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New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« on: May 20, 2016, 11:37:33 PM »
Teaser trailer.

Bryan Fuller, the man behind NBC's Hannibal and a writer on both DS9 and Voyager, is going to be showrunner alongside Alex Kurtzman.

While the presence of Kurtzman* makes it difficult for me to share Kayti Burt's hope that this will be return to something more akin to the TV series than the Abramsverse (though Kurtzman does, at least, appear to acknowledge that they need to get back to the show's roots).

Though, when I look back over the episodes that Fuller did the stories for, I find more episodes that I recall liking than not (Mortal Coil, Gravity, Bride of Chaotica, Empok Nor, Living Witness, Fury...) though I notice most of his stories were done with the help of others and of course I don't think he ever did the teleplays themselves, so it still gives me pause. Though with Hannibal, Fuller has shown himself pretty good at surpassing expectation for good or ill, so who knows?

What do you think?







*Not that I absolutely loathe the Abramsverse like wgw seems to, mind. Though, I liked the first one a lot better than I did Into Darkness and I agree that they follow the "dumb action movie mold" more than the best of the TV episodes did.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2016, 12:02:16 AM »
This. Is. Awesome.

The only thing that could make this more excellent is if they decided to bring back Jean Luc Picard.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 07:39:55 PM »
Now delayed indefinitely I've heard? I mean, they're filming, so I assume it isn't on the cusp of being canceled...
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 10:40:52 AM »
I'm still waiting. :)
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 10:45:06 AM »
If it's going to be an extension of the Abrams schlock then it's probably better off not getting off the ground.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 11:07:01 AM »
Now delayed indefinitely I've heard? I mean, they're filming, so I assume it isn't on the cusp of being canceled...

Scheduling conflict with TWD, I hear.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 12:45:46 PM »
If it's going to be an extension of the Abrams schlock then it's probably better off not getting off the ground.

I enjoyed the Abrams movies.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 04:20:43 PM »
As far as I remember Abrams isn't involved, and it takes place in the standard/old timeline. I think it's set at a time just shortly before TOS. It's also on CBS all access or whatever it's called.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2017, 01:40:30 PM »
I saw a seemingly legit video showing a new Klingon ship design (to go with the new Klingons themselves). Meh. I am getting more and more pessimistic about this. I didn't want to believe that Fuller gave up being showrunner because the higher-ups were forcing all sorts of trash onto them, but as more details leak out that does seem to be the reality. People are using words like 'soft reboot,' and I'm not even opposed to that if done well. Roddenberry and ST writers never focused on some strict canon that had to be kept, and certain parts of Trek have long been a confused mess. But all this stuff? Ugh.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2017, 02:47:11 PM »
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2017, 03:18:31 PM »
I saw a seemingly legit video showing a new Klingon ship design (to go with the new Klingons themselves). Meh. I am getting more and more pessimistic about this. I didn't want to believe that Fuller gave up being showrunner because the higher-ups were forcing all sorts of trash onto them, but as more details leak out that does seem to be the reality. People are using words like 'soft reboot,' and I'm not even opposed to that if done well. Roddenberry and ST writers never focused on some strict canon that had to be kept, and certain parts of Trek have long been a confused mess. But all this stuff? Ugh.

I feel the same way about how the new series appears to be going. 

I think the Trek canon became more of a thing as time progressed, and was clearly in the minds of writers after TNG.  The weight of it can be daunting, I'm sure; but anyone who wades into these waters should be aware of that.  The rumors about CBS's top-down approach to control of the new series, along with the speculation about it being a far departure from the original timeline (and even potentially different than the Abrams movies timeline) don't inspire much confidence in me.  I waded through Enterprise almost as an obligation, and found some parts to be good (and others tiring, including the finale), but if the new one comes out and is a pile of garbage, it won't get me past a second episode (if that).
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2017, 04:30:36 PM »
I saw a seemingly legit video showing a new Klingon ship design (to go with the new Klingons themselves). Meh. I am getting more and more pessimistic about this. I didn't want to believe that Fuller gave up being showrunner because the higher-ups were forcing all sorts of trash onto them, but as more details leak out that does seem to be the reality. People are using words like 'soft reboot,' and I'm not even opposed to that if done well. Roddenberry and ST writers never focused on some strict canon that had to be kept, and certain parts of Trek have long been a confused mess. But all this stuff? Ugh.
Changing Klingons again and new Klingon ship design and who knows what else makes me wonder if the series will be worth it.

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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2017, 06:41:29 PM »
I saw a seemingly legit video showing a new Klingon ship design (to go with the new Klingons themselves). Meh. I am getting more and more pessimistic about this. I didn't want to believe that Fuller gave up being showrunner because the higher-ups were forcing all sorts of trash onto them, but as more details leak out that does seem to be the reality. People are using words like 'soft reboot,' and I'm not even opposed to that if done well. Roddenberry and ST writers never focused on some strict canon that had to be kept, and certain parts of Trek have long been a confused mess. But all this stuff? Ugh.

I know Roddenberry was very focused on canon, as it applied to his utopian vision of the future of humankind .
I have read many books that said that his vision of the future was his guiding principle.

He was Inspired by science fiction greats such as Issac Asimov and H.G.Wells.
They both had a solid foundation of principle, along with the fantasy.
Asimov wrote the basis for Data later being accepted as a real officer in the Federation, and not just an assemblage of parts.

That was all Roddenberry .
He was inspired by Asimov canon of laws regarding robots.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2017, 06:49:27 PM »
I saw a seemingly legit video showing a new Klingon ship design (to go with the new Klingons themselves). Meh. I am getting more and more pessimistic about this. I didn't want to believe that Fuller gave up being showrunner because the higher-ups were forcing all sorts of trash onto them, but as more details leak out that does seem to be the reality. People are using words like 'soft reboot,' and I'm not even opposed to that if done well. Roddenberry and ST writers never focused on some strict canon that had to be kept, and certain parts of Trek have long been a confused mess. But all this stuff? Ugh.
Changing Klingons again and new Klingon ship design and who knows what else makes me wonder if the series will be worth it.

They already tried a lot of gymnastics to bridge the gap between the Klingons of TOS and TNG in Enterprise; if they're changed again, it's a clear break with any reality that currently exists in ST (and, IMO, is a big mistake).
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2017, 07:14:04 PM »
I saw a seemingly legit video showing a new Klingon ship design (to go with the new Klingons themselves). Meh. I am getting more and more pessimistic about this. I didn't want to believe that Fuller gave up being showrunner because the higher-ups were forcing all sorts of trash onto them, but as more details leak out that does seem to be the reality. People are using words like 'soft reboot,' and I'm not even opposed to that if done well. Roddenberry and ST writers never focused on some strict canon that had to be kept, and certain parts of Trek have long been a confused mess. But all this stuff? Ugh.

I know Roddenberry was very focused on canon, as it applied to his utopian vision of the future of humankind .
I have read many books that said that his vision of the future was his guiding principle.

He was Inspired by science fiction greats such as Issac Asimov and H.G.Wells.
They both had a solid foundation of principle, along with the fantasy.
Asimov wrote the basis for Data later being accepted as a real officer in the Federation, and not just an assemblage of parts.

That was all Roddenberry .
He was inspired by Asimov canon of laws regarding robots.

I think the Roddenberry thing is, tbh, a bit romanticized. For example in the original series even the most level-headed, like Spock, sometimes had a 'cowboy diplomacy' mentality, shooting first and leaving questions for later; a "western in space" would be pretty boring without some action sequences, after all. I think the "positive vision for the future" Gene supposedly had, along with goody-two-shoes schtick of TNG, has been read back into TOS to some degree. Although, by 'canon' I meant not so much large themes, but moreso details of who was where in the galaxy, when this or that happened, how entire species acted or looked, or character quirks or motivations (one I have mentioned before is how, in later TNG episodes, the idea that Data can't use contractions is made into a significant plot point... despite Data using contractions in the first season).
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2017, 12:15:34 AM »
I saw a seemingly legit video showing a new Klingon ship design (to go with the new Klingons themselves). Meh. I am getting more and more pessimistic about this. I didn't want to believe that Fuller gave up being showrunner because the higher-ups were forcing all sorts of trash onto them, but as more details leak out that does seem to be the reality. People are using words like 'soft reboot,' and I'm not even opposed to that if done well. Roddenberry and ST writers never focused on some strict canon that had to be kept, and certain parts of Trek have long been a confused mess. But all this stuff? Ugh.

I know Roddenberry was very focused on canon, as it applied to his utopian vision of the future of humankind .
I have read many books that said that his vision of the future was his guiding principle.

He was Inspired by science fiction greats such as Issac Asimov and H.G.Wells.
They both had a solid foundation of principle, along with the fantasy.
Asimov wrote the basis for Data later being accepted as a real officer in the Federation, and not just an assemblage of parts.

That was all Roddenberry .
He was inspired by Asimov canon of laws regarding robots.

I think the Roddenberry thing is, tbh, a bit romanticized. For example in the original series even the most level-headed, like Spock, sometimes had a 'cowboy diplomacy' mentality, shooting first and leaving questions for later; a "western in space" would be pretty boring without some action sequences, after all. I think the "positive vision for the future" Gene supposedly had, along with goody-two-shoes schtick of TNG, has been read back into TOS to some degree. Although, by 'canon' I meant not so much large themes, but moreso details of who was where in the galaxy, when this or that happened, how entire species acted or looked, or character quirks or motivations (one I have mentioned before is how, in later TNG episodes, the idea that Data can't use contractions is made into a significant plot point... despite Data using contractions in the first season).

Let's not forget that Prime Directive. Was it EVER followed in TOS. I think the "western in space" is why I like the Original better. I like sci/fi to have action. I like TNG , but, Picard talks to much. I do think that Enterprise was a pretty good view of reality. Archer was a much more "real" Captain the best of both Kirk and Picard. It was like he had Kirk and Picard on his shoulders whispering to him what to do like the good angel bad angel motif.
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Re: New Star Trek TV series coming in 2017!
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2017, 03:55:49 PM »
I guess my preference for TNG is based on my Utopian hope of a better world, I see no future for mankind in a shooting gallery.
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