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Highly visible and successful European team becomes perennial losers after dumping the Cross emblem on it's unifrom.

Is God truly a soccer (futbol) fan?

Apparently so; 8)

Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match

In the present sports season 2014/2015 the Spanish soccer team Real Madrid C. F. lost every major soccer competition it was contesting: Champions League (European League), Copa del Rey (the Spanish championship) and the Spanish League. In each of these there were hopes that Real Madrid would win. In fact Real Madrid was first in the Spanish League for a considerable period of the competition.

It is my opinion that this happened because of the fact that Real Madrid F.C. took off the Cross of Christ from its emblem, in order to not “offend” the Club’s Muslim sponsors, precisely in this season.  Here is why I think so:



4 – And last, but not least: While Real Madrid took the Cross out of the emblem, Barcelona actually has a cross on its emblem. And it is not a common cross without significance. It’s the cross of St. George, the 4th century Christian martyr soldier.

I think it was God’s way of showing people that those who deny Him before man will be punished.



Sincerely,

Rafael Centeio

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/real-madrid-removes-the-christian-cross-and-loses-every-major-match/

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Or maybe they just happen to suck this season.

Nah, they won the FIFA Club World Cup that was held in a Muslim country, no less.
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I'm sure God really cares who wins in sporting events on Earth.
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

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I'm sure God really cares who wins in sporting events on Earth.
You mean he's not an Angels fan?

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Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

It's either that or in hoc signo vinces.
Good one. ;)
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"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2015, 02:48:20 PM »
Real Madrid loses soccer matches for doing only the minutest fraction of what ISIS successfully does non-stop.  What a God you are promoting, a God who blesses those who behead and crucify men, condemn women to sex slavery, stomp and trample on babies, bury people alive, etc., while cursing athletes for changing their uniforms.       
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2015, 03:41:54 PM »
I'm sure God really cares who wins in sporting events on Earth.

Well, if he has a keen sense of humor, maybe.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2015, 03:44:39 PM »
Real Madrid loses soccer matches for doing only the minutest fraction of what ISIS successfully does non-stop.  What a God you are promoting, a God who blesses those who behead and crucify men, condemn women to sex slavery, stomp and trample on babies, bury people alive, etc., while cursing athletes for changing their uniforms.       

Exactly. The just world hypothesis is Christianity's greatest enemy.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2015, 03:45:27 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2015, 02:26:11 PM »
Real Madrid loses soccer matches for doing only the minutest fraction of what ISIS successfully does non-stop.  What a God you are promoting, a God who blesses those who behead and crucify men, condemn women to sex slavery, stomp and trample on babies, bury people alive, etc., while cursing athletes for changing their uniforms.       
Uh, you need to re-read the article Mor, they dumped the cross TO PLACATE THE MUSLIMS.


Are you ashamed of the Cross of Christ?

I never once "promoted" a god which you are talking about.

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2015, 02:27:41 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2015, 02:31:38 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2015, 02:36:04 PM »
Are you ashamed of the Cross of Christ?

No.  Any other questions?
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2015, 02:37:08 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because they're placating idiots.

I don't support what they did. I just reject the idea that whether or not they win in their cosmically-insignificant sport is a sign of divine approval or rejection. My God doesn't roll that way.



Besides... every true Christian knows that Jesus is a rugby fan ;)
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2015, 03:03:47 PM »
I am now no longer a Real Madrid fan.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2015, 03:10:52 PM »
Some of you people are religious nutballs.

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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2015, 03:13:33 PM »
Some of you people are religious nutballs.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2015, 03:15:54 PM »
Mmm, nutballs...

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2015, 03:30:48 PM »
Some of you people are religious nutballs.
I think this thread is an excellent example of what pressing matters are deserving of Charles' attention (and provoke his outrage I'd imagine). Can you really take anything Charles has to say on social issues seriously?

On a serious note, you know I wish I could envision a world where there were only fools for Christ.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2015, 03:40:43 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because.
So in essence, their cowards. Placating a bunch pagans;

Real Madrid have removed the traditional Christian cross from their official club crest after signing a lucrative three-year deal with the National Bank of Abu Dhabi.(sold out to mammon ;))

The crest, which was originally designed in 1931, usually contains a cross on top of a crown but that has been removed for use in the Middle East in order not to offend Muslim sensibilities in the region. The original design will continue to be used in Europe.



http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/27/real-madrid-christian-cross-abu-dhabi-crest
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2015, 03:43:29 PM »
Some of you people are religious nutballs.
No, the religous "nutballs" are the ones paranoid about the cross on a unifom.

Not mentioning, it's a part of the teams culture.

Matter of fact, some people are secular nutballs on a Christian forum.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2015, 03:44:15 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because.
So in essence, their cowards doing business. Placating a bunch pagans their primary sponsors
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2015, 03:44:40 PM »
Some of you people are religious nutballs.
I think this thread is an excellent example of what pressing matters are deserving of Charles' attention (and provoke his outrage I'd imagine). Can you really take anything Charles has to say on social issues seriously?

On a serious note, you know I wish I could envision a world where there were only fools for Christ.
What's a "fool for Christ"?

Ditching his cross?
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2015, 03:45:34 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because.
So in essence, their cowards doing business. Placating a bunch pagans their primary sponsors
Irrelevant then for erasing the Cross.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2015, 03:48:03 PM »
Matter of fact, some people are secular nutballs on a Christian forum.

It's the worship of mammon, not of secularism, that made them change their logo.
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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2015, 03:48:46 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because they're placating idiots.

I don't support what they did. I just reject the idea that whether or not they win in their cosmically-insignificant sport is a sign of divine approval or rejection. My God doesn't roll that way.



Besides... every true Christian knows that Jesus is a rugby fan ;)
Do you wear a Cross at work?

If you're boss told you stop wearing it tommorrow because he's a Muslim and it offends him,.

Would you?
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2015, 03:49:50 PM »
Matter of fact, some people are secular nutballs on a Christian forum.

It's the worship of mammon, not of secularism, that made them change their logo.
Ok, mammon nutballs then if that makes you feel better cyrie.
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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2015, 04:01:51 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because.
So in essence, their cowards doing business. Placating a bunch pagans their primary sponsors
Lol exactly.
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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2015, 04:05:27 PM »
Do you wear a Cross at work?

If you're boss told you stop wearing it tommorrow because he's a Muslim and it offends him,.

Would you?
You don't really take this Christianity stuff too seriously eh?
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2015, 04:09:35 PM »
Funny that your god got offended because of what the team did and decided to do something about it, but he is not offended by what is happening to Christians in the middle east.

God is not like that AT ALL, but I guess some people have that sad pathetic image of god.

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2015, 04:09:52 PM »
Do you wear a Cross at work?

If you're boss told you stop wearing it tommorrow because he's a Muslim and it offends him,.

Would you?
You don't really take this Christianity stuff too seriously eh?

This ought to be good...
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2015, 04:10:25 PM »
Funny that your god got offended because of what the team did and decided to do something about it, but he is not offended by what is happening to Christians in the middle east.

God is not like that AT ALL, but I guess some people have that sad pathetic image of god.

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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2015, 04:11:29 PM »
Do you wear a Cross at work?

If you're boss told you stop wearing it tommorrow because he's a Muslim and it offends him,.

Would you?
You don't really take this Christianity stuff too seriously eh?
I certainly don't take you too seriously.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2015, 04:12:58 PM »
your god

Did you become an atheist or a hindu?
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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2015, 04:15:12 PM »
your god

Did you become an atheist or a hindu?

The god that Charles believes in is not a god I believe in, that is why I didn't use capital letter. 

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« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2015, 04:16:36 PM »
Funny that your god got offended because of what the team did and decided to do something about it, but he is not offended by what is happening to Christians in the middle east.

God is not like that AT ALL, but I guess some people have that sad pathetic image of god.

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Sorry, did the Star of David offended you ?

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2015, 04:18:10 PM »
Funny that your god got offended because of what the team did and decided to do something about it, but he is not offended by what is happening to Christians in the middle east.

God is not like that AT ALL, but I guess some people have that sad pathetic image of god.
Middle East? Hell, what about the millions of "fetuses" that have been beheaded over the last four decades in America?

Or the worship of sodomy?

the muzzies are way behind God's "crap-list" if you ask me.

At least they don't pretend to believe in their religion like we do here, even on this forum.

Let's see a a team from Saudi that was financed by a Catholic give up the Crescent on their uniform when they play in Europe.

Yea, like that'll happen.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2015, 04:18:46 PM »
Funny that your god got offended because of what the team did and decided to do something about it, but he is not offended by what is happening to Christians in the middle east.

God is not like that AT ALL, but I guess some people have that sad pathetic image of god.

Tell us more, rainbow Star of David!

Sorry, did the Star of David offended you ?

I think most observant Jews would find your rendition of the star to be offensive. I  don't find it offensive, as I am not a Jew. I just think it's silly.
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« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2015, 04:22:56 PM »
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2015, 04:23:28 PM »
Funny that your god got offended because of what the team did and decided to do something about it, but he is not offended by what is happening to Christians in the middle east.

God is not like that AT ALL, but I guess some people have that sad pathetic image of god.

Tell us more, rainbow Star of David!

Sorry, did the Star of David offended you ?

I bet most sincere Jew would be offended by your star of David.

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« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2015, 04:31:20 PM »
Good bye trolls. You win again.

But hey, you helped me see the ugly side of Christianity.  Christ, I'm leaving your flock.

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« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2015, 04:33:09 PM »
Good bye trolls. You win again.

But hey, you helped me see the ugly side of Christianity.  Christ, I'm leaving your flock.

Of all threads on this forum to make you leave Christianity, THIS is the one that breaks you?
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« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2015, 04:38:18 PM »
Good bye trolls. You win again.

But hey, you helped me see the ugly side of Christianity.  Christ, I'm leaving your flock.

Of all threads on this forum to make you leave Christianity, THIS is the one that breaks you?

Many threads and people on this forum lead me to see the ugly face of Christianity. I'm fed up with it. I lived my whole life surrounded with hate, and left my religion because of that hate, but now I see that Christianity is no better. Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2015, 04:43:20 PM »
Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

Come back and tell us when you've found the group with only perfect people in it.
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« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2015, 04:45:46 PM »
Good bye trolls. You win again.

But hey, you helped me see the ugly side of Christianity.  Christ, I'm leaving your flock.

Of all threads on this forum to make you leave Christianity, THIS is the one that breaks you?

Many threads and people on this forum lead me to see the ugly face of Christianity. I'm fed up with it. I lived my whole life surrounded with hate, and left my religion because of that hate, but now I see that Christianity is no better. Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

If you believe in Christ, why would you leave his church just because you don't like his adherents? I advise you to really, really think about this for your soul's sake.
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« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2015, 04:47:15 PM »
Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

Come back and tell us when you've found the group with only perfect people in it.

There isn't any. But you would think that if Christianity it is what says it is, it would be the least one with such people, but reality is different. By their fruits you know them.

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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2015, 04:47:48 PM »
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2015, 04:50:49 PM »
But you would think that if Christianity it is what says it is, it would be the least one with such people

You'd be wrong.

Who said "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief"?

Why are you still lingering here after you said goodbye? Back already?
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2015, 04:54:07 PM »
Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

Come back and tell us when you've found the group with only perfect people in it.

There isn't any. But you would think that if Christianity it is what says it is, it would be the least one with such people, but reality is different. By their fruits you know them.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2015, 04:59:04 PM »
Highly visible and successful European team becomes perennial losers after dumping the Cross emblem on it's unifrom.

Is God truly a soccer (futbol) fan?

Apparently so; 8)

Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match

In the present sports season 2014/2015 the Spanish soccer team Real Madrid C. F. lost every major soccer competition it was contesting: Champions League (European League), Copa del Rey (the Spanish championship) and the Spanish League. In each of these there were hopes that Real Madrid would win. In fact Real Madrid was first in the Spanish League for a considerable period of the competition.

It is my opinion that this happened because of the fact that Real Madrid F.C. took off the Cross of Christ from its emblem, in order to not “offend” the Club’s Muslim sponsors, precisely in this season.  Here is why I think so:



4 – And last, but not least: While Real Madrid took the Cross out of the emblem, Barcelona actually has a cross on its emblem. And it is not a common cross without significance. It’s the cross of St. George, the 4th century Christian martyr soldier.

I think it was God’s way of showing people that those who deny Him before man will be punished.



Sincerely,

Rafael Centeio

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/real-madrid-removes-the-christian-cross-and-loses-every-major-match/
I'm glad to see they ditched the charade of being a Christian sports team. Now the world will see what they really are.
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« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2015, 05:00:57 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2015, 05:47:08 PM »
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« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2015, 07:02:15 PM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because they're placating idiots.

I don't support what they did. I just reject the idea that whether or not they win in their cosmically-insignificant sport is a sign of divine approval or rejection. My God doesn't roll that way.



Besides... every true Christian knows that Jesus is a rugby fan ;)
Do you wear a Cross at work?

If you're boss told you stop wearing it tommorrow because he's a Muslim and it offends him,.

Would you?

I would not remove it and I don't think Real Madrid should have removed theirs. My only beef is with the silly idea that God rewards good Christian sports teams with wins and punishes bad ones with losses. That's an infantile concept.
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« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2015, 07:05:38 PM »
Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

Come back and tell us when you've found the group with only perfect people in it.

There isn't any. But you would think that if Christianity it is what says it is, it would be the least one with such people, but reality is different. By their fruits you know them.

How can you tell which is "the least one?"
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« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2015, 07:29:33 PM »
Good bye trolls. You win again.

But hey, you helped me see the ugly side of Christianity.  Christ, I'm leaving your flock.

Of all threads on this forum to make you leave Christianity, THIS is the one that breaks you?

Many threads and people on this forum lead me to see the ugly face of Christianity. I'm fed up with it. I lived my whole life surrounded with hate, and left my religion because of that hate, but now I see that Christianity is no better. Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

There are plenty of hateful people who aren't Christians, too. Studies show that around 90% of the "manosphere" guys are atheists, and that blatant misogyny and sexual harassment against women is a rampant problem at atheist conventions. Guys like TheAmazingAtheist and Thunderf00t epitomize this tendency. If you would not blame "the all-powerful Atheismo" for their behavior, then why would you claim that the bad behavior of some who claim to follow Christ is grounds enough to reject Him?
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« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2015, 08:04:24 PM »
Good bye trolls. You win again.

But hey, you helped me see the ugly side of Christianity.  Christ, I'm leaving your flock.

Of all threads on this forum to make you leave Christianity, THIS is the one that breaks you?

Many threads and people on this forum lead me to see the ugly face of Christianity. I'm fed up with it. I lived my whole life surrounded with hate, and left my religion because of that hate, but now I see that Christianity is no better. Christ, sorry I'm leaving you, but I'm done with you because of those who follow you.

There are plenty of hateful people who aren't Christians, too. Studies show that around 90% of the "manosphere" guys are atheists, and that blatant misogyny and sexual harassment against women is a rampant problem at atheist conventions. Guys like TheAmazingAtheist and Thunderf00t epitomize this tendency. If you would not blame "the all-powerful Atheismo" for their behavior, then why would you claim that the bad behavior of some who claim to follow Christ is grounds enough to reject Him?

Not to mention all the wrongs committed by Communists who traded god for an allegedly atheistic and scientific ideology.
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« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2015, 04:36:55 AM »
Highly visible and successful European team becomes perennial losers after dumping the Cross emblem on it's unifrom.

Is God truly a soccer (futbol) fan?

Apparently so; 8)

Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match

In the present sports season 2014/2015 the Spanish soccer team Real Madrid C. F. lost every major soccer competition it was contesting: Champions League (European League), Copa del Rey (the Spanish championship) and the Spanish League. In each of these there were hopes that Real Madrid would win. In fact Real Madrid was first in the Spanish League for a considerable period of the competition.

It is my opinion that this happened because of the fact that Real Madrid F.C. took off the Cross of Christ from its emblem, in order to not “offend” the Club’s Muslim sponsors, precisely in this season.  Here is why I think so:



4 – And last, but not least: While Real Madrid took the Cross out of the emblem, Barcelona actually has a cross on its emblem. And it is not a common cross without significance. It’s the cross of St. George, the 4th century Christian martyr soldier.

I think it was God’s way of showing people that those who deny Him before man will be punished.



Sincerely,

Rafael Centeio

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/real-madrid-removes-the-christian-cross-and-loses-every-major-match/
I'm glad to see they ditched the charade of being a Christian sports team. Now the world will see what they really are.
And maybe they could adopt the crescent moon for an emblem and change their name to Real Cordoba while they're at it.
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« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2015, 04:48:59 AM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Because they're placating idiots.

I don't support what they did. I just reject the idea that whether or not they win in their cosmically-insignificant sport is a sign of divine approval or rejection. My God doesn't roll that way.



Besides... every true Christian knows that Jesus is a rugby fan ;)
Do you wear a Cross at work?

If you're boss told you stop wearing it tommorrow because he's a Muslim and it offends him,.

Would you?

I would not remove it and I don't think Real Madrid should have removed theirs. My only beef is with the silly idea that God rewards good Christian sports teams with wins and punishes bad ones with losses. That's an infantile concept.
I was kind of being facetious of divine intervention on the soccer field, but the fact of the matter is, is that you see this paranoia about the display of the cross everywhere these days, especially the Crucifix, this scares the hell (literally) out of some people. You are seeing the elimination of all vestiges of Christianity being wiped out everywhere, especially in Europe, the one time stronghold of the Christain faith. Now they're throughly being paganized again and ashamed of their Christian heritage.

Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Now they cowtow and grovel to these same Saracens who might be "offended" by the mere sight of the cross who just might have backed one of their major, highly visible sports teams with a few shekels. It's pathetic.
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« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2015, 04:55:55 AM »
your god

Did you become an atheist or a hindu?

The god that Charles believes in is not a god I believe in, that is why I didn't use capital letter.
Thank God..... ;D
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2015, 05:00:45 AM »
There used to be a Real Cordoba, the precursor of the modern team. ::)

Frankly, I don't see why anyone gets in such a lather over this. Football clubs are not Christian youth organisations, not any more than countries with crosses on their flags are Christian nations.
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« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2015, 05:21:37 AM »
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Really? didn't know that. Were they from Spain? What was their emblem?

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Frankly, I don't see why anyone gets in such a lather over this. Football clubs are not Christian youth organisations, not any more than countries with crosses on their flags are Christian nations.
If that's the case, then why bother removing the cross if it means nothing anyway?

Even if you're not a "christian" nation, why must you remove a symbol that's been part of your heritage for over a millenium?

Whether you like to admit it or not, most Christian nations that we know of today were founded on Christianity.

Removing the cross off their flags/unifroms is like Israel removing the star of David (not the rainbow one) off  theirs because it might "offend" and opposing team of nation.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2015, 05:32:34 AM »
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Really? didn't know that. Were they from Spain? What was their emblem?

The same as the modern Cordoba CF.

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Frankly, I don't see why anyone gets in such a lather over this. Football clubs are not Christian youth organisations, not any more than countries with crosses on their flags are Christian nations.
If that's the case, then why bother removing the cross if it means nothing anyway?

Even if you're not a "christian" nation, why must you remove a symbol that's been part of your heritage for over a millenium?

Whether you like to admit it or not, most Christian nations that we know of today were founded on Christianity.

Removing the cross off their flags/unifroms is like Israel removing the star of David (not the rainbow one) off  theirs because it might "offend" and opposing team of nation.

'But we always did it that way!' is not a good enough reason to continue a custom that has become meaningless. The Real Madrid logo only goes back to 1931. Most modern flags are products of the 19th century - late 18th, tops. Not exactly 'heritage for over a millennium'.

You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something. I don't expect to find Christianity in a football club. Rather, given all the dirt taking place behind the glitz of sport, I'd rather not see the cross associated with it at all.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2015, 09:30:30 AM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa? 
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2015, 09:39:11 AM »
Real Madrid means Royal Madrid. The cross is in the logo because the Crown of Alfonso XII, like most European crowns, has a cross on it; the logo of Madrid prominently features Alfie's Crown.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2015, 09:41:05 AM »
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There used to be a Real Cordoba, the precursor of the modern team
Really? didn't know that. Were they from Spain? What was their emblem?

The same as the modern Cordoba CF.

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Frankly, I don't see why anyone gets in such a lather over this. Football clubs are not Christian youth organisations, not any more than countries with crosses on their flags are Christian nations.
If that's the case, then why bother removing the cross if it means nothing anyway?

Even if you're not a "christian" nation, why must you remove a symbol that's been part of your heritage for over a millenium?
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Whether you like to admit it or not, most Christian nations that we know of today were founded on Christianity.

Removing the cross off their flags/unifroms is like Israel removing the star of David (not the rainbow one) off  theirs because it might "offend" and opposing team of nation.

'But we always did it that way!' is not a good enough reason to continue a custom that has become meaningless. The Real Madrid logo only goes back to 1931. Most modern flags are products of the 19th century - late 18th, tops. Not exactly 'heritage for over a millennium'.

You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something. I don't expect to find Christianity in a football club. Rather, given all the dirt taking place behind the glitz of sport, I'd rather not see the cross associated with it at all.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2015, 10:13:10 AM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa?
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« Reply #74 on: June 16, 2015, 05:15:49 AM »
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The same as the modern Cordoba CF.

Well they didn't last long;

Real Club Deportivo Córdoba is a defunct Spanish football team from Córdoba, Andalusia. Real Córdoba was founded in 1929 and dissolved in 1954.



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'But we always did it that way!' is not a good enough reason to continue a custom that has become meaningless.
So the cross of St. George is now "meaningless". sorry, to many it's more than just a "custom".

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The Real Madrid logo only goes back to 1931
" Only " 1931?

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Most modern flags are products of the 19th century - late 18th, tops. Not exactly 'heritage for over a millennium'.

And most are representitive of that nation's heritage dating back through that very same millenium. Do you really believe that modern flags within the past few centuries have nothing to do with a nation/people's past? How about the Israeli star of David? Go tell a Jew that flag and it's emblem is quite passe and" meaningless."

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You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something.
The cross has meaning no matter where it is. Why do you think so many atheists and pagans despise the very sight of it.

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I don't expect to find Christianity in a football club
Well, you'd be wrong. Many people do not leave their Faith in the lockeroom before the game. You are falling into this fallacy that you have to separate your religion from everywhere else in the world and it only belongs in a church on Sundays. That is a bogus proposition.

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. Rather, given all the dirt taking place behind the glitz of sport, I'd rather not see the cross associated with it at all.
Plenty of dirt talking right here on a Christian forum. It's human nature sometimes during debate or competition.

And besides that, what about all the atheletes that don't get too enmeshed in all the trash-talk, glitz and hype in the sport and actually conduct themselves as good examples of men and Christians?
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #75 on: June 16, 2015, 05:16:26 AM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa?
Because that's where they came from.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #76 on: June 16, 2015, 05:26:07 AM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa?
Because that's where they came from.

That's exactly right. Islam is foreign to Europe and a product of violent invasions.

Politically correct stooges refuse to acknowledge this fact. Ask anyone in the Balkans and Iberia  if they wanted Islam and the answer is NO!

Next thing you know, greeks will be asked to remove the cross from their flag for fear of offending them.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #77 on: June 16, 2015, 06:12:56 AM »
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The same as the modern Cordoba CF.

Well they didn't last long;

Real Club Deportivo Córdoba is a defunct Spanish football team from Córdoba, Andalusia. Real Córdoba was founded in 1929 and dissolved in 1954.

Hence the 'used to be' bit.

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'But we always did it that way!' is not a good enough reason to continue a custom that has become meaningless.
So the cross of St. George is now "meaningless". sorry, to many it's more than just a "custom".

Ironically, given the state of the CofE, its status as official state religion does give the UK a valid claim to being a Christian state, even though the population majority either belongs to other churches/religions or is entirely irreligious.

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The Real Madrid logo only goes back to 1931
" Only " 1931?

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Most modern flags are products of the 19th century - late 18th, tops. Not exactly 'heritage for over a millennium'.

And most are representitive of that nation's heritage dating back through that very same millenium. Do you really believe that modern flags within the past few centuries have nothing to do with a nation/people's past? How about the Israeli star of David? Go tell a Jew that flag and it's emblem is quite passe and" meaningless."

The past is unchangeable (unfortunately), but doesn't bind the present, otherwise flags wouldn't change. There are plenty of majority, even officially, Christian countries without crosses on their flags - so what? As for the Star of David, should I ask a Jew or an Israeli? The two are not the same thing.

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You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something.
The cross has meaning no matter where it is. Why do you think so many atheists and pagans despise the very sight of it.

Because they associate it with a set of values that so many Christians fail miserably to uphold. If you're not up to the requirements of your emblem, don't use it.

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I don't expect to find Christianity in a football club
Well, you'd be wrong. Many people do not leave their Faith in the lockeroom before the game. You are falling into this fallacy that you have to separate your religion from everywhere else in the world and it only belongs in a church on Sundays. That is a bogus proposition.

Hardly. How many of those athletes into well-publicised PDP (public displays of piety) belong to clubs with crosses in their logos?

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. Rather, given all the dirt taking place behind the glitz of sport, I'd rather not see the cross associated with it at all.
Plenty of dirt talking right here on a Christian forum. It's human nature sometimes during debate or competition.

And besides that, what about all the atheletes that don't get too enmeshed in all the trash-talk, glitz and hype in the sport and actually conduct themselves as good examples of men and Christians?

Sports organisations are much more than their athletes. Don't you watch actual news at all?
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #78 on: June 16, 2015, 10:33:12 AM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa?
Because that's where they came from.

LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight. 
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #79 on: June 16, 2015, 10:37:52 AM »
And most are representitive of that nation's heritage dating back through that very same millenium. Do you really believe that modern flags within the past few centuries have nothing to do with a nation/people's past?



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You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something.
The cross has meaning no matter where it is. Why do you think so many atheists and pagans despise the very sight of it.

Oddly enough, it doesn't seem to deter pornographers and other unsavoury sorts. 

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I don't expect to find Christianity in a football club
Well, you'd be wrong. Many people do not leave their Faith in the lockeroom before the game. You are falling into this fallacy that you have to separate your religion from everywhere else in the world and it only belongs in a church on Sundays synagogue on Saturday. That is a bogus proposition.

Yup, bogus.  :P
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #80 on: June 16, 2015, 11:06:49 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #81 on: June 16, 2015, 11:20:51 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #82 on: June 16, 2015, 11:27:58 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.

I'd be surprised if Charles ever saw a single match of football (not handegg) in his entire life.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #83 on: June 16, 2015, 11:31:56 AM »
Soccer (or football for you Europeans) is a fun game to play and a painful game to watch.
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« Reply #84 on: June 16, 2015, 11:33:38 AM »
a fun game to play and a painful game to watch.

It's a fun game to watch (depending on the game) if you have more patience than someone on cocaine.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #85 on: June 16, 2015, 11:34:12 AM »
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You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something.
The cross has meaning no matter where it is. Why do you think so many atheists and pagans despise the very sight of it.

Because they associate it with a set of values that so many Christians fail miserably to uphold. If you're not up to the requirements of your emblem, don't use it.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #86 on: June 16, 2015, 11:59:16 AM »
a fun game to play and a painful game to watch.

It's a fun game to watch (depending on the game) if you have more patience than someone on cocaine.

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #87 on: June 16, 2015, 12:02:52 PM »
a fun game to play and a painful game to watch.

It's a fun game to watch (depending on the game) if you have more patience than someone on cocaine.
Why would you not do cocaine when you are watching sports? That takes all the fun out of it!
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« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2015, 07:04:48 PM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa?
Because that's where they came from.

LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.
What maps? Moors are/were from North Africa.

What on earth are you talking about?
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« Reply #89 on: June 16, 2015, 07:06:00 PM »
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You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something.
The cross has meaning no matter where it is. Why do you think so many atheists and pagans despise the very sight of it.

Because they associate it with a set of values that so many Christians fail miserably to uphold. If you're not up to the requirements of your emblem, don't use it.
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And it's not something to be ashamed of either.

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« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2015, 07:18:21 PM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.

I'd be surprised if Charles ever saw a single match of football (not handegg) in his entire life.
I don't really watch much until the world cup. But I thoroughly enjoyed Italy beating France about ten yrs ago.

I really enjoyed this classic headbutt by Zindane.........what a butt-head.

He basically blew it for the French at that point;

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« Reply #91 on: June 16, 2015, 07:20:59 PM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #92 on: June 16, 2015, 07:43:38 PM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.

The blog suggests it was based off another piece, but it still reads like the author is a disgruntled RM fan trying to pin the blame for their team not winning the Champions League, and blundering majorly in the process. All the tournaments allegedly (not really) lost take place in Europe, where the team still goes on under their original logo.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #93 on: June 16, 2015, 07:51:18 PM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa?
Because that's where they came from.

LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.
What maps? Moors are/were from North Africa.

What on earth are you talking about?

I saw "Islam" above and thought you were talking about the religion/its adherents generally.  Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #94 on: June 16, 2015, 10:18:58 PM »
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You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something.
The cross has meaning no matter where it is. Why do you think so many atheists and pagans despise the very sight of it.

Because they associate it with a set of values that so many Christians fail miserably to uphold. If you're not up to the requirements of your emblem, don't use it.
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And it's not something to be ashamed of either.
If you actually are a Christian...
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« Reply #95 on: June 16, 2015, 10:23:49 PM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.
I guess if you wish to read them that way, which you've certainly shown is not beneath you... I, however, don't see anyone advocating that we placate Muslims or showing themselves paranoid of the Cross. I just think we see you as off base in your conclusions.
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« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2015, 04:29:26 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.

The blog suggests it was based off another piece, but it still reads like the author is a disgruntled RM fan trying to pin the blame for their team not winning the Champions League, and blundering majorly in the process. All the tournaments allegedly (not really) lost take place in Europe, where the team still goes on under their original logo.
Well I think his point is that they removed the Cross anywhere is an affront to Christ and have not really been successful since. While other teams that have kept the Cross have become champions. I guess he leaves it up to your own interpretation of these events.;


And guess what… “2014/15 UEFA Champions League final started at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin, Germany. La Liga giants Barcelona… crowned Triple Crown..” (http://www.inews163.com). «Triple Crown» refers to winning the whole 3-competition set common in european soccer: the national league, the national championship and the Champions League. So, the team that had the Cross removed was beaten by the one which kept the Cross — and this one was crowned with the Triple Crown. That for me was a sign that not only are those who are ashamed of the Cross going to be punished, but also, those who bear it will be rewarded and ultimately crowned.


http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/real-madrid-removes-the-christian-cross-and-loses-every-major-match/
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #97 on: June 18, 2015, 04:32:58 AM »
Even in one time Catholic Spain, a RC powerhouse for centuries, which was under the suppression of Islam for hundreds of years under the Moors and fought valiantly to kick them out of the Iberian peninsula and into North Africa  where they belong.

Why do they belong in North Africa?
Because that's where they came from.

LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.
What maps? Moors are/were from North Africa.

What on earth are you talking about?

I saw "Islam" above and thought you were talking about the religion/its adherents generally.  Sorry for the confusion.
I don't think you can really separate" Islam" from the "Moors" either .

Islam is a pestilence and has no place in Europe as well.
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You might want to see crosses everywhere. I'd rather see them where they actually mean something.
The cross has meaning no matter where it is. Why do you think so many atheists and pagans despise the very sight of it.

Because they associate it with a set of values that so many Christians fail miserably to uphold. If you're not up to the requirements of your emblem, don't use it.
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The Cross of Christ is not a vanity item.
And it's not something to be ashamed of either.
If you actually are a Christian...
Spain has been Catholic for centuries.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #99 on: June 18, 2015, 04:38:53 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.
I guess if you wish to read them that way, which you've certainly shown is not beneath you... I, however, don't see anyone advocating that we placate Muslims or showing themselves paranoid of the Cross. I just think we see you as off base in your conclusions.
We can agree to disagree on my conclusions.

I just thought  the article brought forth some interesting aspects of religious embelms in the sporting arena and how the culture is becoming more paganized as it begins to back away from it's Christian heritage in all venues.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #100 on: June 18, 2015, 05:12:27 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.

The blog suggests it was based off another piece, but it still reads like the author is a disgruntled RM fan trying to pin the blame for their team not winning the Champions League, and blundering majorly in the process. All the tournaments allegedly (not really) lost take place in Europe, where the team still goes on under their original logo.
Well I think his point is that they removed the Cross anywhere is an affront to Christ and have not really been successful since. While other teams that have kept the Cross have become champions. I guess he leaves it up to your own interpretation of these events.;


And guess what… “2014/15 UEFA Champions League final started at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin, Germany. La Liga giants Barcelona… crowned Triple Crown..” (http://www.inews163.com). «Triple Crown» refers to winning the whole 3-competition set common in european soccer: the national league, the national championship and the Champions League. So, the team that had the Cross removed was beaten by the one which kept the Cross — and this one was crowned with the Triple Crown. That for me was a sign that not only are those who are ashamed of the Cross going to be punished, but also, those who bear it will be rewarded and ultimately crowned.


http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/real-madrid-removes-the-christian-cross-and-loses-every-major-match/

My own interpretation of the events is that which team wins a tournament depends on how well they play and/or how successfully they rig it. ::)

Barcelona is the second-biggest Spanish team, and national titles pretty much alternate between them and RM, with the occasional wedge-in from one of the others. There is absolutely nothing unusual, let alone oracular, about Barcelona winning. ::)

I suspect that, if Juventus (which has no cross) had won the Champions League final instead, that blog would've never been written.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #101 on: June 18, 2015, 11:12:45 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.
I guess if you wish to read them that way, which you've certainly shown is not beneath you... I, however, don't see anyone advocating that we placate Muslims or showing themselves paranoid of the Cross. I just think we see you as off base in your conclusions.
We can agree to disagree on my conclusions.
And we can disagree to agree on your conclusions.

I just thought  the article brought forth some interesting aspects of religious embelms in the sporting arena and how the culture is becoming more paganized as it begins to back away from it's Christian heritage in all venues.
I suppose if that's what you want to do, you could have chosen a more mainstream article that's much more credible than the highly inaccurate piece of claptrap you quoted in the OP.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #102 on: June 18, 2015, 10:02:14 PM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.

The blog suggests it was based off another piece, but it still reads like the author is a disgruntled RM fan trying to pin the blame for their team not winning the Champions League, and blundering majorly in the process. All the tournaments allegedly (not really) lost take place in Europe, where the team still goes on under their original logo.
Well I think his point is that they removed the Cross anywhere is an affront to Christ and have not really been successful since. While other teams that have kept the Cross have become champions. I guess he leaves it up to your own interpretation of these events.;


And guess what… “2014/15 UEFA Champions League final started at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin, Germany. La Liga giants Barcelona… crowned Triple Crown..” (http://www.inews163.com). «Triple Crown» refers to winning the whole 3-competition set common in european soccer: the national league, the national championship and the Champions League. So, the team that had the Cross removed was beaten by the one which kept the Cross — and this one was crowned with the Triple Crown. That for me was a sign that not only are those who are ashamed of the Cross going to be punished, but also, those who bear it will be rewarded and ultimately crowned.


http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/real-madrid-removes-the-christian-cross-and-loses-every-major-match/

My own interpretation of the events is that which team wins a tournament depends on how well they play and/or how successfully they rig it. ::)

Barcelona is the second-biggest Spanish team, and national titles pretty much alternate between them and RM, with the occasional wedge-in from one of the others. There is absolutely nothing unusual, let alone oracular, about Barcelona winning. ::)

I suspect that, if Juventus (which has no cross) had won the Champions League final instead, that blog would've never been written.
You might as well roll your eyes on God having any influence on anything in the matieral world.

The Cross means nothing. I get it.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #103 on: June 18, 2015, 10:05:37 PM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.
I guess if you wish to read them that way, which you've certainly shown is not beneath you... I, however, don't see anyone advocating that we placate Muslims or showing themselves paranoid of the Cross. I just think we see you as off base in your conclusions.
We can agree to disagree on my conclusions.
And we can disagree to agree on your conclusions.

I just thought  the article brought forth some interesting aspects of religious embelms in the sporting arena and how the culture is becoming more paganized as it begins to back away from it's Christian heritage in all venues.
I suppose if that's what you want to do, you could have chosen a more mainstream article that's much more credible than the highly inaccurate piece of claptrap you quoted in the OP.
Yea right......"mainstrream".

What's that supposed to mean?


Give me an example of something "mainstream".


Anyway, it was an opinion piece for the most part.


Just like most of "mainstream".
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #104 on: June 18, 2015, 10:08:28 PM »
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« Reply #105 on: June 18, 2015, 10:14:19 PM »
Looks more like a small crick...  8)

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« Reply #106 on: June 18, 2015, 10:16:53 PM »
How dare you insult the stream! It is a main stream, good sir, not some silly tributary!  >:(
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #107 on: June 19, 2015, 03:09:12 AM »
LOL, you want to talk about flags when you can't get your maps straight.

He can't count either.
Seems as if Real Madrid is winning or drawing more matches this season than they're losing. Even in the Copa del Rey and the Supercopa, they had a W-L-T record of 2-2-2. Of course, we can't blame Charles for not being able to count, unless he actually wrote the blog article he cited. All we can safely blame Charles for is failing to verify that the blog post had its facts straight before choosing to post it here as "evidence". Either way, though, Charles ends up with egg on his face.
I didn't write the blog and I don't really follow RM or euro soccer.

I was just making a point about placating Muslims and being paranoid of the cross.

Obviously we have some sanctimonious christians on here who are guilty of both.

The blog suggests it was based off another piece, but it still reads like the author is a disgruntled RM fan trying to pin the blame for their team not winning the Champions League, and blundering majorly in the process. All the tournaments allegedly (not really) lost take place in Europe, where the team still goes on under their original logo.
Well I think his point is that they removed the Cross anywhere is an affront to Christ and have not really been successful since. While other teams that have kept the Cross have become champions. I guess he leaves it up to your own interpretation of these events.;


And guess what… “2014/15 UEFA Champions League final started at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin, Germany. La Liga giants Barcelona… crowned Triple Crown..” (http://www.inews163.com). «Triple Crown» refers to winning the whole 3-competition set common in european soccer: the national league, the national championship and the Champions League. So, the team that had the Cross removed was beaten by the one which kept the Cross — and this one was crowned with the Triple Crown. That for me was a sign that not only are those who are ashamed of the Cross going to be punished, but also, those who bear it will be rewarded and ultimately crowned.


http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/real-madrid-removes-the-christian-cross-and-loses-every-major-match/

My own interpretation of the events is that which team wins a tournament depends on how well they play and/or how successfully they rig it. ::)

Barcelona is the second-biggest Spanish team, and national titles pretty much alternate between them and RM, with the occasional wedge-in from one of the others. There is absolutely nothing unusual, let alone oracular, about Barcelona winning. ::)

I suspect that, if Juventus (which has no cross) had won the Champions League final instead, that blog would've never been written.
You might as well roll your eyes on God having any influence on anything in the matieral world.

The Cross means nothing. I get it.

I suspect God is subtler than that.

But what do I know? Jeremiah did wonder why the ways of the wicked prosper, but he was just an old whiner anyway.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #108 on: June 19, 2015, 05:34:12 AM »
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I suspect God is subtler than that.

  Why must an all-powerful, ever-present and knowing God be "subtle" at all?

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But what do I know? Jeremiah did wonder why the ways of the wicked prosper, but he was just an old whiner anyway.
All the prophets were as far as the rogue kings of Israel were concerned.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #109 on: June 19, 2015, 06:12:12 AM »
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I suspect God is subtler than that.

  Why must an all-powerful, ever-present and knowing God be "subtle" at all?

I didn't say He must. I said He is.

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But what do I know? Jeremiah did wonder why the ways of the wicked prosper, but he was just an old whiner anyway.
All the prophets were as far as the rogue kings of Israel were concerned.

They (and Jeremiah in particular) were also right.
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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #110 on: June 19, 2015, 06:25:30 AM »
"The Lord said, 'Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the Lord, for the Lord is about to pass by.' Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave. Then a voice said to him, 'What are you doing here, Elijah?'" - 1 Kings 19:11-13

Though that's not an answer to 'why?' but only 'is God like that sometimes?'...   8)

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #111 on: June 23, 2015, 11:46:03 AM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?

Yeah, I remember when Nazareth played Jerusalem in the finals.....what was that score...?

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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2015, 11:48:10 AM »
Highly visible and successful European team becomes perennial losers after dumping the Cross emblem on it's unifrom.

Is God truly a soccer (futbol) fan?

Apparently so; 8)

Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match

In the present sports season 2014/2015 the Spanish soccer team Real Madrid C. F. lost every major soccer competition it was contesting: Champions League (European League), Copa del Rey (the Spanish championship) and the Spanish League. In each of these there were hopes that Real Madrid would win. In fact Real Madrid was first in the Spanish League for a considerable period of the competition.

It is my opinion that this happened because of the fact that Real Madrid F.C. took off the Cross of Christ from its emblem, in order to not “offend” the Club’s Muslim sponsors, precisely in this season.  Here is why I think so:



4 – And last, but not least: While Real Madrid took the Cross out of the emblem, Barcelona actually has a cross on its emblem. And it is not a common cross without significance. It’s the cross of St. George, the 4th century Christian martyr soldier.

I think it was God’s way of showing people that those who deny Him before man will be punished.



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Re: Real Madrid removes the Christian Cross and loses every major match..
« Reply #113 on: June 23, 2015, 11:54:00 AM »
"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. "Matt 10:33

Or at least you'll be in last place.

So you think losing a bunch of soccer games signals that God has denied you?
No. But why ditch the Cross?

Im looking forward to all soccer (football) teams to remove even the most rudimentary, innocent, unplanned  looking cross from their uniforms. They cant use their arms or hands, that's a start.