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I don't know why I live
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:57:24 PM »
I feel my life's worth is insignificant towards nothing. I don't see why I live. I am ugly, I am weak, I have no talent, I have no friends, no girlfriend, I am sinner, I come from a bad country, my life is nothing compared to those whom I am surrounded with and people of my age and a lot of younger people. I don't have their experience, and I have done nothing compared to them in this life, I don't have any joys, life, memories, talents, etc. I have been on a "dark night" since I am an adult, and I started thinking what am I doing here where I am. I am the least of all, everybody hates me, I am unattractive to ugly(so I already start with a minus in society), I come from a country with a very bad name(in the media and etc), I am very sinner, life doesn't really happen to me, it is just something boring like work home, home work, I am fruitless even in the circumstances where I am and what I am trying to do, and I am life sick.  I really don't see any reason for being where I am and feel like I am only unto worse and probably should be dead and whipped from every form of existence that ever there was. What CRIME did I do unto the sky to deserve all this? What worth and purpose does my life really have? I have kept saying to myself it has one and all this things, but I only feel I am deceiving and lying to myself. Why do I live? What is a man's worth?
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2014, 03:03:13 PM »
Sounds like Nietzsche's description of the "last man"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_man
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2014, 03:08:58 PM »
I'm sorry I don't have anything particularly encouraging to say except that many of us have felt the same way and many of us have found that it's not true. Having those feelings doesn't make you a bad person nor does it diminish you in the eyes of God. Nothing we do can do that.  :)

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2014, 03:17:35 PM »
I'm sorry I don't have anything particularly encouraging to say except that many of us have felt the same way and many of us have found that it's not true. Having those feelings doesn't make you a bad person nor does it diminish you in the eyes of God. Nothing we do can do that.  :)

So how is the worth of one measured? Why does one live for?

Well... I don't really believe in God in that way.. Like "not in this world but the kingdom to come" way I mean.
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2014, 03:44:24 PM »
I'm sorry I don't have anything particularly encouraging to say except that many of us have felt the same way and many of us have found that it's not true. Having those feelings doesn't make you a bad person nor does it diminish you in the eyes of God. Nothing we do can do that.  :)

So how is the worth of one measured? Why does one live for?

Well... I don't really believe in God in that way.. Like "not in this world but the kingdom to come" way I mean.



I don't know the answers to those questions. I do know that things change and that probably more often than not we don't understand the effect we have on others.

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2014, 03:50:28 PM »
I will pray for you.

Have you ever chanted the Paracleisis to the Most Holy Theotokos? Our Lady, the Theotokos, is always quick to hear those who honor her. Listen to it below.

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2014, 03:51:36 PM »
Because you are exactly the kind of person the Lord is looking for.  

That's why.  

You can't take any credit for yourself.  :)  And He loves that in people.  What a gift.

I can't wait to see His work in you because I KNOW it's going to be wonderful.  

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2014, 03:57:01 PM »
Because you are exactly the kind of person the Lord is looking for.  

That's why.  

You can't take any credit for yourself.  :)  And He loves that in people.  What a gift.

I can't wait to see His work in you because I KNOW it's going to be wonderful.  



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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2014, 04:32:41 PM »
Do not despair.  Your worth as much as the people who value you.  And people are valued infinitely by God.  Thus you are quite valuable not just in God's eyes, but in our eyes as well. You are the most important person here because God thinks so.  In this I believe, you will find your purpose.
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2014, 04:36:19 PM »
According to Fr. Alexander Schmemann's For the Life of the World, man is created to praise, worship, and glorify God as priest, prophet, and king.

We are to glorify God in our bodies. This is the purpose of our existence and will be the reason for our eternal life in Paradise where we will continue to worship God forever.

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2014, 04:36:47 PM »
Lord have mercy.

It may help you to go to Confession.

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2014, 04:57:49 PM »
Do not despair.  Your worth as much as the people who value you.  And people are valued infinitely by God.  Thus you are quite valuable not just in God's eyes, but in our eyes as well. You are the most important person here because God thinks so.  In this I believe, you will find your purpose.

people don't value me.
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2014, 05:03:32 PM »
Do not despair.  Your worth as much as the people who value you.  And people are valued infinitely by God.  Thus you are quite valuable not just in God's eyes, but in our eyes as well. You are the most important person here because God thinks so.  In this I believe, you will find your purpose.

people don't value me.
We are people here despite only seeing words on a screen than actual faces.  Any true believer in God would value you in the highest manner.
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2014, 05:14:48 PM »
Do not despair.  Your worth as much as the people who value you.  And people are valued infinitely by God.  Thus you are quite valuable not just in God's eyes, but in our eyes as well. You are the most important person here because God thinks so.  In this I believe, you will find your purpose.

people don't value me.
We are people here despite only seeing words on a screen than actual faces.  Any true believer in God would value you in the highest manner.

I don't think so. And I am mostly an atheist (agnostic/atheistic). So what are you talking about?
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2014, 05:19:00 PM »
Do not despair.  Your worth as much as the people who value you.  And people are valued infinitely by God.  Thus you are quite valuable not just in God's eyes, but in our eyes as well. You are the most important person here because God thinks so.  In this I believe, you will find your purpose.

people don't value me.
We are people here despite only seeing words on a screen than actual faces.  Any true believer in God would value you in the highest manner.

I don't think so. And I am mostly an atheist (agnostic/atheistic). So what are you talking about?


They don't mean that you have to be a believer but that there are people who see value in you that you probably don't even realize.

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2014, 05:22:56 PM »
Do not despair.  Your worth as much as the people who value you.  And people are valued infinitely by God.  Thus you are quite valuable not just in God's eyes, but in our eyes as well. You are the most important person here because God thinks so.  In this I believe, you will find your purpose.

people don't value me.
We are people here despite only seeing words on a screen than actual faces.  Any true believer in God would value you in the highest manner.

I don't think so. And I am mostly an atheist (agnostic/atheistic). So what are you talking about?
we value "almost atheists" too!
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2014, 05:34:27 PM »
If I worth something why doesn't life give me what I worth
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2014, 06:31:48 PM »
If I worth something why doesn't life give me what I worth

Christ died on the Cross for you and for all of us. That God died for us sinners should show you how much God loves you.

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2014, 06:41:48 PM »
Why do you think you deserve something exactly?
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2014, 07:20:33 PM »
Why do you think you deserve something exactly?

Cause assumingly everyone does or no one.
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2014, 07:27:45 PM »
Why does everyone deserve something rather than nothing exactly?
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2014, 07:50:49 PM »
Why does everyone deserve something rather than nothing exactly?

Assuming the theistic position that God is benevolent. If not they don't.
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2014, 10:20:57 PM »
Why does everyone deserve something rather than nothing exactly?

Assuming the theistic position that God is benevolent. If not they don't.

So what's the ultimate thing God should give you exactly?
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2014, 04:23:16 AM »
Why does everyone deserve something rather than nothing exactly?

Assuming the theistic position that God is benevolent. If not they don't.

So what's the ultimate thing God should give you exactly?

GET OUT!
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2014, 04:31:00 AM »
Why does everyone deserve something rather than nothing exactly?

Assuming the theistic position that God is benevolent. If not they don't.

So what's the ultimate thing God should give you exactly?

GET OUT!

Why do you keep shouting "GET OUT!" ?  ???
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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2014, 04:50:35 AM »
Why does everyone deserve something rather than nothing exactly?

Assuming the theistic position that God is benevolent. If not they don't.

So what's the ultimate thing God should give you exactly?

GET OUT!

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2014, 06:05:01 AM »
I feel my life's worth is insignificant towards nothing. I don't see why I live. I am ugly, I am weak, I have no talent, I have no friends, no girlfriend, I am sinner, I come from a bad country, my life is nothing compared to those whom I am surrounded with and people of my age and a lot of younger people. I don't have their experience, and I have done nothing compared to them in this life, I don't have any joys, life, memories, talents, etc. I have been on a "dark night" since I am an adult, and I started thinking what am I doing here where I am. I am the least of all, everybody hates me, I am unattractive to ugly(so I already start with a minus in society), I come from a country with a very bad name(in the media and etc), I am very sinner, life doesn't really happen to me, it is just something boring like work home, home work, I am fruitless even in the circumstances where I am and what I am trying to do, and I am life sick.  I really don't see any reason for being where I am and feel like I am only unto worse and probably should be dead and whipped from every form of existence that ever there was. What CRIME did I do unto the sky to deserve all this? What worth and purpose does my life really have? I have kept saying to myself it has one and all this things, but I only feel I am deceiving and lying to myself. Why do I live? What is a man's worth?

You will find a sense in your life.

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Re: I don't know why I live
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2014, 12:07:24 PM »
Why does everyone deserve something rather than nothing exactly?

Assuming the theistic position that God is benevolent. If not they don't.

So what's the ultimate thing God should give you exactly?

GET OUT!

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.




What are you talking about?