Yes that's exactly what I meant... We... all of us. I also never questioned it until it was pointed out to me.
Not me, nor anyone I know.
It could be many, but not in my life.
As far as I am aware (maybe some Russian Orthodox can correct me) some Russian Icons from either XVIII or XIX centuries have been deemed "overly influenced' by the west; mostly due to Peter "The Greats" wish to "westernise Russia". Now I am not sure about that; but I am sure that as far as The Orthodox Church is concerned, Lord was not white with blue eyes. Now, in the Orthodox Church Catholicity of the Church goes long way (that is what was believed by the whole Church, everywhere and always). So, those Russian Icons (and some of them do go against rules of Iconography) do not represent what is held by the Church, and indeed what is held by the Russian Orthodox Church.
I am not an expert, but I think that the way to clean up the Church from heterodox ideas is not to develop new heterodox ideas, but to return to Orthodox ones, whether we talk about Icons or Theological Methodology, or whatever else.
Okay, it isn't offensive of you to say this in connection with the black eyed peas guy... but not with a Jesus depicted as a black man with dreads or an Afro! Jesus is Jesus, nothing changes if he's depicted like that! And well I guess that there are more than enough stupid people with blond hair and blue eyes I could make a connection with... I hope you know what I mean.
I agree, but exactly for this reason, I do not think that Orthodox Church has to become a field where me and you will argue about colour of the Lord, because I am a Serb and you an Ethiopian... LOL
Lets have a war, and who wins he gets to choose!
Please, trust me, I am the first one to argue the point that Lord was not White with blue eyes; that does make me angry. It comes mostly from RC and Protestants. Now, I am not the person that can talk about these groups. I do feel negative towards alot of things that come from the west. Their Religious Art is one of those things. Especially what comes from USA as far as Religious Expression of non-Orthodox is concerned.
Yes, this is absolutely true... but even in Orthodox tradition there are different ways of portraying our Lord and Saviour and his Blessed Mother. look at http://www.jerusalem-gifts.com/index.html?target=Orthodox_Russian_GiftsWood_Icons.html
On some of them Jesus is blond. So the tradition doesn't seem to say anything about the colour of Jesus and Mary (be it eye, hair or skin color)... does it? Well maybe it's different in the different orthodox churches...
Again, I do not find those Russian Icons (or any other Orthodox Icons of "that western feel" to them) to be Orthodox, that is done the way that it was done at any time BEFORE Peter the Great.
The church doesn't seem to have a teaching on that, does it?
Well, it does. It is called Orthodox Iconography. Now I am not sure about the rules, but it seems logical to me that those rules MUST BE VERY CLEAR. Why? Well, if for 1800 years all Orthodox Iconographers practiced Iconography one way, and the it was suddenly changed (by some in minority of places) then it must be obvious that these "some" have done it wrong. It comes (as far as I know) from Russian Tzar Peter the Great, who wanted to westernise Russia, because he thought that Russians were to backward, so he introduced many Protestant (Lutheran) and Roman Catholic ideas into the country. Some of them, find their way into Orthodox Church. But this does not mean that all Orthodox (and all Russian Orthodox) supported/support this trend.
And yes, I guess I'm Orthodox (although I don't know very much about my religion... I want to learn and that's why I'm here...)
Well, that is great, I love making friends by arguing with them and insulting them...I am an idiot...
I really apologise if anything that I wrote is offensive.
I deleted some of my stupid and idiotic coments (I am sorry I wrote that comparison with BEP in the first place),
I should've thought about what I write before I write it.
Please forgive if there is anything that I wrote that offends you.