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Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« on: August 06, 2016, 09:53:56 PM »
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A major US study at Penn State University found that Europeans' light skin stems from a gene mutation from a single person who lived 10,000 years ago.

Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin color in Europeans, and the Irish fall into this category.

The Mail Online reports that, in earlier research, Keith Cheng from Penn State College of Medicine reported that one amino acid difference in the gene SLC24A5 is a key contributor to the skin color difference between Europeans and West Africans. This is undoubtedly where the Irish get their light skin from.

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/the-light-skin-of-the-irish-can-be-traced-to-india-and-the-middle-east-239166271-239671671.html

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2016, 10:22:25 PM »
Are you saying races are real?
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2016, 10:28:05 PM »
Are you saying races are real?
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What does what make me? 
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2016, 10:33:59 PM »
It makes you a rassiçt, good sur.

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2016, 10:36:03 PM »
I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2016, 10:47:12 PM »
I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

You are whatever skin colour you identify as.
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2016, 11:08:44 PM »
Being part Irish, this is really fascinating, I'll look into it after Church tomorrow.

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2016, 11:30:55 PM »
I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

You are whatever skin colour you identify as.

My skin colour is awesome. 
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2016, 11:44:12 PM »
India and the Middle East...you can't get any better than that ;)

And we share a common ancestry!  Amen!  Having been to a Malankara Church, I saw the Coptic in many of the people, including parking disorganizations
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2016, 11:47:05 PM »
So if I'm a self-loathing white person, does this allow me to like myself and my culture since I'm something else now?

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2016, 11:47:42 PM »
So if I'm a self-loathing white person, does this allow me to like myself and my culture since I'm something else now?

Lol!

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2016, 11:49:03 PM »
I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

I can't believe someone fell for that. :laugh:
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2016, 12:09:23 AM »
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Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin color in Europeans, and the Irish fall into this category.
I'm glad they felt the need to remind us that Irish are Europeans. After the Brexit vote, you just never know.
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2016, 12:20:18 AM »
I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

I can't believe someone fell for that. :laugh:

I guess I forgot there for a second that you are primarily a troll.

Won't make that mistake that again
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2016, 06:42:27 AM »
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A major US study at Penn State University found that Europeans' light skin stems from a gene mutation from a single person who lived 10,000 years ago.

Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin color in Europeans, and the Irish fall into this category.

The Mail Online reports that, in earlier research, Keith Cheng from Penn State College of Medicine reported that one amino acid difference in the gene SLC24A5 is a key contributor to the skin color difference between Europeans and West Africans. This is undoubtedly where the Irish get their light skin from.

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/the-light-skin-of-the-irish-can-be-traced-to-india-and-the-middle-east-239166271-239671671.html

You're welcome, white people.
  Soo... your saying the original Hindu people were "white"?

Some white nationalists and nazis using this pseudo-science have been trying to tell us this for years.

Congratulations Mor. Lol! ;D
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2016, 06:49:24 AM »
I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

You are whatever skin colour you identify as.
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2016, 06:52:52 AM »
I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

You are whatever skin colour you identify as.

My skin colour is awesome.
Seems you and another particular Eastern Orthodox share the same values; ;D

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2016, 06:57:15 AM »
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Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin color in Europeans, and the Irish fall into this category.
I'm glad they felt the need to remind us that Irish are Europeans. After the Brexit vote, you just never know.
Apparently there was a time when you weren't exactly viewed as "europeans"; ;)

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2016, 07:27:49 AM »
There are many people in this region with very fair skin, the dark population is mostly due to breeding with "sunburned" Caucasians and peoples who got out of África much later than what would become whites and Asians, who were named proto-Australoids before physical anthropology fell into taboo.

So while some Middle Easterns look like this:



There are others looking like this:



Soo... your saying the original Hindu people were "white"?

Some white nationalists and nazis using this pseudo-science have been trying to tell us this for years.

Congratulations Mor. Lol! ;D
Actually, it's widely accepted that Indo-Europeans formerly settled by the Urals accultured and intermixed with indigenous South Asians, creating Indian culture, although Indians themselve vastly deny that because this would mean their dear Hinduism and their dear Sanskrit didn't start in their dear India. But, still, the invaders of Northern India probably didn't look like your average SS propaganda model.
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2016, 10:52:21 AM »
Having been to a Malankara Church, I saw the Coptic in many of the people, including parking disorganizations

I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

You are whatever skin colour you identify as.

My skin colour is awesome.
Seems you and another particular Eastern Orthodox share the same values; ;D



The whole silliness of White Supremacism in a single picture. The guy looks like a Paki by local standards.  There are no White people outside of Scandinavia.
I just need to find out how to say it in Slavonic!

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2016, 11:54:04 AM »
You are whatever skin colour you identify as.

Cool story, bro.

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2016, 12:45:21 PM »
Anyone who thinks they can't change their skin colour should go out in the sunshine more. :P

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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2016, 01:31:46 PM »
Before Trump, there was Snookie, the pride of NJ :P
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2016, 01:33:50 PM »
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You don't want to make your artificial skin tone great again?
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2016, 01:43:25 PM »
(Avoid tanning beds because cancer, and spray tans because Donald Trump.)

You don't want to make your artificial skin tone great again?

Not if it would enable people to call me 'Cheeto-face'. ;D
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2016, 02:58:45 PM »

I guess I forgot there for a second that you are primarily a troll.

Won't make that mistake that again




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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2016, 03:51:43 PM »
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Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin color in Europeans, and the Irish fall into this category.
I'm glad they felt the need to remind us that Irish are Europeans. After the Brexit vote, you just never know.

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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2016, 03:55:18 PM »
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Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin color in Europeans, and the Irish fall into this category.
I'm glad they felt the need to remind us that Irish are Europeans. After the Brexit vote, you just never know.

EU ≠ Europe.
EU ≠ Europe.
EU ≠ Europe.

Write it down 1000 times.

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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2016, 03:56:56 PM »
Aren't Brahmins somewhat white/whiter than other Indians?

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2016, 03:57:24 PM »
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Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin color in Europeans, and the Irish fall into this category.
I'm glad they felt the need to remind us that Irish are Europeans. After the Brexit vote, you just never know.

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EU ≠ Europe.
EU ≠ Europe.

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2016, 04:00:36 PM »
Anyone who thinks they can't change their skin colour should go out in the sunshine more. :P

Would that work for the Borg?  They need some serious tanning time.  :)

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2016, 04:01:28 PM »
Aren't Brahmins somewhat white/whiter than other Indians?
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2016, 04:06:59 PM »
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Aren't Brahmins somewhat white/whiter than other Indians?
Not necessarily. Many Tamil Brahmins are as dark as any other South Indian or Tamil. This priest, officiating Diwali at the White House is from Andhra Pradesh (where Telugu, a Dravidian language like Tamil, is spoken).
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2016, 04:10:05 PM »
Anyone who thinks they can't change their skin colour should go out in the sunshine more. :P

Would that work for the Borg?  They need some serious tanning time.  :)

Lobster red is a colour too. 8)
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2016, 09:28:15 PM »
Having been to a Malankara Church, I saw the Coptic in many of the people, including parking disorganizations

I am pretty sure that pointing out that different skin color exists...which is what this article does....does not make one a racist....

clearly most of us are not the same shades of skin color...regardless of where we might have grown up....heck, I am not even the same skin color as my mother......

You are whatever skin colour you identify as.

My skin colour is awesome.
Seems you and another particular Eastern Orthodox share the same values; ;D



The whole silliness of White Supremacism in a single picture. The guy looks like a Paki by local standards.  There are no White people outside of Scandinavia.
Nah, not quite;

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2016, 11:13:42 PM »
(Avoid tanning beds because cancer, and spray tans because Donald Trump.)

You don't want to make your artificial skin tone great again?

Not if it would enable people to call me 'Cheeto-face'. ;D

First you're having a go at the lilies in the field spray tans, and then the birds CHEETOS®. Does your utter lack of decency know no bounds?
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2016, 07:23:34 AM »
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who were named proto-Australoids before physical anthropology fell into taboo.

I like physical anthropology, unfortunately, it is regarded as racism nowadays.

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2016, 07:26:08 AM »
(Avoid tanning beds because cancer, and spray tans because Donald Trump.)

You don't want to make your artificial skin tone great again?

Not if it would enable people to call me 'Cheeto-face'. ;D

First you're having a go at the lilies in the field spray tans, and then the birds CHEETOS®. Does your utter lack of decency know no bounds?

I love Cheetos. I just don't care to look like them. ;D
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2016, 09:15:04 AM »
Aren't Brahmins somewhat white/whiter than other Indians?
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One could argue that "Hinduism" is just as much Dravidian as Indo-European.
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2016, 09:24:48 AM »
The whole silliness of White Supremacism in a single picture. The guy looks like a Paki by local standards.

True that. He looks like he just swam across the Rio Grande.

  There are no White people outside of Scandinavia.

Finns aren't Nordic. Are they?
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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2016, 10:00:20 AM »
I think finns are part germanic and part uralic, maybe some baltid and some ancient central asian heritage.

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Re: Irish fair skin can be traced to India and the Middle East
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2016, 10:11:46 AM »
  There are no White people outside of Scandinavia.

Finns aren't Nordic. Are they?

That's how we tend to identify ourselves and I can't think of any other reference group either for a Lutheran semi-Socialist and generic welfare state located in Northern Europe. We might have turned Baltic had the the Soviet Union conquered us  but became only finlandized instead. Some (Norwegians?) seem to think that there is a difference between Scandinavian and Nordic and that Finns are the latter not the former.

I think finns are part germanic and part uralic, maybe some baltid and some ancient central asian heritage.

Uhm...no. That's how it was perceived maybe in the 19th and early 20th century. Linguistically Fenno-Ugric (with exception of Swedish-speaking minority which used to be the elite, btw) and genetically *gasp* mixed.
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