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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #225 on: April 25, 2015, 02:41:23 PM »
This is the Coptic convent in Ohio. HG Bishop Botros is their spiritual founder.

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« Reply #226 on: April 25, 2015, 06:22:43 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #227 on: April 25, 2015, 11:05:33 PM »
This is the Coptic convent in Ohio. HG Bishop Botros is their spiritual founder.

I love that place...I've visited there a few times.  The nuns are very kind.

Please tell me you've had their cookies or pickles.

I've had their cookies or pickles.

















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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #228 on: April 26, 2015, 12:29:42 AM »
This is the Coptic convent in Ohio. HG Bishop Botros is their spiritual founder.

I love that place...I've visited there a few times.  The nuns are very kind.

Please tell me you've had their cookies or pickles.

I've had their cookies or pickles.

















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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #229 on: April 26, 2015, 06:52:49 PM »
Preparation for the Consecration of Holy Chrism (Mooron), started today at St. Ephrem's Monastery in Maarat Saidnaya, a village outside Damascus. The mixing of ingredients started with Ramsho (Evening Prayers) today.





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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #230 on: April 26, 2015, 07:00:12 PM »
Awesome, I didn't know HH was going to do it this year.  I hope there will be good videos. 
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #231 on: April 26, 2015, 07:10:11 PM »
Awesome, I didn't know HH was going to do it this year.  I hope there will be good videos.

So do I. I'd love to see them when they are out.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #232 on: April 26, 2015, 07:30:32 PM »
Syrians consecrate the Holy Myron on a day other than Holy Thursday? What occasion is it?
Also, is HH's beard getting bushier?
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #233 on: April 26, 2015, 07:38:28 PM »
Syrians consecrate the Holy Myron on a day other than Holy Thursday? What occasion is it?

Though the traditional day for consecrating Chrism is Holy Thursday, it is often done nowadays on another date for the sake of convenience.  Neither is it done every year, but only every few years or so (but I think the Syrians have lately taken to consecrating smaller quantities more often). 
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #234 on: April 27, 2015, 11:57:36 AM »
Syrians consecrate the Holy Myron on a day other than Holy Thursday? What occasion is it?
Also, is HH's beard getting bushier?

Looks like it is getting bushier. Such is the way of hierarchs. Cool to see him rolling up his sleeves and doing tangible holy work. Doesn't in any way invalidate the intangible holy work he does, but it's still cool to see.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #235 on: April 27, 2015, 12:20:01 PM »
I'm curious about the rather high profile the Maronite Patriarch seems to have had.  I don't recall seeing any other Eastern Catholic leaders from the region (except perhaps the Armenian Catholic Patriarch), and Cardinal Koch seems to have been less visible.

Well from the looks of that one photo it seems he knows all the best jokes, so clearly he was invited to be the life of the party.  I mean, one would assume cracking up visibly the Syriac Patriarch and the Coptic Pope to the point where the former was nearly ROFLing takes some skill.
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« Reply #236 on: April 27, 2015, 04:34:03 PM »
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #237 on: April 27, 2015, 07:54:23 PM »
Everyone knows that the five boroughs is a long-running (since 1898) civic experiment in city government by, you guessed it, Newark.  In fact, it's more accurate to say that there is no New York.

So...does that mean that H.G. Anba David was actually enthroned for NJ and we just didn't realize it?

Please tell me you've had their cookies or pickles.

Ah, yes!

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #238 on: April 27, 2015, 08:34:46 PM »
Everyone knows that the five boroughs is a long-running (since 1898) civic experiment in city government by, you guessed it, Newark.  In fact, it's more accurate to say that there is no New York.

So...does that mean that H.G. Anba David was actually enthroned for NJ and we just didn't realize it?

Please tell me you've had their cookies or pickles.

Ah, yes!


Oh, I'm not saying that at all.  His Grace was enthroned to the Diocese of "New York".  No one is saying that the land and its people aren't real, but it's just Newark.

The cookies (I forgot which ones I had) were delicious.  And I had some pickled carrots, I think.  It's been a while.  I must order some soon.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #239 on: April 27, 2015, 08:46:47 PM »
Oh, I'm not saying that at all.  His Grace was enthroned to the Diocese of "New York".  No one is saying that the land and its people aren't real, but it's just Newark.

Awesome.  Now I really can't wait to meet Mor Ephrem, Newark's most famous resident on oc.net.

The cookies (I forgot which ones I had) were delicious.  And I had some pickled carrots, I think.  It's been a while.  I must order some soon.

But no coconut pickle treats covered in chocolate, huh?
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« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2015, 08:52:38 PM »
Oh, I'm not saying that at all.  His Grace was enthroned to the Diocese of "New York".  No one is saying that the land and its people aren't real, but it's just Newark.

Awesome.  Now I really can't wait to meet Mor Ephrem, Newark's most famous resident on oc.net.

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The cookies (I forgot which ones I had) were delicious.  And I had some pickled carrots, I think.  It's been a while.  I must order some soon.

But no coconut pickle treats covered in chocolate, huh?

I'm pretty sure I emailed them dozens of times asking for those, but no Indians in residence, I'm afraid.

I'm sure Mor hordes choco-coconut pickles all the time.
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« Reply #241 on: April 28, 2015, 10:41:15 AM »
I don't mind honestly if HG's diocese extended into NJ. I'm really jealous about that :P
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« Reply #242 on: April 28, 2015, 05:30:29 PM »
I don't mind honestly if HG's diocese extended into NJ. I'm really jealous about that :P

Me too!  Sit New England down and bring us in off the bench.
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« Reply #243 on: April 29, 2015, 02:36:28 PM »
From the memorial service held for the New Ethiopian Martyrs of Libya held at Medhane Alem Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church of New York City



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« Reply #244 on: April 29, 2015, 03:31:20 PM »
dhinnus, could you please link to the source of the group photo?  Are there more?  In terms of the visiting clergy, I see (l to r):

??? (Greek? Antiochian? OCA?)
Mor Silvanos Ayub (Knanaya)
Bishop David (Coptic)
Archbishop Zekarias (Ethiopian)
Metropolitan Kuriakose Mar Theophilos (Malankara)
Fr. Simeon Odabashian (Armenian)
??? (Malankara?)
??? (Catholic?)
Fr. Nathanael Symeonides (Greek)

Any idea who the unidentified guys are?
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« Reply #245 on: April 29, 2015, 03:37:40 PM »
Everyone knows that the five boroughs is a long-running (since 1898) civic experiment in city government by, you guessed it, Newark.  In fact, it's more accurate to say that there is no New York.

So...does that mean that H.G. Anba David was actually enthroned for NJ and we just didn't realize it?

Please tell me you've had their cookies or pickles.

Ah, yes!


Oh, I'm not saying that at all.  His Grace was enthroned to the Diocese of "New York".  No one is saying that the land and its people aren't real, but it's just Newark.

Umm. Excuse me, HG Bishop David was enthroned to the Diocese of "New York and NEW ENGLAND". Regardless of what civic experiment NYC was, and whether it is the child of Newark, it is not as important as New England. (Yes, them be fighting words). Seriously, for the guys who brought on the Revolutionary war, the declaration of Independence, and Cheers, I expect some due respect.

The Diocese of New York and New England is blessed because of HG Bishop David and the Patriots, Red Sox, Celtics and Bruins. Period.

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« Reply #246 on: April 29, 2015, 04:36:04 PM »
New England doesn't count.  For all the propaganda ("shot heard 'round the world", yeah right!), if they really wanted independence, they wouldn't have "England" in their name.  No, New England is still, unfortunately, under the Crown.  Kind of like the Matrix.
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« Reply #247 on: April 29, 2015, 05:10:47 PM »
New England doesn't count.  For all the propaganda ("shot heard 'round the world", yeah right!), if they really wanted independence, they wouldn't have "England" in their name.  No, New England is still, unfortunately, under the Crown.  Kind of like the Matrix.
Hypocritical a little, coming from a city that has "York" in their name, named after the James, Duke of York and brother of Charles II King of England. Therefore, New York is still under the Crown too. And don't think Minasoliman is not under the Crown either. New Jersey was named Sir George Carteret's birthplace, Channel Island, Jersey in the English Channel.

Not to mention, Newark was started by Robert Treat and the New Haven Colony, which as you guessed it came from Pitmister, Somerset, ENGLAND. He emigrated to MASSACHUSETTS. So Newark and New Jersey is doubly England and owes its American identity doubly to Boston.


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« Reply #248 on: April 29, 2015, 05:57:57 PM »
New England doesn't count.  For all the propaganda ("shot heard 'round the world", yeah right!), if they really wanted independence, they wouldn't have "England" in their name.  No, New England is still, unfortunately, under the Crown.  Kind of like the Matrix.
Hypocritical a little, coming from a city that has "York" in their name, named after the James, Duke of York and brother of Charles II King of England. Therefore, New York is still under the Crown too. And don't think Minasoliman is not under the Crown either. New Jersey was named Sir George Carteret's birthplace, Channel Island, Jersey in the English Channel.

Not to mention, Newark was started by Robert Treat and the New Haven Colony, which as you guessed it came from Pitmister, Somerset, ENGLAND. He emigrated to MASSACHUSETTS. So Newark and New Jersey is doubly England and owes its American identity doubly to Boston.

He beat feet from Newark, because the awesomeness was too much.  Newark is a world apart.  "Doubly England" sounds like a marmite candy bar.  No matter the historical beginnings, neither "New York" or New Jersey are considered New England.  Although the spelling may be J-E-R-S-E-Y, everyone knows it is pronounced "Joyzee", which is something else completely.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #249 on: April 29, 2015, 06:02:08 PM »
It seems despite the origins of the name of our great state, it seems more associated with undereducated descendants of Italians disowned by Italians.  Yes, we are an orphan state, and an orphan diocese :P
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« Reply #250 on: April 29, 2015, 06:52:51 PM »
He beat feet from Newark, because the awesomeness was too much.  Newark is a world apart.  "Doubly England" sounds like a marmite candy bar.  No matter the historical beginnings, neither "New York" or New Jersey are considered New England.  Although the spelling may be J-E-R-S-E-Y, everyone knows it is pronounced "Joyzee", which is something else completely.
You may not be considered New England, but you copy everything from New England. Even your non-rhotic pronunciation of "Joyzee" is a plagiarized copy of Bostonian English. Although the spelling may be "No one is parking cars in Harvard Yard", everyone knows it is pronounced "No one's pahking cahs in Hahvuhd Yahd." So "fuhgeddaboudit" because it's not from Bensonhurst, it's from (educated Italians in) Boston. :P

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« Reply #251 on: April 29, 2015, 09:37:01 PM »
dhinnus, could you please link to the source of the group photo?  Are there more?  In terms of the visiting clergy, I see (l to r):

??? (Greek? Antiochian? OCA?)
Mor Silvanos Ayub (Knanaya)
Bishop David (Coptic)
Archbishop Zekarias (Ethiopian)
Metropolitan Kuriakose Mar Theophilos (Malankara)
Fr. Simeon Odabashian (Armenian)
??? (Malankara?) (This is Fr (Dr.)  Adai Jacob , Principal of MSOT Seminary, Udayagiri)
??? (Catholic?)
Fr. Nathanael Symeonides (Greek)

Any idea who the unidentified guys are?

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« Reply #252 on: April 30, 2015, 07:55:16 AM »
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« Reply #253 on: April 30, 2015, 02:13:06 PM »
From the International Conference on "Christians in the Middle East: What Future?" held at Bari, Italy



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« Reply #254 on: April 30, 2015, 02:23:08 PM »
Mor Theophilos (Metropolitan in charge) and Fr. Adai Jacob (Principal) of MSOT Seminary, Udayagiri India is visiting the US and they along with Mor Teethos (Archbishop of North America) visited St. Vladimir's Seminary . Photo taken with the "Malankara" community at St. Vladimir's

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« Reply #255 on: April 30, 2015, 02:58:29 PM »
Pardon me for not knowing this, but what is the reason for the red vestments?
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« Reply #256 on: April 30, 2015, 03:13:28 PM »
Pardon me for not knowing this, but what is the reason for the red vestments?

Bishops and archpriests, generally speaking, are allowed to wear "red" cassocks in the Syriac and Indian Churches. 
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« Reply #257 on: April 30, 2015, 03:16:04 PM »
Pardon me for not knowing this, but what is the reason for the red vestments?

Bishops and archpriests, generally speaking, are allowed to wear "red" cassocks in the Syriac and Indian Churches.

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« Reply #258 on: May 03, 2015, 08:09:34 PM »
Photos from the Syriac Orthodox ordinations to the minor orders of mzamrono (singer), qoruyo (reader) and apodyaqno (sub-deacon) in Germany.







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« Reply #259 on: May 03, 2015, 10:32:26 PM »
Why are the girls wearing a stole?  What does that represent?
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« Reply #260 on: May 03, 2015, 11:27:31 PM »
Why are the girls wearing a stole?  What does that represent?
The same reason why some of the boys are wearing a stole. It is because they are getting ordained to the minor order of mzamrono
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« Reply #261 on: May 03, 2015, 11:34:11 PM »
Why are the girls wearing a stole?  What does that represent?
The same reason why some of the boys are wearing a stole. It is because they are getting ordained to the minor order of mzamrono

So do all minor orders in the Syriac church wear the stole then?  This happens sometimes in the Coptic Church, that chanters wear stoles, but it is far from ancient.

Also, how far up the 'ladder' can Syriac women go today?  Are there female readers? Subdeacons?  Are there any restrictions on these roles compared to their male counterparts?
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #262 on: May 03, 2015, 11:48:56 PM »
The "women's stoles" are interesting. 

Technically, mzamrone (chanters) don't wear stoles.  I suspect the female chanters are not wearing a stole per se, but a sort of sash identifying them as members of a choir but made to look like a stole.  If it's an actual stole, it is a rather odd practice. 
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #263 on: May 04, 2015, 12:32:26 AM »
Technically, mzamrone (chanters) don't wear stoles. 

Per the following (scroll to the very bottom of the page).. mzamrone do wear the kutino without the uroro.
http://sor.cua.edu/Vestments/index.html

Is that incorrect information?
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #264 on: May 04, 2015, 12:34:22 AM »
Also, how far up the 'ladder' can Syriac women go today?  Are there female readers? Subdeacons?  Are there any restrictions on these roles compared to their male counterparts?

I am not familiar with any female readers or subdeacons... I believe they are ordained only upto singer.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #265 on: May 04, 2015, 12:37:09 AM »
Technically, mzamrone (chanters) don't wear stoles. 

Per the following (scroll to the very bottom of the page).. mzamrone do wear the kutino without the uroro.
http://sor.cua.edu/Vestments/index.html

Is that incorrect information?

No, it is correct.  A mzamrono wears a kutino (white robe) without an uroro (stole).  A mzamronitho should wear the same.  But it seems the Syrians have a variety of choir robes with shoulder sashes for their mzamronyotho (it's too late for me to think if that's the correct plural, but it sounds acceptable).  These photos are the closest to what the actual vesture should be, but those stoles are a problem.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #266 on: May 05, 2015, 03:52:16 PM »
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #267 on: May 06, 2015, 03:39:06 PM »
No, it is correct.  A mzamrono wears a kutino (white robe) without an uroro (stole).  A mzamronitho should wear the same.  But it seems the Syrians have a variety of choir robes with shoulder sashes for their mzamronyotho (it's too late for me to think if that's the correct plural, but it sounds acceptable).  These photos are the closest to what the actual vesture should be, but those stoles are a problem.

Sorry. I didn't realize that the English equivalent of uroro is stole. I see what you are saying. I don't think those girls are wearing an uroro.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #268 on: May 06, 2015, 03:46:23 PM »
No, it is correct.  A mzamrono wears a kutino (white robe) without an uroro (stole).  A mzamronitho should wear the same.  But it seems the Syrians have a variety of choir robes with shoulder sashes for their mzamronyotho (it's too late for me to think if that's the correct plural, but it sounds acceptable).  These photos are the closest to what the actual vesture should be, but those stoles are a problem.

Sorry. I didn't realize that the English equivalent of uroro is stole. I see what you are saying. I don't think those girls are wearing an uroro.

I don't think that's the intent, but the resemblance is there. 
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Picture of the Day
« Reply #269 on: May 06, 2015, 04:19:47 PM »
A rose by any other name...  They are wearing them in the style of Latin deacons but those are stoles.  The Assyrians and Chaldeans have been giving stoles to their women cantors and readers too.
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