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Re: Pope Francis Reaches Out To Honor The Man Who Splintered Christianity
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2016, 10:38:02 PM »
There is nothing surprising about any of this at all. "Pope" Francis is a liberal Protestant so it is just as well that he should honour his master Martin Luther.

That's why I would call him Antipope Francis, but apparently we cannot reject the Pope's legitimacy on this forum without breaking the forum rules.

1.  I'm not sure that's an accurate interpretation of the forum rules.   

2.  Why would you, as a returning (?) Orthodox, care about the legitimacy of his election as Pope of Rome?  No one in the Roman Catholic Church seriously contests his election.  He is legitimate for them.

I disagree. I think if you read Roman Catholic canon law, he's illegitimate according to that canon law.

How so?

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He's most certainly illegitimate according to Orthodox canons.

Whether or not that is the case, that wasn't my point. 

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Re: Pope Francis Reaches Out To Honor The Man Who Splintered Christianity
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2016, 10:42:18 PM »
We've been having antipopes for pretty long...

Diego, don't take other people or even yourself too seriously on the internet.  ;)
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Re: Pope Francis Reaches Out To Honor The Man Who Splintered Christianity
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2016, 11:11:37 PM »
Bishop emeritus is a common title. He's the former bishop of the diocese of Rome. So I think Bishop emeritus applies. I was Catholic during the resignation and the title was a little controversial.

Can you be "Bishop of Rome" without being "Pope"?  Anyway, it was the "Cardinal bishop" part that was especially egregious.

You're correct it should have been Cardinal Archbishop.

Still inaccurate.  Pope Emeritus is the best option.

Not inaccurate, He is a Cardinal Archbishop. He is not a pope. I think you are making the papacy more than what it is.

No.  No he is not.
Why not? We refer to other retired cardinals by this title.

The only two living former Cardinals are Pope Emeritus Benedict and Pope Francis.
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Re: Pope Francis Reaches Out To Honor The Man Who Splintered Christianity
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2016, 03:52:16 AM »
Bishop emeritus is a common title. He's the former bishop of the diocese of Rome. So I think Bishop emeritus applies. I was Catholic during the resignation and the title was a little controversial.


Can you be "Bishop of Rome" without being "Pope"?  Anyway, it was the "Cardinal bishop" part that was especially egregious.

You're correct it should have been Cardinal Archbishop.

Still inaccurate.  Pope Emeritus is the best option.

Not inaccurate, He is a Cardinal Archbishop. He is not a pope. I think you are making the papacy more than what it is.

No.  No he is not.
Why not? We refer to other retired cardinals by this title.

The only two living former Cardinals are Pope Emeritus Benedict and Pope Francis.
Ok. I'm just not sure Pope Benedict is not a Cardinal because he became Pope.
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Re: Pope Francis Reaches Out To Honor The Man Who Splintered Christianity
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2016, 04:36:44 AM »
When I said retired Cardinals I meant having resigned from their diocese not retiring from being Cardinals. I now realize I was being unclear. Sorry.

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Re: Pope Francis Reaches Out To Honor The Man Who Splintered Christianity
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2016, 11:00:10 AM »
...... don't take other people or even yourself too seriously on the internet.  ;)

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