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Re: Byzantine secular & post-Byzantine Classical Ottoman music
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2017, 08:15:42 PM »
Are there still Turkish-speaking Orthodox Christians in Turkey or maybe even Greece?
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Re: Byzantine secular & post-Byzantine Classical Ottoman music
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2017, 06:23:50 AM »
Are there still Turkish-speaking Orthodox Christians in Turkey or maybe even Greece?
Not in Turkey, not any more, at least not openly.
The population exchange of 1923 between Greece & Turkey, was based on religion (e.g. Greek speaking Muslims, like the Vallahades -who were in fact monolingual, did not speak a word in Turkish- were considered Turkish, so they were exchanged with the Turkish speaking Orthodox Christians, the Karamanlides, who were considered Greek).
In Greece on the other fact, we do have Turkish speaking, Orthodox Christians. In Western Thrace live a few thousand Gagauz Turks. The majority of the Gagauz in Greece is from Eastern Thrace (now part of European Turkey) who arrived as refugees in 1914 following an Ottoman attempt to forcefully Islamize them.
Gagauz in Greece in a religious festival:
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Re: Byzantine secular & post-Byzantine Classical Ottoman music
« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2017, 08:28:14 AM »
Are there still Turkish-speaking Orthodox Christians in Turkey or maybe even Greece?

In Turkey there are Antiochian Orthodox parishes using at least a bit of Turkish language. Their websites are in Turkish:
http://www.ortodoksluk.org/
http://azizpetrusveazizpavlus.blogspot.com/
http://www.mersinortodoks.com
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Re: Byzantine secular & post-Byzantine Classical Ottoman music
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2017, 06:28:56 AM »
Α traditional tune known as "Aziziés", "Adzidiés" (i.e. the tune of Aziz), or "Sultanís" in Siphnos (i.e. the tune of the Sultan), performed all the way from the northern Aegean islands and the western Anatolian coast, to Cyprus, after the Ottoman Sultan Abdülaziz, in makam Hicâz; the video ends on the tune of the most recognizable variation of all, the "Adzidiés" of Naxos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWYxqHMspiI

"Mesotopian karşılama" (Makam Hicâz) named after "Mesotopos" a town in SW Lesbos, about 50 miles from the island's capital, Mytilene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOHNaITIbg
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Re: Byzantine secular & post-Byzantine Classical Ottoman music
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2017, 08:39:16 AM »
A Zeybekiko of Adramyttion (present-day Edremit), in makam Rast (Byzantine Mode Pl. of 4th):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yMvwC3S1qk

Α Zeybekiko of Mytilene, makam Hicâz (live recording, 1930):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFHvEmHJ830
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