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Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« on: November 24, 2016, 12:08:54 PM »
Why do they change the time two times in the year, is this necessary and why they do it? Do you agree with this, because I don't.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2016, 12:26:47 PM »
To save energy by making people turn on the lights less.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 12:31:56 PM »
To save energy by making people turn on the lights less.

And how is that supposed to work?

Because from a short-term rise in number of accidents because of concentration loss and shifting clocks there seem to be no other economical effects, especially long-ranged ones.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2016, 12:34:17 PM »
To save energy by making people turn on the lights less.

And how is that supposed to work?

Because from a short-term rise in number of accidents because of concentration loss and shifting clocks there seem to be no other economical effects, especially long-ranged ones.
Ouch, I didn't know that. Personally, I'd hate DST if my work didn't start late and I didn't study at night, waking up before the sun sucks.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2016, 12:37:24 PM »
When I was a kid, I was told that it helped farmers, but I read a couple years ago that helping farmers was a myth.  Supposedly it helps with saving electricity, but the same article questioned that.  I wish we can just pick a time and stick with it rather than change times twice a year.

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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2016, 12:39:47 PM »
To save energy by making people turn on the lights less.

And how is that supposed to work?

Because from a short-term rise in number of accidents because of concentration loss and shifting clocks there seem to be no other economical effects, especially long-ranged ones.

It doesn't work the same for every country, evidently - a lot depends on the climate and daylight hours. In Greece it doesn't matter much, but here it makes massive sense. If we didn't switch, in the summer dawn would be as early as 3am. We don't have enough night-time to start with. On the other hand, now, even a month away from the shortest days, the car's fuel economy has tanked because the lights need to be on both to work and back.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2016, 12:54:51 PM »
Ouch, I didn't know that. Personally, I'd hate DST if my work didn't start late and I didn't study at night, waking up before the sun sucks.

Waking up after the sun worked like 2 weeks for me after the change. And it's get dark around 15.00.

On the other hand, now, even a month away from the shortest days, the car's fuel economy has tanked because the lights need to be on both to work and back.

And here the lights have to be on whole year around.

I do not have preference for any of the shift but I'd like it to stay and do not change.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2016, 01:12:25 PM »
Here sunrise is almost never before 5h30 or after 6h30, like it should be.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2016, 01:14:03 PM »
Here sunrise is almost never before 5h30 or after 6h30, like it should be.

7.00

It would be 8.00 however the sun would set after 16 which would make a great difference.
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2016, 07:51:05 PM »
I'm a huge fan of permanent summer time.

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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2016, 08:31:29 PM »
When I was a kid, I was told that it helped farmers, but I read a couple years ago that helping farmers was a myth.  Supposedly it helps with saving electricity, but the same article questioned that.  I wish we can just pick a time and stick with it rather than change times twice a year.

My grandpa was a farmer, and he never changed the clocks.  Farm stuff happens when farm stuff needs to happen.  They did, however, have to do some crazy maths to keep up with the surrounding towns--some on Central time and some on Eastern.

I don't like it, but I have to interact with people and businesses who change, and I'm too lazy for crazy maths.  I hear Arizona doesn't observe DST, though; I think that's neat. 
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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2016, 08:56:21 PM »
Why do they change the time two times in the year, is this necessary and why they do it? Do you agree with this, because I don't.
It's not.

Plus, UTC should be good enough for everyone  :police:

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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2016, 09:54:44 PM »
I hear Arizona doesn't observe DST, though; I think that's neat.
Neither does Saskatchewan (except for a few towns along the border of neighbouring provinces). I lived there for ten years.

I think we're at the point where we change our clocks just because it's tradition. (And thank goodness it's not Tradition  ;)) I'm ready to stick with one or the other, or maybe a half-hour compromise.

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Re: Why do they change the time two times in the year?
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2016, 12:07:12 AM »
I hear Arizona doesn't observe DST, though; I think that's neat.
Neither does Saskatchewan (except for a few towns along the border of neighbouring provinces). I lived there for ten years.

I think we're at the point where we change our clocks just because it's tradition. (And thank goodness it's not Tradition  ;)) I'm ready to stick with one or the other, or maybe a half-hour compromise.

I agree.  Split the difference and leave it alone already.
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