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BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« on: July 01, 2016, 07:06:32 PM »
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Gunmen have stormed a popular cafe in the diplomatic area of the Bangladeshi capital, Dhaka, taking a number of hostages, officials say.

Several foreigners are among those being held by eight or nine armed men in the Holey Artisan Bakery cafe in the city's Gulshan district, they add.

Two police officers have been killed in a gun battle, a spokesman said, and about 30 others injured.

So-called Islamic State (IS) has said it carried out the attack.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36687616

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 07:55:45 PM »
Lord have mercy, why bring race into it? We should pray for all people, even those who attack innocent people.

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 08:06:19 PM »
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Gunmen have stormed a popular cafe in the diplomatic area of the Bangladeshi capital, Dhaka, taking a number of hostages, officials say.

Several foreigners are among those being held by eight or nine armed men in the Holey Artisan Bakery cafe in the city's Gulshan district, they add.

Two police officers have been killed in a gun battle, a spokesman said, and about 30 others injured.

So-called Islamic State (IS) has said it carried out the attack.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36687616

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2016, 08:10:13 PM »
Lord have mercy, why bring race into it?

When Paris and Orlando happened, CNN covered it constantly, both as it was happening and after the immediate event ended, and did so for days and weeks.  The situation in Dhaka is ongoing as of this writing, and CNN is showing an episode of "Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown" taking place in Scotland.

To be fair, CNN isn't alone.   
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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2016, 08:11:20 PM »
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Gunmen have stormed a popular cafe in the diplomatic area of the Bangladeshi capital, Dhaka, taking a number of hostages, officials say.

Several foreigners are among those being held by eight or nine armed men in the Holey Artisan Bakery cafe in the city's Gulshan district, they add.

Two police officers have been killed in a gun battle, a spokesman said, and about 30 others injured.

So-called Islamic State (IS) has said it carried out the attack.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36687616

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2016, 08:13:38 PM »
Lord have mercy, why bring race into it?

When Paris and Orlando happened, CNN covered it constantly, both as it was happening and after the immediate event ended, and did so for days and weeks.  The situation in Dhaka is ongoing as of this writing, and CNN is showing an episode of "Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown" taking place in Scotland.

To be fair, CNN isn't alone.   

That truly sad on CNN part, however if these were a bunch of Homosexuals held hostage in Bangladesh, the media would be over it, like they did in Orlando, or if Bangladesh was at the heart of some modern secularist revolution like Paris. The media does have it pet causes after all.
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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2016, 08:14:00 PM »
Lord have mercy, why bring race into it?

When Paris and Orlando happened, CNN covered it constantly, both as it was happening and after the immediate event ended, and did so for days and weeks.  The situation in Dhaka is ongoing as of this writing, and CNN is showing an episode of "Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown" taking place in Scotland.

To be fair, CNN isn't alone.   

Mor has a point.

And its also on the heels of 'Everyone dislikes Turkey' Istambul 'lack of response' campaign..

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2016, 08:25:46 PM »
Lord have mercy, why bring race into it?

When Paris and Orlando happened, CNN covered it constantly, both as it was happening and after the immediate event ended, and did so for days and weeks.  The situation in Dhaka is ongoing as of this writing, and CNN is showing an episode of "Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown" taking place in Scotland.

To be fair, CNN isn't alone.   

That truly sad on CNN part, however if these were a bunch of Homosexuals held hostage in Bangladesh, the media would be over it, like they did in Orlando, or if Bangladesh was at the heart of some modern secularist revolution like Paris. The media does have it pet causes after all.

Oh for pity's sake.

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2016, 01:52:52 AM »
I'm watching CNN and it's all that's being broadcast, in between commercials for mattress sales.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2016, 01:58:54 AM »
Worst thing for that part of the world, the creation of "Pakistan" then later "Bangladesh", the Indians should of held onto both.

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2016, 02:02:26 AM »
When the attack in Turkey took place a few days ago, CNN continued for two days covering the news and Twitter filled with #Istanbul.

As for Bangladesh, sorry but the country allowed extremists to flourish and stood doing nothing while they are killing all kinds of people. Just a day ago a Hindu clergy was killed while he was preparing for morning prayer. It is sad what happened and I pray for the souls of the victims, but the country brought this on itself. Muslims need to learn that they CAN NOT sit and do nothing when extremists kill others and then act all surprised when it comes back and bite them.

I'm sure the majority of Muslims do not support extremism, and there are large numbers of Muslim leaders that spoke against extremists, but they really need to be louder, they need to be stronger and brave and not give up as soon as they're threatened. Like what the Supreme Court of Bangladesh did when it came to the issue of the State's secularism a month ago. The Court backed away out of fear of the fundamentalists.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2016, 02:11:26 AM »
When the attack in Turkey took place a few days ago, CNN continued for two days covering the news and Twitter filled with #Istanbul.

As for Bangladesh, sorry but the country allowed extremists to flourish and stood doing nothing while they are killing all kinds of people. Just a day ago a Hindu clergy was killed while he was preparing for morning prayer. It is sad what happened and I pray for the souls of the victims, but the country brought this on itself. Muslims need to learn that they CAN NOT sit and do nothing when extremists kill others and then act all surprised when it comes back and bite them.

Something we can agree on! I was reading up on the recent history of Bangladesh, and it seems to have a fundamentalism problem, that authorities turned a blind eye too, Shiites been targeted, Hindus slaughtered in riots, Buddhists killed, and Christians killed. I read basically in the past, the military coup that took over approved Political Islam in Bangladesh, the place sounds like a mini Pakistan, thankfully without nukes.

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2016, 04:50:02 AM »

I'm sure the majority of Muslims do not support extremism,

What's "extremism"?
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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2016, 10:18:37 AM »
I'm watching CNN and it's all that's being broadcast, in between commercials for mattress sales.

Yeah, I saw that too.  They must've switched over to news once most viewers went to bed. 
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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2016, 10:21:52 AM »
As for Bangladesh, sorry but the country allowed extremists to flourish and stood doing nothing while they are killing all kinds of people. Just a day ago a Hindu clergy was killed while he was preparing for morning prayer. It is sad what happened and I pray for the souls of the victims, but the country brought this on itself. Muslims need to learn that they CAN NOT sit and do nothing when extremists kill others and then act all surprised when it comes back and bite them.

I'll remember to apply this reasoning at an appropriate time. 

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I'm sure the majority of Muslims do not support extremism, and there are large numbers of Muslim leaders that spoke against extremists, but they really need to be louder, they need to be stronger and brave and not give up as soon as they're threatened. Like what the Supreme Court of Bangladesh did when it came to the issue of the State's secularism a month ago. The Court backed away out of fear of the fundamentalists.

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2016, 11:28:30 AM »
I'm watching CNN and it's all that's being broadcast, in between commercials for mattress sales.

Yeah, I saw that too.  They must've switched over to news once most viewers went to bed.

To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on.  CNN is bad about that.  At least with Fox News, you have that ticker underneath going at all times.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2016, 11:49:26 AM »
To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on. 

Yeah, unless something bad happens in Europe or the US. 

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2016, 12:13:52 PM »
To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on. 

Yeah, unless something bad happens in Europe or the US.

Really brown foreign people is not newsworthy.  I want to know Bourdain's opinions on brown people's food.
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2016, 12:16:03 PM »
To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on. 

Yeah, unless something bad happens in Europe or the US.

Really brown foreign people is not newsworthy.  I want to know Bourdain's opinions on brown people's food.

That's the best part.  Bourdain was in Scotland and Russia. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2016, 12:17:03 PM »
People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2016, 12:19:32 PM »
To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on. 

Yeah, unless something bad happens in Europe or the US.

Really brown foreign people is not newsworthy.  I want to know Bourdain's opinions on brown people's food.

That's the best part.  Bourdain was in Scotland and Russia.

No Reservations was a better show.  This new CNN one sucks.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2016, 12:20:55 PM »
To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on. 

Yeah, unless something bad happens in Europe or the US.

Really brown foreign people is not newsworthy.  I want to know Bourdain's opinions on brown people's food.

That's the best part.  Bourdain was in Scotland and Russia.

Why is Anthony Bourdain even on CNN anyways? Isn't CNN news?

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2016, 12:23:57 PM »
People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

Thanks for your encouragement.  I'm brown, but I'm trying. 
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People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

Yes that a true point Cyrillic

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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2016, 12:31:56 PM »
To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on. 

Yeah, unless something bad happens in Europe or the US.

Really brown foreign people is not newsworthy.  I want to know Bourdain's opinions on brown people's food.

That's the best part.  Bourdain was in Scotland and Russia.

Why is Anthony Bourdain even on CNN anyways? Isn't CNN news?

There is news on CNN; not just news.  His new show is call Parts Unknown.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2016, 12:33:03 PM »
People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

Thanks for your encouragement.  I'm brown, but I'm trying.

Don't give yourself a micro-aggression!  You need to write "I'm proudly brown AND I'm trying!  That's what matters!"
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2016, 12:43:52 PM »
People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

Thanks for your encouragement.  I'm brown, but I'm trying.

Don't give yourself a micro-aggression!  You need to write "I'm proudly brown AND I'm trying!  That's what matters!"

If I'm oppressing myself as a favour to others, it's really bad...
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People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

Thanks for your encouragement. I'm brown, but I'm trying.

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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2016, 01:18:28 PM »
To be fair, most news networks keep whatever programming is going on. 

Yeah, unless something bad happens in Europe or the US.

Really brown foreign people is not newsworthy.  I want to know Bourdain's opinions on brown people's food.

That's the best part.  Bourdain was in Scotland and Russia.

Why is Anthony Bourdain even on CNN anyways? Isn't CNN news?

Probably a good thing if the cable news channels get away from 24-hour news. That cycle has tended to compel them to manufacture all sorts of yellow journalism as they try to have anything to attract viewers for hundreds of hours a week.
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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2016, 02:35:16 PM »
People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

I agree with you! This is actually some type of "psychological" thing. People in Paris for example, can not really relate to something that happens in Pakistan because the culture, society and even the environment and way of life are different, it takes an effort to relate to what happens there. It is the same in the Middle East, whenever something bad happened in Asia, we couldn't really care that much because we are very different.

Sorry Mor, but I think you are wrong in thinking that it has something to do with race. In the Middle East, whenever something really bad happened in a country far far away, say Japan, the news coverage was very low to almost nothing, until BBC Arabic came up which helped us be less self-centred.


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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2016, 02:40:24 PM »
As for Bangladesh, sorry but the country allowed extremists to flourish and stood doing nothing while they are killing all kinds of people. Just a day ago a Hindu clergy was killed while he was preparing for morning prayer. It is sad what happened and I pray for the souls of the victims, but the country brought this on itself. Muslims need to learn that they CAN NOT sit and do nothing when extremists kill others and then act all surprised when it comes back and bite them.

I'll remember to apply this reasoning at an appropriate time. 

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I'm sure the majority of Muslims do not support extremism, and there are large numbers of Muslim leaders that spoke against extremists, but they really need to be louder, they need to be stronger and brave and not give up as soon as they're threatened. Like what the Supreme Court of Bangladesh did when it came to the issue of the State's secularism a month ago. The Court backed away out of fear of the fundamentalists.

#refugees, #immigrants

Oh yeah, because people fleeing from war is the same as the Supreme Court of Bangladesh being scared away by fundamentalists. Come on Mor, you're smarter than this. If your family is threatened, your house is destroyed and you have to eat grass to live, I think at that point, nobody will blame you for running away. As for your note about immigrants, I believe you're an immigrant too, maybe not first generation immigrant, but probably the son of immigrants, so we are in the same boat, my friend ;)
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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2016, 03:29:21 PM »
Sorry Mor, but I think you are wrong in thinking that it has something to do with race.

You are entitled to that opinion. 

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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2016, 03:30:28 PM »
People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

Thanks for your encouragement.  I'm brown, but I'm trying.

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If I'm oppressing myself as a favour to others, it's really bad...

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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2016, 03:41:23 PM »
As for Bangladesh, sorry but the country allowed extremists to flourish and stood doing nothing while they are killing all kinds of people. Just a day ago a Hindu clergy was killed while he was preparing for morning prayer. It is sad what happened and I pray for the souls of the victims, but the country brought this on itself. Muslims need to learn that they CAN NOT sit and do nothing when extremists kill others and then act all surprised when it comes back and bite them.

I'll remember to apply this reasoning at an appropriate time. 

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I'm sure the majority of Muslims do not support extremism, and there are large numbers of Muslim leaders that spoke against extremists, but they really need to be louder, they need to be stronger and brave and not give up as soon as they're threatened. Like what the Supreme Court of Bangladesh did when it came to the issue of the State's secularism a month ago. The Court backed away out of fear of the fundamentalists.

#refugees, #immigrants

Oh yeah, because people fleeing from war is the same as the Supreme Court of Bangladesh being scared away by fundamentalists.

Like I said, I will remember this logic (i.e., "they brought this on themselves") and apply it at an appropriate time. 

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Come on Mor, you're smarter than this. If your family is threatened, your house is destroyed and you have to eat grass to live, I think at that point, nobody will blame you for running away.

"They need to be stronger and brave, and not give up as soon as they're threatened."

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As for your note about immigrants, I believe you're an immigrant too, maybe not first generation immigrant, but probably the son of immigrants, so we are in the same boat, my friend ;)

My family left their country for better economic opportunities abroad, not dire poverty due to largely self-created violence.
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Re: BBC - Gunmen take hostages in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2016, 03:42:13 PM »
People tend to sympathize with those they can relate to ("It could have been me!"). Westerners relate more to other westerners. Congratulations for coming to this obvious conclusion.

Thanks for your encouragement.  I'm brown, but I'm trying.

Don't give yourself a micro-aggression!  You need to write "I'm proudly brown AND I'm trying!  That's what matters!"

If I'm oppressing myself as a favour to others, it's really bad...

If I ever meet you, I will get you a cup of coffee and a autographed photo of Rachel.

Oh man, I'd love you forever!
I think you can say ~ In the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and post with charitable and prayerful intentions.