Author Topic: Why do you have such little faith?  (Read 1128 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline RobS

  • Protokentarchos
  • *********
  • Posts: 3,914
Why do you have such little faith?
« on: July 16, 2015, 11:29:50 AM »
I'm not trying to boast, but I never get how people can ascribe themselves to a religion but still be filled with doubts. Maybe I'm a complete idiot, but its better to have a zealous blind faith into whatever it is you believe rather than racking your mind over all the particularities and using "reason" to discern. I don't think any religion is "reasonable", that's part of the leap of faith that is required. I see too much on these boards people want proofs or great arguments for the existence of God as if that will gain them faith. The truth is there is no proof and there certainly isn't a good argument for the existence of God (I'd argue God doesn't "exist"). Or people want some sign or miracle. It just seems silly to me those that are active in a religion but still have doubts, or really don't live it out passionately. So yeah I guess I am pretty extreme, all or nothing, anything in between just isn't worth it. So if you want to be Orthodox, Catholic or a Christian or anything else why not just fully ascribe to it, what exactly stops you from doing so? I just don't get it.
"The business of the Christian is nothing else than to be ever preparing for death (μελεπᾷν ἀποθνήσκειν)."

— Saint Irenaeus of Lyons, Fragment XI

Modernist thinking and being consists of nothing but uncritical acceptance.

Online Arachne

  • Trinary Unit || Resident Bossy Boots
  • Section Moderator
  • Toumarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,882
  • Race: Human. Culture: Yes.
  • Faith: Cradle Greek Orthodox. Cope.
  • Jurisdiction: Antiochian Archdiocese, UK
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2015, 11:31:35 AM »
I don't get internet MPD either, but eh.
'Evil isn't the real threat to the world. Stupid is just as destructive as evil, maybe more so, and it's a hell of a lot more common. What we really need is a crusade against stupid. That might actually make a difference.'~Harry Dresden

~ bookshelf ~ ugly writing ~ jukebox ~

Offline RobS

  • Protokentarchos
  • *********
  • Posts: 3,914
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 11:33:28 AM »
I don't get internet MPD either, but eh.
Well sure you can be whoever you want on the net, its a great place to wear multiple masks.
"The business of the Christian is nothing else than to be ever preparing for death (μελεπᾷν ἀποθνήσκειν)."

— Saint Irenaeus of Lyons, Fragment XI

Modernist thinking and being consists of nothing but uncritical acceptance.

Offline PeterTheAleut

  • The Right Blowhard Peter the Furtive of Yetts O'Muckhart
  • Hypatos
  • *****************
  • Posts: 37,280
  • Lord, have mercy on the Christians in Mosul!
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Orthodox Church in America
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 11:36:17 AM »
I'm not trying to boast,
Usually, when a person feels the need to start off with this disclaimer, it's because he is trying to boast.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2015, 11:37:10 AM by PeterTheAleut »
Not all who wander are lost.

Offline PeterTheAleut

  • The Right Blowhard Peter the Furtive of Yetts O'Muckhart
  • Hypatos
  • *****************
  • Posts: 37,280
  • Lord, have mercy on the Christians in Mosul!
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Orthodox Church in America
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 11:36:49 AM »
I don't get internet MPD either, but eh.
Well sure you can be whoever you want on the net, its a great place to wear multiple masks.
And what masks are you wearing?
Not all who wander are lost.

Offline RobS

  • Protokentarchos
  • *********
  • Posts: 3,914
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 11:39:22 AM »
I'm not trying to boast,
Usually, when a person feels the need to start off with this disclaimer, it's because he is trying to boast.
I don't disagree Peter, but wanted to give heed before I lay out my opinion because it could have been misconstrued as boasting.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2015, 11:42:34 AM by nothing »
"The business of the Christian is nothing else than to be ever preparing for death (μελεπᾷν ἀποθνήσκειν)."

— Saint Irenaeus of Lyons, Fragment XI

Modernist thinking and being consists of nothing but uncritical acceptance.

Offline RobS

  • Protokentarchos
  • *********
  • Posts: 3,914
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2015, 11:39:42 AM »
I don't get internet MPD either, but eh.
Well sure you can be whoever you want on the net, its a great place to wear multiple masks.
And what masks are you wearing?
Today I'm not at all sure.
"The business of the Christian is nothing else than to be ever preparing for death (μελεπᾷν ἀποθνήσκειν)."

— Saint Irenaeus of Lyons, Fragment XI

Modernist thinking and being consists of nothing but uncritical acceptance.

Offline Asteriktos

  • Hypatos
  • *****************
  • Posts: 38,823
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2015, 11:40:09 AM »
People can't choose such things by sheer force of will (or leap of faith), any more than they can choose to be intelligent, or have a good work ethic, or be attractive to a majority of people. These things can be worked on and moved partial millimeters at a time, but nature provides the first meter, and continues adding.

Offline RobS

  • Protokentarchos
  • *********
  • Posts: 3,914
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2015, 11:47:23 AM »
People can't choose such things by sheer force of will (or leap of faith), any more than they can choose to be intelligent, or have a good work ethic, or be attractive to a majority of people. These things can be worked on and moved partial millimeters at a time, but nature provides the first meter, and continues adding.
Sure it might take time to be "convinced" in whatever it is you need to be "convinced" of.

What I'm talking about are those that have already been "convinced", but all I see here is a lot of nomialism. So why get your feet wet in a kiddie pool and not plunge in the deep end? I know terrible metaphor...
"The business of the Christian is nothing else than to be ever preparing for death (μελεπᾷν ἀποθνήσκειν)."

— Saint Irenaeus of Lyons, Fragment XI

Modernist thinking and being consists of nothing but uncritical acceptance.

Offline PeterTheAleut

  • The Right Blowhard Peter the Furtive of Yetts O'Muckhart
  • Hypatos
  • *****************
  • Posts: 37,280
  • Lord, have mercy on the Christians in Mosul!
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Orthodox Church in America
Re: Why do you have such little faith?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2015, 12:53:38 PM »
I don't get internet MPD either, but eh.
Well sure you can be whoever you want on the net, its a great place to wear multiple masks.
And what masks are you wearing?
Today I'm not at all sure.
Is one of those masks a shiny mask?
Not all who wander are lost.