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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2015, 10:05:09 PM »
I think someone (maybe Mor) said make this man a bishop.  Agreed.

It was MOR and he right about Father G should be a bishop.

On one condition: I get the boot...



lol can you imagine showing up to give a homily looking like that? jaws would hit the floor like a cartoon scene  :D

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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2015, 10:08:27 PM »
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In case you're unfamiliar about the Eastern Orthodoxy, it's like the more self-serious, somber older brother of the Catholicism.

Why the gratuitous "the" in front of "Eastern Orthodoxy" and "Catholicism"? 

My guess is that 'the' got left in during the process of editing the phrases 'the Orthodox Church' and 'the Catholic Church'. That's the sort of trap I fall into fairly regularly now that I do all my writing and editing on the computer.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  Either way, it (along with other mistakes throughout the letter) makes her sound like this, which is not the tone you want to go for when attempting to act all enlightened and superior and lecture your former bishop.

I thought she sounded more like this.
He spoke it as kindly and heartily as could be; as if a man dashed a gallon of cold water in your broth and never doubted you'd like it all the better. 

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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2015, 10:20:39 PM »
Song appropriate to the Thread Title, Klaus Nomi's cover of Lesley Gore's 1964 hit "You Don't Own Me" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Yrg9xNSS0
« Last Edit: July 21, 2015, 10:29:07 PM by Bob2 »

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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2015, 11:01:02 PM »
Well, I skimmed the article, and it sounds like what we have all come to expect from years of 'higher education.'
Fr. what makes you think that?
« Last Edit: July 21, 2015, 11:01:09 PM by NicholasMyra »
Quote from: Fr. Thomas Hopko, dystopian parable of the prodigal son
...you can imagine so-called healing services of the pigpen. The books that could be written, you know: Life in the Pigpen. How to Cope in the Pigpen. Being Happy in the Pigpen. Surviving in the Pigpen. And then there could be counselling, for people who feel unhappy in the pigpen, to try to get them to come to terms with the pigpen, and to accept the pigpen.

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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2015, 11:15:53 PM »
Well, I skimmed the article, and it sounds like what we have all come to expect from years of 'higher education.'
Fr. what makes you think that?

This is a really badly-crafted piece.
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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2015, 11:34:38 PM »
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LOL! he is hilarious...the tooth routine had me dying in laughter
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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2015, 11:38:34 PM »
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LOL! he is hilarious...the tooth routine had me dying in laughter





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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2015, 12:04:26 AM »
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LOL! he is hilarious...the tooth routine had me dying in laughter







yikes vermin still running for office? he like 1984 on steroids, l remember reading about him in 2008 (depressing campaign year) and thought is this a prank?

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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2015, 08:37:05 AM »
Well, I skimmed the article, and it sounds like what we have all come to expect from years of 'higher education.'  Namely, a regurgitation of the politics du jour served up with a heaping plate of non-introspection.

I'd say she's ready for the OCNet!  ;)

Well, I think she is right: the Church needs to bring up more pressing issues, like:

- Alcoholism and Drug Abuse
- The Over-prescription of Narcotics and Medications
- Addiction to electronics and 'social media'
- Children denied nuclear families and their own parents
- Pornography addiction
- Over-diagnosis of ADD
- Depression epidemic
- Plummeting birthrate
- Loneliness
- Escalating mental illness
- The demise of adulthood and emotional stability

I think we need to draw attention to the fact that if the world's ways are so much better, why are we whining all the time?  Why are people complaining incessantly about how tough life is and how much they really need 'medical marijuana' to get through the day?

If life is so bad we need to get stoned and 'party' every weekend, what does this say about following the same drumbeat demanding 'gay marriages,' no-fault divorce, parent swapping, 'attraction,' and all the other stupid stuff we get bombarded with so often it doesn't seem ludicrous anymore?  We've never been so rich... and so miserable.  Yes, we are more miserable now than we were in the Great Depression, if you factor in how much more we have and yet how little it seems to matter.

Now is the time to start challenging the world on its own terms: if you fail to make people happy with your 'social progress,' are you willing to admit it?

Our schools are failing each year, and yet no one gets fired.  Our inner cities are cages of despair, yet the same clowns get elected year after year to do nothing.  Our universities have tenure, yet the students are dumber (I hear this from supervisors all the time, how lazy and thoughtless the new graduates are).

I think the Church should point out that we have a way that is intentionally different from the way of the world, because we are supposed to be the refuge from the world for the broken and wounded.  The world kills, and we heal.  If we become the world, then we become part of the problem.

We don't even need to get into political topics like 'gun control' or 'social justice,' when there are plenty of more fundamental problems: people are doing whatever they want, and they are miserable.

How many of the political problems we constantly hear about would be instantly cured if people heeded the Church's admonishments of humility and self-control, love and generosity?

I think the world dishes out a lot of criticism, but does not sit well with an honest critique.  That's where we come in... 



Fr. Giryus, thank you for this response!
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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2015, 03:39:46 PM »
Well, I skimmed the article, and it sounds like what we have all come to expect from years of 'higher education.'
Fr. what makes you think that?

This is a really badly-crafted piece.
I meant the higher education part.
Quote from: Fr. Thomas Hopko, dystopian parable of the prodigal son
...you can imagine so-called healing services of the pigpen. The books that could be written, you know: Life in the Pigpen. How to Cope in the Pigpen. Being Happy in the Pigpen. Surviving in the Pigpen. And then there could be counselling, for people who feel unhappy in the pigpen, to try to get them to come to terms with the pigpen, and to accept the pigpen.

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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2015, 03:43:25 PM »
Well, I skimmed the article, and it sounds like what we have all come to expect from years of 'higher education.'
Fr. what makes you think that?

This is a really badly-crafted piece.
I meant the higher education part.

So did I.

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Re: Huff Post: You Don't Own Marriage: An Open Letter to Bishop Thomas
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2015, 04:29:46 PM »
Well, I skimmed the article, and it sounds like what we have all come to expect from years of 'higher education.'
Fr. what makes you think that?

This is a really badly-crafted piece.
I meant the higher education part.

So did I.



I guess the education sucks more than I thought...
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