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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 07:35:40 PM »
Opus wears vintage babushkas? Pics or it didn't happen.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2016, 07:37:08 PM »
Opus wears vintage babushkas? Pics or it didn't happen.
Opus has a pure eye for women's fashion.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 07:38:15 PM »
Very nice.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2016, 07:43:07 PM »
I noticed their lace infinity scarves quite some time ago, in my Etsy perambulations. They can be lovely, but waaaaay overpriced. Especially for something I'd be quite unlikely to ever wear.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2016, 07:45:14 PM »
Paging Yeshuaisiam.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2016, 07:48:00 PM »
Paging Yeshuaisiam.

Don't tempt him. Too much neck showing.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2016, 07:48:55 PM »
Paging Yeshuaisiam.

Don't tempt him. Too much neck showing.

Too late for me. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2016, 07:49:38 PM »
Those are beautiful.  Do some cultures still wear these as a norm?   Seriously, those look normal and nice enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of those head coverings on window display on Michigan Ave.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2016, 07:53:34 PM »
Those are beautiful.  Do some cultures still wear these as a norm?

Congregations with Slavic roots tend to encourage covering more than the Greek ones, I'm given to understand. Old Calendarists mandate veiling, although these would be far too decadently ornate for them. They're modelled after the traditional(ist) Catholic chapel veils.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2016, 07:54:59 PM »
Those are beautiful.  Do some cultures still wear these as a norm?

Why is that Orthodoxy attracts the weirdest kinds of fetishists? And the more poster here writes about female modesty the more probable is he comes out with some weird sexual fetish in some other thread?

(not calling you specifically, William T, just a general observation)
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2016, 08:00:58 PM »
Those are beautiful.  Do some cultures still wear these as a norm?

Why is that Orthodoxy attracts the weirdest kinds of fetishists? And the more poster here writes about female modesty the more probable is he comes out with some weird sexual fetish in some other thread?

(not calling you specifically, William T, just a general observation)


What?  If I said someone's dress, earing, or lipstick looked nice and I complimented it, I would be a sexual deviant?  C'mon man.  Besides, I dont know what you mean that Orthodoxy attracts sexual fetishes.  I was born Orthodox, so my preferences are pretty genetic, and as far as I know have nothing to do with hats or head coverings.  Also, people from my sito's generation wore these, though I don't know how normative it was.  Their head coverings were ugly though.  I usually associate head coverings with grandma fashion, this looks nice.  That's all.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2016, 08:03:10 PM »
Terrifying that what was normal women's wear two generations ago is this generation's "fetish" (not that I believe the problem is real; just showing the implication of Mike's post).
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2016, 08:04:30 PM »
Those are beautiful.  Do some cultures still wear these as a norm?

Why is that Orthodoxy attracts the weirdest kinds of fetishists? And the more poster here writes about female modesty the more probable is he comes out with some weird sexual fetish in some other thread?

(not calling you specifically, William T, just a general observation)


What?  If I said someone's dress, earing, or lipstick looked nice I would be a secular deviant?  C'money man.  Besides, I dont knos what you mean that Orthodoxy attracts sexual fetishes.  I was born Orthodox, so my preferences are pretty genetic.  Also, people from my sito's generation wore these, though I don't know how normative it was.  Their head coverings were ugly though.  I usually associate head coverings with grandma fashion, this looks nice.  That's all.

I know of people that feel some attraction towards women in scarves and long skirts (for me, I prefer womans' hair and necks but I do like nice skirts) and they explain that using Pauline epistles.

Again, not sayings it's about you but I've seen that trend on OC.net and irl my sister was once almost kicked out of a pilgrimage because her skirt was 3 cm too short according to pilgrimage order service. Aftef that incident there was a time I wanted to join that pilgrimage order service to measure participants' skirts.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2016, 08:04:45 PM »
Terrifying that what was normal women's wear two generations ago is this generation's "fetish" (not that I believe the problem is real; just showing the implication of Mike's post).

Consider the source.
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2016, 08:08:51 PM »
What?  If I said someone's dress, earing, or lipstick looked nice and I complimented it, I would be a sexual deviant?

You missed all the fun...
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2016, 08:13:17 PM »
What?  If I said someone's dress, earing, or lipstick looked nice and I complimented it, I would be a sexual deviant?

You missed all the fun...

This is the best example.
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2016, 08:14:10 PM »
Those are beautiful.  Do some cultures still wear these as a norm?

Why is that Orthodoxy attracts the weirdest kinds of fetishists? And the more poster here writes about female modesty the more probable is he comes out with some weird sexual fetish in some other thread?

(not calling you specifically, William T, just a general observation)


What?  If I said someone's dress, earing, or lipstick looked nice I would be a secular deviant?  C'money man.  Besides, I dont knos what you mean that Orthodoxy attracts sexual fetishes.  I was born Orthodox, so my preferences are pretty genetic.  Also, people from my sito's generation wore these, though I don't know how normative it was.  Their head coverings were ugly though.  I usually associate head coverings with grandma fashion, this looks nice.  That's all.

I know of people that feel some attraction towards women in scarves and long skirts (for me, I prefer womans' hair and necks but I do like nice skirts) and they explain that using Pauline epistles.

Again, not sayings it's about you but I've seen that trend on OC.net and irl my sister was once almost kicked out of a pilgrimage because her skirt was 3 cm too short according to pilgrimage order service. Aftef that incident there was a time I wanted to join that pilgrimage order service to measure participants' skirts.
 

This may be some odd cultural thing.  Some hardcore Muslims in The Levant can treat women like that (second class property).  I guess that happens in some American religions too.  You get a kind of "Puritan eye for the straight gal" fashion approach, and it essentially means everyone is in a black burka or white sack cloth.  This is probably something of a universal and fringe phenomenon that will crop up anywhere for time to time.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2016, 08:16:30 PM »
Well, sure, anyone obsessed with instructing a woman how to package herself, in any way, is a species of fetishist. However, that has nothing to do with traditional dress per se.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2016, 08:17:42 PM »
What?  If I said someone's dress, earing, or lipstick looked nice and I complimented it, I would be a sexual deviant?

You missed all the fun...

Lol!  Was this a joke?  If not, it's written like a perfect parody.  Puritan eye indeed.

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2016, 08:18:38 PM »
Well, sure, anyone obsessed with instructing a woman how to package herself, in any way, is a species of fetishist. However, that has nothing to do with traditional dress per se.

You sure?
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2016, 08:19:37 PM »
What?  If I said someone's dress, earing, or lipstick looked nice and I complimented it, I would be a sexual deviant?

You missed all the fun...

Lol!  Was this a joke?  If not, it's written like a perfect parody.  Puritan eye indeed.

Dead serious, I can assure you.
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2016, 08:29:10 PM »
Well, sure, anyone obsessed with instructing a woman how to package herself, in any way, is a species of fetishist. However, that has nothing to do with traditional dress per se.
How dare a woman dress without my explicit permission.
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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2016, 08:34:32 PM »
This may be inappropriate for this thread, hopefully it's not:

But if this is for people with an eye for fashion, my cousin sent me these pics:






and





It was some fashion show by Chanel.  Inspired by Byzantine fashion.  I don't think I like those center dresses on  that top row with weird shoes.  I don't think anyone could wear any of that stuff.  It still looks like it belongs in a period piece.  The bottom row looks nice though, other than that gold dress.  That looks like a period piece dress as well. 

PS:  That's St. Theodora on the mosaic.
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2016, 08:38:51 PM »
How we have fallen.
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2016, 08:39:40 PM »
Well, sure, anyone obsessed with instructing a woman how to package herself, in any way, is a species of fetishist. However, that has nothing to do with traditional dress per se.

Dude, we've seen your pics. You wanna pretend a few decades ago was the height of teen aged fashion, go ahead. But don't be surprised if some of us laugh at the ironies involved.

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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2016, 08:40:51 PM »
Well, sure, anyone obsessed with instructing a woman how to package herself, in any way, is a species of fetishist. However, that has nothing to do with traditional dress per se.

You sure?

The he believes in something we can call traditional dress without laughing marks him one for our pity rather than contempt.

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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2016, 08:41:38 PM »
This may be inappropriate for this thread, hopefully it's not:

But if this is for people with an eye for fashion, my cousin sent me these pics:






and





It was some fashion show by Chanel.  Inspired by Byzantine fashion.  I don't think I like anything on  that top row with all the dresses and weird shoes.  I don't think anyone could wear any of that stuff.  Everything still looks like it belongs in a period piece.  The bottom row looks nice though, other than that gold dress.  That looks like a period piece dress as well. 

PS:  That's St. Theodora on the mosaic.

I like the top picture (2nd from right) -- the gal dressed in silver/gray, although I do not like the beehive hairstyle.
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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2016, 09:45:42 PM »
LOL!!!! Byzantine ready to wear.
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2016, 04:06:15 PM »
Well, sure, anyone obsessed with instructing a woman how to package herself, in any way, is a species of fetishist. However, that has nothing to do with traditional dress per se.


I don't know what you mean by traditional dress. But most headgear for many men and women in the Middle East and elsewhere served practical reasons and also formal reasons. I'll do a double check on this if you want, but Lebanon and the Damascus area of Syria by the time of my Great Sito's(1920's)  generation, head dresses were probably not normative with either Christians or Muslims.  Very few of the Muslims I know from the region (which is a lot) wear a head dress.   My sito's generation doesn't really wear them in any major capacity.

I notice head dresses (usually very stylish modern ones) on Arabic TV shows, but I think most of the programing is Turkish, with a minority of it being Egyptian. Even there I don't think head dresses are the norm, either for men or women.   So as far as I know, most of the TV Arab Americans watch isnt really Levantine, and very little, if any of the Arabic programming comes from Lebanon.

No Christian man I know wore any traditional Arabic head gear, the older generation did the sensible and more stylish thing and wore Western hats, most of that stuff is associated with hardcore Muslims, Saudis, and Turks I think. Like I said, I'll double check this if you want, or maybe another Arab can confirm or correct me.

It sounds like Archane's story of Greek head gear sounds similar?  My off the cuff crazy random speculation is fashion may have changed once the Turkish yoke was lifted and certain clothes were dropped that reminded people of Ottoman rule, and more towards more progressive trends.  But that's just a blind guess.  All the Greek men of an older generation I know in America all wore western style hats as well.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2016, 06:35:42 PM »
It sounds like Archane's story of Greek head gear sounds similar?  My off the cuff crazy random speculation is fashion may have changed once the Turkish yoke was lifted and certain clothes were dropped that reminded people of Ottoman rule, and more towards more progressive trends.  But that's just a blind guess.  All the Greek men of an older generation I know in America all wore western style hats as well.

Headscarves (triangular, tied under the chin babushka-style) were the hallmark of the Greek peasant woman until the 1960s or so, whether they wore folk dress or not. City women wore hats, which fell out of fashion after WW2. Any hats you see now, on men or women, are primarily fashion statements, and headscarves are to be seen only at folk dance performances in full costume.
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2016, 07:19:23 PM »
I just talked to my aunt:

So it may have been a bit more common than I suggested (my family were from a village FYI). Some women would wear this on their head on occasion for Liturgy and formal/festive affairs in my Great Grandmother/ Grandmother's time.  While most women may have done this from time to time, it wasn't really an overwhelming norm.  Most of the people did not wear headgear most of the time, though many women wore head coverings some of the time (Arabic Lincoln quote?). 

Supposedly this still happens, especially in the villages (most of my extant family in Syria or Lebanon now lives in the City), but is even more rare, but far from eccentric.  Men don't really wear anything.


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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2016, 07:24:20 PM »
It sounds like Archane's story of Greek head gear sounds similar?  My off the cuff crazy random speculation is fashion may have changed once the Turkish yoke was lifted and certain clothes were dropped that reminded people of Ottoman rule, and more towards more progressive trends.  But that's just a blind guess.  All the Greek men of an older generation I know in America all wore western style hats as well.

Headscarves (triangular, tied under the chin babushka-style) were the hallmark of the Greek peasant woman until the 1960s or so, whether they wore folk dress or not. City women wore hats, which fell out of fashion after WW2. Any hats you see now, on men or women, are primarily fashion statements, and headscarves are to be seen only at folk dance performances in full costume.


AH yes.  There is a rumour out there that on home video, a certain 11 yr old boy has been filmed wearing such a headscarve, holding his great grandma's cane , and wearing her shoes doing his best impersonation of his venerable elder.  If this legend is correct, it also states that boy was grounded shortly after the filming, and blackmailed five years later with said video by his wretched, wicked, and conniving little sister when he had his first high school girlfriend.
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2016, 07:41:19 PM »
This may be inappropriate for this thread, hopefully it's not:

But if this is for people with an eye for fashion, my cousin sent me these pics:






and





It was some fashion show by Chanel.  Inspired by Byzantine fashion.  I don't think I like anything on  that top row with all the dresses and weird shoes.  I don't think anyone could wear any of that stuff.  Everything still looks like it belongs in a period piece.  The bottom row looks nice though, other than that gold dress.  That looks like a period piece dress as well. 

PS:  That's St. Theodora on the mosaic.

I like the top picture (2nd from right) -- the gal dressed in silver/gray, although I do not like the beehive hairstyle.

I agree.

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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2016, 07:43:56 PM »
William T,

I fear for your sincerity.

My apologies,

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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2016, 09:43:25 PM »
William T,

I fear for your sincerity.

My apologies,

Norm

Thanks for your concern.  I may be a bit naive and "off the bus" to internet culture, but in "real" life I am very far from that.  I don't think I'm doing anything to jeopardize anyone else other than my own pride when I post here.  Anyway, if I'm making some faux pas for internet culture, or you have some concern , feel free to PM me.  And again, thanks for your concern, and as you seem to be if a fiery and intermittent temperament that I may disagree, don't worry about jumping down my throat if I say anything stupid or wrong.  Like I said, I'm a big boy.
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2016, 10:16:35 PM »
William T,

I fear for your sincerity.

My apologies,

Norm

Thanks for your concern.  I may be a bit naive and "off the bus" to internet culture, but in "real" life I am very far from that.  I don't think I'm doing anything to jeopardize anyone else other than my own pride when I post here.  Anyway, if I'm making some faux pas for internet culture, or you have some concern , feel free to PM me.  And again, thanks for your concern, and as you seem to be if a fiery and intermittent temperament that I may disagree, don't worry about jumping down my throat if I say anything stupid or wrong.  Like I said, I'm a big boy.

And by intermittent, I meant intelligent.  Swype be a harsh mistress.

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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2016, 10:21:14 PM »
LOL!!!! Byzantine ready to wear.

And our favorite man from Eugene finds it terrifying.

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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2016, 10:28:31 PM »
This may be inappropriate for this thread, hopefully it's not:

But if this is for people with an eye for fashion, my cousin sent me these pics:






and





It was some fashion show by Chanel.  Inspired by Byzantine fashion.  I don't think I like anything on  that top row with all the dresses and weird shoes.  I don't think anyone could wear any of that stuff.  Everything still looks like it belongs in a period piece.  The bottom row looks nice though, other than that gold dress.  That looks like a period piece dress as well. 

PS:  That's St. Theodora on the mosaic.

I like the top picture (2nd from right) -- the gal dressed in silver/gray, although I do not like the beehive hairstyle.

The grey, purple, and gold dress all look.nice, but do you think you can wear it out anywhere in.today's world?  The Gold Dress, maybe a young woman at some high end New year's party could wear a dress like that, and it would look very fitting. 

However,those other outfits you can see a woman of different shapes and sizes of 25 or 75 being able to wear such designs quite gracefully and elegantly.

PS: I don't mind beehives at.all. They look even nicer if they have some curls and volume.
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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2016, 10:46:33 PM »
They need real superhumerals.

You know what would also look fly? The Whitney Houston stefana:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/202746383/greek-stefana-stefana-greek-crowns?ref=market
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2016, 11:18:46 PM »
They need real superhumerals.

You know what would also look fly? The Whitney Houston stefana:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/202746383/greek-stefana-stefana-greek-crowns?ref=market


I don't think I get the joke or terms like superhumeral.  If you're making fun of a kind of glitz and glamour, yes  ultimately my glitzy heart is covered in a plastic so you don't ruin the furniture, and surrounded by porcelain pillars for glamorous effect, I'm that chincy and tacky.  I don't claim to have the best taste.
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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2016, 11:29:47 PM »
William T,

I fear for your sincerity.

My apologies,

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Thanks for your concern.  I may be a bit naive and "off the bus" to internet culture, but in "real" life I am very far from that.  I don't think I'm doing anything to jeopardize anyone else other than my own pride when I post here.  Anyway, if I'm making some faux pas for internet culture, or you have some concern , feel free to PM me.  And again, thanks for your concern, and as you seem to be if a fiery and intermittent temperament that I may disagree, don't worry about jumping down my throat if I say anything stupid or wrong.  Like I said, I'm a big boy.

And by intermittent, I meant intelligent.  Swype be a harsh mistress.

Try Nintype. Much better.
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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2016, 11:49:30 PM »
AH yes.  There is a rumour out there that on home video, a certain 11 yr old boy has been filmed wearing such a headscarve, holding his great grandma's cane , and wearing her shoes doing his best impersonation of his venerable elder.  If this legend is correct, it also states that boy was grounded shortly after the filming, and blackmailed five years later with said video by his wretched, wicked, and conniving little sister when he had his first high school girlfriend.

Am I the only one who has no clue what this bizarre story is supposed to be or mean?
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2016, 12:21:59 AM »
I don't think I get the joke or terms like superhumeral. 
A superhumeral is the byzantine armor-like ornament worn from the shoulders to the sternum.
Quote from: Fr. Thomas Hopko, dystopian parable of the prodigal son
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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2016, 12:25:22 AM »
AH yes.  There is a rumour out there that on home video, a certain 11 yr old boy has been filmed wearing such a headscarve, holding his great grandma's cane , and wearing her shoes doing his best impersonation of his venerable elder.  If this legend is correct, it also states that boy was grounded shortly after the filming, and blackmailed five years later with said video by his wretched, wicked, and conniving little sister when he had his first high school girlfriend.

Am I the only one who has no clue what this bizarre story is supposed to be or mean?



I wore my  great grandma's clothes to make.fun of her and got grounded and cussed out in Arabic  Somewhere in the future because of that event my sister ruined my debutant ball..  Mystery solved.  Are you happy now?  I have to write in my.diary again for the first time in ten years. Thanks for the PTSD.

Now ask me about the Book of Revelation, it's all about the latest policy from our Free Mason President, and I can prove it to you if you pop this red pill and follow my logic in 48 simple steps.  You just ruined my Christmas.

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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2016, 03:27:01 AM »
AH yes.  There is a rumour out there that on home video, a certain 11 yr old boy has been filmed wearing such a headscarve, holding his great grandma's cane , and wearing her shoes doing his best impersonation of his venerable elder.  If this legend is correct, it also states that boy was grounded shortly after the filming, and blackmailed five years later with said video by his wretched, wicked, and conniving little sister when he had his first high school girlfriend.

Am I the only one who has no clue what this bizarre story is supposed to be or mean?



I wore my  great grandma's clothes to make.fun of her and got grounded and cussed out in Arabic  Somewhere in the future because of that event my sister ruined my debutant ball..  Mystery solved.  Are you happy now?  I have to write in my.diary again for the first time in ten years. Thanks for the PTSD.

Now ask me about the Book of Revelation, it's all about the latest policy from our Free Mason President, and I can prove it to you if you pop this red pill and follow my logic in 48 simple steps.  You just ruined my Christmas.

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Wut?
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« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2016, 04:05:44 AM »
Just ride the wave. William is an enjoyable read.
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« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2016, 04:13:49 AM »
You forgot to page Fabio Leite, an expert on modern and fashionable feminine modesty.
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« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2016, 04:16:01 AM »
AH yes.  There is a rumour out there that on home video, a certain 11 yr old boy has been filmed wearing such a headscarve, holding his great grandma's cane , and wearing her shoes doing his best impersonation of his venerable elder.  If this legend is correct, it also states that boy was grounded shortly after the filming, and blackmailed five years later with said video by his wretched, wicked, and conniving little sister when he had his first high school girlfriend.

Am I the only one who has no clue what this bizarre story is supposed to be or mean?



I wore my  great grandma's clothes to make.fun of her and got grounded and cussed out in Arabic  Somewhere in the future because of that event my sister ruined my debutant ball..  Mystery solved.  Are you happy now?  I have to write in my.diary again for the first time in ten years. Thanks for the PTSD.

Now ask me about the Book of Revelation, it's all about the latest policy from our Free Mason President, and I can prove it to you if you pop this red pill and follow my logic in 48 simple steps.  You just ruined my Christmas.

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Wut?

But I do not understand what he writes. I mean words put together have no sense for me.
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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2016, 06:12:34 AM »
AH yes.  There is a rumour out there that on home video, a certain 11 yr old boy has been filmed wearing such a headscarve, holding his great grandma's cane , and wearing her shoes doing his best impersonation of his venerable elder.  If this legend is correct, it also states that boy was grounded shortly after the filming, and blackmailed five years later with said video by his wretched, wicked, and conniving little sister when he had his first high school girlfriend.

Am I the only one who has no clue what this bizarre story is supposed to be or mean?



I wore my  great grandma's clothes to make.fun of her and got grounded and cussed out in Arabic  Somewhere in the future because of that event my sister ruined my debutant ball..  Mystery solved.  Are you happy now?  I have to write in my.diary again for the first time in ten years. Thanks for the PTSD.

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Wut?

But I do not understand what he writes. I mean words put together have no sense for me.

mike, the minute revitalizes the heavy loss.  I mean, seriously, why does the distance officiate the remarkable support?  The produce authors the macabre part.

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« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2016, 03:24:35 PM »
I don't think I get the joke or terms like superhumeral. 
A superhumeral is the byzantine armor-like ornament worn from the shoulders to the sternum.

You need to get a life.
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« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2016, 03:51:57 PM »
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The child in the background thinks aloud, "One hides amid pornography, angry music, television that shows the worst of mankind, misanthropic politics, an internet populace led by all the passions: and then one asks, 'Where is God?'"


best summarized as 'ewwwwww'
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According to Augustin, in rural Romania this would be considered incredibly deviant porn.
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The child in the background thinks aloud, "One hides amid pornography, angry music, television that shows the worst of mankind, misanthropic politics, an internet populace led by all the passions: and then one asks, 'Where is God?'"


best summarized as 'ewwwwww'

You know, I haven't heard a kid say, "Yucky!" in a long time.  And I have three nephews who, of course, do gross things.
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« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2016, 01:29:55 AM »
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I am not sure what to say about hats out of context.

Top, I like the fabric. I made my living room drapes out of a fabric similar to this (sewing drapes are easier than shirts).

Middle, dislike, perhaps because it clashes with what she is wearing.

Bottom, temporarily liked this a lot but then I saw what it looked like from behind. When I was a kid, most women in church wore pill box style hats (it was the Jacqueline Kennedy era) or shell shaped hats. I think the addition of veils was more associated with cocktail party hats, maybe somebody knows with greater certainty than me. I do like the collar of the dress or jacket that she is wearing.

If I were a woman and discovered that head coverings were required, I would go to the car and put on the hoodie that you seem to reject:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,49734.msg878553.html#msg878553

As a note, I think the bandana face mask was used to hide the identity of the designer of the hoodie. This was meant to be a limited edition that required pre-sales to make the cost reasonable. This happens with mechanical watches all of the time, but you do not need to show your face with the watch, just your arm.
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« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2016, 02:11:44 AM »
My wife wears custom snoods that I ordered as a gift for her around the time we were married. One is a cheerful, light sky blue and the other is antique white. Each has different trimmings, lace on the white one. They catch the hair (I guess all snoods do) and have ties that fasten at the nape.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2016, 02:19:22 AM »
Men can get in on the modesty game too.  Snoods for dudes:

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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2016, 02:32:27 AM »
Men can get in on the modesty game too.  Snoods for dudes:



Can we have a single thread here not about homosexuality?

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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2016, 02:41:47 AM »
Can we have a single thread here not about homosexuality?

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No.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2016, 04:30:58 AM »
Men can get in on the modesty game too.  Snoods for dudes:

You mean, this?

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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2016, 09:34:28 AM »
Men can get in on the modesty game too.  Snoods for dudes:


I guess Star Wars fans have demanded more authenticity in their costumes.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2016, 09:50:28 AM »
Men can get in on the modesty game too.  Snoods for dudes:



Can we have a single thread here not about homosexuality?

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That can be rather hard to do when you and Porter are crushing on each other in just about every thread.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2016, 02:32:35 AM »
I went to a ROCOR parish yesterday and saw a wide variety of ladies' headgear.  Nothing as pretty as the OP, but all styles and materials.  Snoods, lace, scarves, crochet, hats, kerchiefs, etc.  Unfortunately, no black ladies with amazing church hats.  It just ain't really church church, 'til you got a hat parade.  I guess headscarf parade will have to do from now on.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2016, 02:38:29 AM »
I went to a ROCOR parish yesterday and saw a wide variety of ladies' headgear.  Nothing as pretty as the OP, but all styles and materials.  Snoods, lace, scarves, crochet, hats, kerchiefs, etc.  Unfortunately, no black ladies with amazing church hats.  It just ain't really church church, 'til you got a hat parade.  I guess headscarf parade will have to do from now on.

It's sad that American men have the word "snood" in their active vocabulary.

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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2016, 03:01:41 AM »
I went to a ROCOR parish yesterday and saw a wide variety of ladies' headgear.  Nothing as pretty as the OP, but all styles and materials.  Snoods, lace, scarves, crochet, hats, kerchiefs, etc.  Unfortunately, no black ladies with amazing church hats.  It just ain't really church church, 'til you got a hat parade.  I guess headscarf parade will have to do from now on.

It's sad that American men have the word "snood" in their active vocabulary.

That's the least offensive word to be created in the English language in the last 20 years and you know it.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2016, 03:40:13 AM »
I went to a ROCOR parish yesterday and saw a wide variety of ladies' headgear.  Nothing as pretty as the OP, but all styles and materials.  Snoods, lace, scarves, crochet, hats, kerchiefs, etc.  Unfortunately, no black ladies with amazing church hats.  It just ain't really church church, 'til you got a hat parade.  I guess headscarf parade will have to do from now on.

It's sad that American men have the word "snood" in their active vocabulary.

That's the least offensive word to be created in the English language in the last 20 years and you know it.

"Snood" in the modern sense goes back to the 30s.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2016, 03:51:23 AM »
Men can get in on the modesty game too.  Snoods for dudes:



I work outside a lot in Chicago winters.  I wear something like that with a protective mask.  Either way, it's really nice to have unless I'm wearing sunglasses, then the condensation from breathing with the mask ruins my vision.

Head gear like that is great for bearing rough elements.

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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2016, 09:30:12 AM »
Just wear a balaclava.
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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #70 on: January 08, 2016, 09:36:35 AM »
This is the only snood I am aware of, and I played the heck out of that game in the late 90s.

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Re: Paging Arachne, also Opus
« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2016, 11:18:50 AM »
This is the only snood I am aware of, and I played the heck out of that game in the late 90s.



Very fun game.....




and the word for ladies headwear is not a new thing.....older


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/snood

 1.
a pouchlike hat, often of net, loosely holding a woman's hair at the back
2.
a headband, esp one formerly worn by young unmarried women in Scotland


Word Origin and History for snood
n.

Old English snod "ribbon for the hair," from Proto-Germanic *snodo (cf. Swedish snod "string, cord"), from PIE root *(s)ne- "to spin, sew" (cf. Lettish snate "a linen cover," Old Irish snathe "thread;" see needle (n.)). In the Middle Ages, typically worn by young unmarried girls, hence "It was held to be emblematic of maidenhood or virginity" [Century Dictionary]. Modern fashion meaning "bag-like hair net" first recorded 1938 (these also were worn by girls in the Middle Ages, but they are not snoods properly).


came into use around 900
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