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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2018, 02:02:55 AM »
Always felling that after I buy something for pleasure that I should've given the money to the Church.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2018, 10:07:07 AM »
Always felling that after I buy something for pleasure that I should've given the money to the Church.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #92 on: November 25, 2018, 03:17:54 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well. But how else shall we consume adequate proteins during the fast?

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2018, 06:48:15 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Gotta discard that soaking water and cook at high temp! Beans aren't supposed to hurt.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2018, 07:10:36 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Gotta discard that soaking water and cook at high temp! Beans aren't supposed to hurt.
Thats right! Preparation is 9/10s of the battle.  Blanche the beans first. Discard the water than use fresh water and boil till tender..
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2018, 07:11:18 PM »
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« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2018, 09:31:50 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well. But how else shall we consume adequate proteins during the fast?



Boiled shrimp.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2018, 09:41:21 PM »
Tofu.  Locusts, if you're biblical.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2018, 10:39:51 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2018, 10:44:39 PM »
The soy-sauced sauteed crickets were too ascetic for the ROCOR parish in the local area.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #100 on: November 26, 2018, 11:40:32 AM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Gotta discard that soaking water and cook at high temp! Beans aren't supposed to hurt.

I always discard the soaking water, but I've never cooked them at a high temperature. I'll try that today. Thank you!
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2018, 01:14:54 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Beans are staple food here, most people eat them twice a day, we're fine so it really won't do any harm if you cook them well. Unfortunately I suck at doing them, but you may listen to Nicholas.  :P
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2018, 01:25:18 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2018, 02:12:02 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.

I don't think that's a matter of laxness versus strictness... that's just the ancient fasting categorization. Lobsters and shrimp are considered relatively luxurious now but it was not always so.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #104 on: November 26, 2018, 02:43:12 PM »
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« Reply #105 on: November 26, 2018, 02:56:54 PM »
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #106 on: November 26, 2018, 03:17:33 PM »
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Yes, Lent can be difficult.

It is best to do prostrations before going anywhere.
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« Reply #107 on: November 26, 2018, 03:27:22 PM »
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #108 on: November 26, 2018, 03:34:53 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.

I don't think that's a matter of laxness versus strictness... that's just the ancient fasting categorization. Lobsters and shrimp are considered relatively luxurious now but it was not always so.
Probably saw someone ranting somewhere and figured ROCOR was to blame. Actually I don't know their rules.

I am aware of the change in seafood's perception though. We should all complain how expensive our prison food has gotten  ;)
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2018, 05:44:37 PM »
For me the hardest part is how culturally foreign it is and how numerically small Orthodoxy is in America. That makes me all the more aware of how statistically probable it is that my children will not hold to the religion as adults. It's difficult and irrelevant, with no general cultural backing like you would get in the Orthodox countries. All in all, with a 45 minute commute to the church and almost total lack of the religion in my region of the country, it feels very lonely.

But it is true, and it is beautiful. Those things keep me coming back every week and keeping faith. It's very unlikely I would have been able to sustain faith as an Evangelical Protestant as an adult.

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« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2018, 05:55:35 PM »
For me it has been zealousness. As a convert who finally found the true Faith and the true Church, I have struggled to simply live a consistent spiritual life. I was warned about "convertitis," and I certainly fell prey to that. I am an all or nothing person, and I've struggled to just live out the Faith one day at a time. So for me, the hardest thing has been learning to make it to Liturgy consistently, to go to Confession (which I don't do enough), and to fast even if I don't keep the fasts as strictly as I should. As the old adage goes: "The race belongs not to the swift, but to those who endure." So if you enter into Orthodoxy, be prepared to struggle; but when you fall just keep getting back up and keep clinging to the Cross.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #111 on: November 26, 2018, 07:31:17 PM »
Hello when I attend an Orthodox Christian Church during my early days of wanting to convert I was told of any of the rules that would be required for me to follow. The priest took upon himself to make the choice not to tell me before converting me to the Orthodox Christian faith. I didn't find it out 9 or 10 years later,  I was so upset with him for giving the chance to make that choice for myself. I kind of blow my stack at him ,but in the end I forgave his kind pushing me into the Church. It is now 20 years ago that I converted to the faith, I still have issues with the fast but I'm trying my best I can to do what faith tells me to do. I'm not to good at living the fast but keep trying to do so... I will more then like struggle with the faith for a very long time...

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« Reply #112 on: November 26, 2018, 07:34:44 PM »
I do believe in the faith that I have and won't leave the Church because of what happened so long ago. When I think of it where would I go , so I relented and except my faith in full..

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2018, 12:26:43 PM »
Yes, Great Lent is 40 days.
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« Reply #114 on: December 03, 2018, 12:59:02 AM »
Hello when I attend an Orthodox Christian Church during my early days of wanting to convert I was told of any of the rules that would be required for me to follow. The priest took upon himself to make the choice not to tell me before converting me to the Orthodox Christian faith. I didn't find it out 9 or 10 years later,  I was so upset with him for giving the chance to make that choice for myself. I kind of blow my stack at him ,but in the end I forgave his kind pushing me into the Church. It is now 20 years ago that I converted to the faith, I still have issues with the fast but I'm trying my best I can to do what faith tells me to do. I'm not to good at living the fast but keep trying to do so... I will more then like struggle with the faith for a very long time...

What rules?
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« Reply #115 on: December 03, 2018, 02:14:28 AM »
Huuuummmh ~ never knew anything from outside of the Orthodox faith ~ I saw others and tried to understand what they believed ~ who they thought Christ was ~  when they would say things like : "Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior" as if Jesus was his first name an Christ was his family name ~ some times the way they spoke of the Lord ~ it was too familiar ~ rude or vulgar ~ know what I mean ```



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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #116 on: December 03, 2018, 08:35:10 PM »
On Wednesday and Friday no relationship with the wife and Saturday the night before Divine Liturgy that one and half the year we fast from meats and dairy plus a few other things....

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« Reply #117 on: December 04, 2018, 03:05:01 AM »
On Wednesday and Friday no relationship with the wife and Saturday the night before Divine Liturgy that one and half the year we fast from meats and dairy plus a few other things....
And those are "the rules", huh?

Doesn't sound like your first priest kept anything from you. Sounds like a second or third priest put quite a yoke on you though.
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« Reply #118 on: December 04, 2018, 07:35:32 PM »
There are no requirements under the pain of death should you not fast ~ keep yourself from sin ~ Love the Lord ~ Keep the commandments ~ being Orthodox is the easiest life on earth ~ Yes ~ we can put ashes in our hair and walk bare footed up the mountain and eat nothing but stale bread and water But all that not required ~  Yes ~ fasting the few hours before Communion ~ but ~ there are no ~ do this or that or God won't Love you or you can't sing the Sharagans if you've driven over the speed limit on the way to work on Friday ```

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Jesus, Wisdom of the Father, give us wisdom, to think, speak and do what is Good before you at all times. And save us from evil thoughts, words and deed, amen.

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« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2018, 04:19:41 PM »
Myself.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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« Reply #123 on: April 10, 2019, 07:25:32 PM »
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« Reply #124 on: April 10, 2019, 07:51:16 PM »
Me. Especially getting up on Sundays.

Besides me, a more minor thing is worshipping with Protestants. I have a lot of Protestant friends, and doing worship with them is just awkward for me, as I don't know any Protestant Christian songs and it's a very different mindset of worshipping. Thankfully I don't do it that often.
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« Reply #125 on: April 10, 2019, 09:39:33 PM »
Yes, Great Lent is 40 days.
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« Reply #126 on: April 11, 2019, 10:29:31 PM »
What are some of the hardest parts of being Orthodox?

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« Reply #127 on: April 15, 2019, 01:43:57 AM »
It isn't easy to talk about Orthodoxy ~ without it sounding borderline boasting ~ I know it's not our place to brag or take credit ~  I have to watch myself when talking with others ```
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« Reply #128 on: April 15, 2019, 06:42:47 AM »
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #129 on: April 15, 2019, 07:35:04 PM »
Doing the hours
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Trampling down death by death,
And upon those in the tombs
Bestowing life!- Paschal troparion

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #130 on: April 15, 2019, 10:42:09 PM »
I'm changing my answer to CONFESSION
Wishing to grant pardon for ancient debts, he who cancels the debts of all people came himself and dwelt among those who were estranged from his divine grace; and tearing apart the record of sin, he hears from everyone: Alleluia.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #131 on: April 16, 2019, 12:30:33 PM »
Going to church, daily prayers, and confessions.  I've honestly had to pull back, as for a while, my spiritual routine was causing me to have a near-perpetual low level panic attack.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #132 on: May 07, 2019, 04:18:24 AM »
1. Not being judgemental (abstain from expressing bad opinions about people)
2. standing long hours in the church (it can be 2 hours, 4 hours or more :)
3. removing wax from your cuffs :)
4. taking good care your your beard :D
5. If you're not married, then certain areas of life are not for you. Forget about it. For good.
6. Realizing how much evil is in the surrounding world - on tv, in everyday life, everywhere: adultery, lies, injustice, violence, war, terror, fear, despair...
7. Realizing how perverse, deceitful, double-faced person you are. It's really hard to bear! "Like a pig lying in its own sh..., so the sinner paddles in sin". You may cry, but not despair ('cause it's also a sin) :D
8. This feeling, when a minute after a confession you realize that you forgot to mention a grave sin :D
9. In my case, long distance trips each week to go to church.
10. "Coming out" in a a catholic family :D (er... I mean, admiting you joined OC). Explaining it's not like joining Jehovah's Witnesses or becoming a buddhist monk.

Fasting is actually not so bad - it's like a balm for the soul. It helps you realize to how many things you're addicted to. And really it helps to get rid of some evil spirit from your soul - fear, despair, anxiety, depression, addiction, carelessness, etc.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #133 on: May 15, 2019, 04:45:06 AM »
I've realised how many people are turned away from Orthodoxy in the West for some kind of "loneliness" that follows practicing a minority religion.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #134 on: May 15, 2019, 08:39:39 AM »
I've realised how many people are turned away from Orthodoxy in the West for some kind of "loneliness" that follows practicing a minority religion.

Especially because of my favourite topic: calendar. If you're Orthodox in  a country that has some feasts as holidays according to the Gregorian calendar and the society is still quite religious, it's really not easy. I mean precisely Poland.
Plus also a lot of mixed marriges - it's also a disadvantage belonging to a minority.
I suppose such things as loneliness in e.g fasting exist too, but they're less influential.
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