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Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« on: September 14, 2015, 06:52:14 PM »
First of all, all due respect to the ancient hymns and Liturgy of the East. I admire Agni Parthene and Kyrie Eleison greatly, though I admit I have not ventured much beyond those hymns (I am still listening for more though). However, the Western liturgy in Latin has caught my attention and awe ever since I was little. Latin to me is so eloquent and beautiful and I can't shake that 1000 years of Orthodoxy still embedded within. I can't describe the euphoric feeling I get from listening to them, I love the organs and Gothic aesthetics and the tones that reach to the heavens. Koine Greek is pretty but sounds technical to me and I can't appreciate it yet, and Church Slavonic is just odd to me  :(. Does anyone have any links to beautiful pre-Schism/Orthodox hymns in Latin approved to pray or admire with? And by slight chance, are there any modern Orthodox liturgy or hymns in Latin I can listen to?

My favorite discoveries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjK_mbbd8ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3H5f7oePQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7BbncHyw9E (beautiful voice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TacNIbmDZ4s

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Re: Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 07:00:38 PM »
Agni Parthene is beautiful, but it is not ancient. It was written by St Nektarios of Aegina (1846-1920).
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Re: Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 07:05:49 PM »
Agni Parthene is beautiful, but it is not ancient. It was written by St Nektarios of Aegina (1846-1920).

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Re: Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 07:53:13 PM »
I have a CD performed by Ensemble Organum, which specializes in early church music from the medieval and Renaissance periods, called "Chants of the Roman Church--Byzantine Period."   This is a CD featuring old Roman chant during when part of Italy was still under control of the Eastern Emperors mainly from the 6th century until the 7th centuries.  The texts are both in Greek and in Latin.  You can buy it here: http://www.amazon.com/Chants-De-LEglise-Rome/dp/B00009IC6Q
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Re: Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 07:55:12 PM »
I have a CD performed by Ensemble Organum, which specializes in early church music from the medieval and Renaissance periods, called "Chants of the Roman Church--Byzantine Period."   This is a CD featuring old Roman chant during when part of Italy was still under control of the Eastern Emperors mainly from the 6th century until the 7th centuries.  The texts are both in Greek and in Latin.  You can buy it here: http://www.amazon.com/Chants-De-LEglise-Rome/dp/B00009IC6Q

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Re: Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 08:04:50 PM »
Here's one from that album:

https://youtu.be/KDJtBh3LGJg

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Re: Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 10:02:19 PM »
First of all, all due respect to the ancient hymns and Liturgy of the East. I admire Agni Parthene and Kyrie Eleison greatly, though I admit I have not ventured much beyond those hymns (I am still listening for more though). However, the Western liturgy in Latin has caught my attention and awe ever since I was little. Latin to me is so eloquent and beautiful and I can't shake that 1000 years of Orthodoxy still embedded within. I can't describe the euphoric feeling I get from listening to them, I love the organs and Gothic aesthetics and the tones that reach to the heavens. Koine Greek is pretty but sounds technical to me and I can't appreciate it yet, and Church Slavonic is just odd to me  :(. Does anyone have any links to beautiful pre-Schism/Orthodox hymns in Latin approved to pray or admire with? And by slight chance, are there any modern Orthodox liturgy or hymns in Latin I can listen to?

My favorite discoveries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjK_mbbd8ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3H5f7oePQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7BbncHyw9E (beautiful voice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TacNIbmDZ4s

It's probably worth mentioning that the Roman rite (as in the ritual used at Rome) really did not contain many hymns until the 13th century. Certainly there were introits, graduals, and psalm recitation, but not really anything that wasn't taken from the psalter - the Roman rite was both austere and extremely conservative. For centuries, the Roman Mass contained only the Gloria in excelsis and the Office the so-called Ambrosian hymn Te Deum; the Creed was only added to Mass in the 11th century. The Benedictine Office added hymns beginning in the 7th-8th century, which were eventually incorporated into the Roman rite in the 13th century.
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Re: Orthodox/pre-Schism hymns in Latin?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 01:29:16 PM »
   Please check out these works posted here on the Western-Rite board, I hope they interest you.
 


Recordings from the choir at my WR parish

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https://soundcloud.com/stpatrickorthodox/sets/st-patrick-orthodox-church-choir