not have much more to add outside of theoretical thoughts.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 08:35:57 PM »
and/or the Roman Catholic church.
Though they have the B-Movie Catechism to their credit. I'm not sure if he's yet used Attack of the Killer Tomatoes to explain Mary Mediatrix yet, but I'm sure he'll find a way sooner or later.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 10:31:44 PM »
Life would be a lot easier if I wasn't constantly questioning everything and being open minded.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 02:46:23 PM »
Not necessarily true. While my family is non-religious and so was I for most of my life, I obviously went against that mold. I felt something was missing. I just couldn't pinpoint what it was for ages. My family still thinks the whole religiousy thing is odd, but they're not against it or anything for the most part.

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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 03:32:24 PM »
You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents.

This is natural and right, and it's a symptom of our times that it succeeds so rarely.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 07:07:46 PM »
and/or the Roman Catholic church.
Though they have the B-Movie Catechism to their credit. I'm not sure if he's yet used Attack of the Killer Tomatoes to explain Mary Mediatrix yet, but I'm sure he'll find a way sooner or later.

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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 09:25:15 PM »
and/or the Roman Catholic church.
Though they have the B-Movie Catechism to their credit. I'm not sure if he's yet used Attack of the Killer Tomatoes to explain Mary Mediatrix yet, but I'm sure he'll find a way sooner or later.

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I was (and am) not kidding. http://b-moviecat.blogspot.com/
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2017, 09:29:42 PM »
and/or the Roman Catholic church.
Though they have the B-Movie Catechism to their credit. I'm not sure if he's yet used Attack of the Killer Tomatoes to explain Mary Mediatrix yet, but I'm sure he'll find a way sooner or later.

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I was (and am) not kidding. http://b-moviecat.blogspot.com/

Still doesn't make sense.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2017, 09:37:28 PM »
I was inculcated by my parents,  I was inoculated by my doctor,  I was intolerated by my little sister, i was indoctrinated by "the man", man... and i was eviscerated by Zaargox the Destroyer while my body parts were masticated by his pet space worm XRYXGAR , but there wasn't much to eat as my body was emaciated from lack of food from the unexpectedly long space travel, as they didn't supply enough space food that encapsulated.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2017, 06:13:02 AM »
You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents.

This is natural and right, and it's a symptom of our times that it succeeds so rarely.

God forbid we try to teach our children anything.

I'm always confused by people who are up in arms that parents "impose" their religion on their children. If you believe it to be true, what else can you honestly do? It certainly doesn't stop the irreligious from imposing any number of values on their own sons and daughters.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2017, 10:24:19 AM »
Yeah, when parents say, "We don't want to indoctrinate our kids," they mean they prefer that someone else indoctrinate them, e.g. TV, teachers, other kids and other kids' parents, etc.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2017, 03:31:47 PM »

That's not necessarily true.  Often the offspring goes directly against parental teaching.

Besides, as we grow and mature, we make up our own minds.

You parents introduced you perhaps to religion, morals, fresh veggies...but, when you get older you sometimes reject what you were taught as a child.

Often times, college professors have a greater influence on our thinking, than our parents....as we discount our folks, but, professors are held in high esteem.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2017, 04:18:29 PM »
Well and there's a line that it might be good to recognize--the one between teaching one's children one's worldview and indoctrinating one's children to not ever question anything one says.  The latter will likely backfire.  The former, while not guaranteeing an outcome one considers favorable, might at least keep the relationship in tact.  In my view, the whole point is equipping them, not programming them.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2017, 04:24:42 PM »
Of course at some point everyone draws his own conclusions and makes his own decisions, but surrendering one's parental duty to teach is essentially putting one's children under the tutelage of the surrounding culture, with its empty hedonism, vapid ideology, and anti-human stupidity.

My parents, God save them, took this approach and only by the grace and inscrutable providence of God am I a Christian today after many detours.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2017, 04:54:33 PM »
If I were indoctrinated by my parents I wouldn't have set foot in an Orthodox Church, or made a single post on this forum, because I'd have assumed you all were a bunch of religious nutballs who were one gust of wind away from molesting someone or forming a cult or something. I mean, all that time spent thinking about religion, devoting your life to ideas and treating them like your immortal soul depends on them, kissing the hands of strange men (not to mention paintings and gold-covered books), taking new names, taking vows of celibacy by the thousands, treating people like gurus, on and on...? Weirdos!

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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2017, 05:47:45 PM »
 :laugh:  You know, if I asked some of my friends and relatives what they really thought...
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2017, 07:02:48 PM »
... a bunch of religious nutballs who were one gust of wind away from molesting someone or forming a cult or something. ...

Sounds like what some people say about Wesleyans ...
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2017, 12:44:41 AM »
I'd probably be a nominal Spiritist on management school if I'd heard my parents. Not bad, but that's the kind of guy I avoid.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2017, 02:38:00 AM »
I'd probably be a nominal Spiritist on management school if I'd heard my parents. Not bad, but that's the kind of guy I avoid.

Nominal Spiritist? I love this. European Paganism is sillly nerds LARPing anachronisms and Black Metal. You guys have the real thing with all sorts of weird.

I wish my office had Spiritist management level. I'm fairly convinced that our IT-related problems are caused by malicious spirits and the proper kind of management might do the trick.
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2017, 12:21:08 PM »
We are all indoctrinated by the world.

Jesus told Pilate his Kingdom is not of this world.

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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2017, 11:55:53 PM »
I'd probably be a nominal Spiritist on management school if I'd heard my parents. Not bad, but that's the kind of guy I avoid.

Nominal Spiritist? I love this. European Paganism is sillly nerds LARPing anachronisms and Black Metal. You guys have the real thing with all sorts of weird.
My mother and some other parts of the family are Kardecists, it could be more described as magical Christian Positivism than Paganism. It's a characteristically white middle-class watered-down religion, therefore it has a relatively large proportion of Chads and Ashleys. But the "faithful" are mostly nominal, no wonder why their stats range from 2% to 20% of the population.

My father's grandpa was of the Pagan kind at some point, though, and even served as a cambono (a non-priestly function).
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2017, 05:45:06 AM »
I'd probably be a nominal Spiritist on management school if I'd heard my parents. Not bad, but that's the kind of guy I avoid.

Nominal Spiritist? I love this. European Paganism is sillly nerds LARPing anachronisms and Black Metal. You guys have the real thing with all sorts of weird.
My mother and some other parts of the family are Kardecists, it could be more described as magical Christian Positivism than Paganism.

Like Freemasonry or some other form  of Western esotericism?
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Re: You were indoctrinated to think that way by your parents
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2017, 04:12:44 PM »
Yes, Kardecism started as another kind of Western esotericism back in France, specially Positivist, designed as a scientific method to comprehend paranormal phenomena. Nowadays it only exists relevantly in Brazil, given its solidity among intellectuals, followed by the great popularity of some Kardecist mystics here some decades ago, specially Chico Xavier.
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