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Offline Niko92

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Spinoza's God
« on: February 26, 2015, 01:57:11 AM »
Hi All,

Just finished reading up on Spinoza's God which Einstein seemed quite fond of too.

I just had a simple question in regards to your guys view of the way he looked at God and where he is differing from the view of Orthodox Christianity.

All answers all welcome would love to hear them all!

Nik

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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2015, 02:13:00 AM »
I have not read Spinoza, but recently I read a  quick line that Spinoza considered God to be impersonal.  Is that true?

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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2015, 02:31:06 AM »
Spinoza's God has as much to do with the God of odoxy as my socks do.

Niko, I am a little unclear are you xian? Cause if so, it should be clear that Spinoza isn't talking about something like the trinity. Haven't read him in a while although I getting ready to read him again though.

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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2015, 03:03:43 AM »
Thanks for that guys.

Yes Orthonorm i am but absolutely clueless about it !!

Just wanted peoples views on his view of God that was all. Apologies if it is naive of me.

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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2015, 03:10:39 AM »
Sorry Gamliel, something like that yes.

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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2015, 03:18:28 AM »
Niko, have you read Spinoza? Or just about his thought? The first section or so of his Ethics should make clear what his god isn't, if not what it is.

Being clear on what Spinoza's god isn't is fairly easy, figuring out what it is isn't.

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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 03:42:50 AM »
I have a good friend who admires Spinoza very much. A good friend who later converted to Gnosticism, I should add. At any rate, you ought always to do a great thinker the credit to read his own works. Secondary sources are probably okay to give a large overview of multiple sources, but secondary sources also warp primary sources, often badly (and often, the academy being a fitful mistress, even purposely so).
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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 05:02:52 AM »
I've read a fair bit about him and his views I think however you said it well when you said it's hard to figure out what his God is.

I think that's more of what I was getting at.

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Re: Spinoza's God
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 05:35:25 AM »
I have a good friend who admires Spinoza very much. A good friend who later converted to Gnosticism, I should add. At any rate, you ought always to do a great thinker the credit to read his own works. Secondary sources are probably okay to give a large overview of multiple sources, but secondary sources also warp primary sources, often badly (and often, the academy being a fitful mistress, even purposely so).

What Gnostic group does he belong to?  I live not far from the Ecclesia Gnoatica which is run by the rather affable Bishop Hoeller.  I've never been of course and am opposed to Gnostics but Hoeller seems a nice chap and also has one of the most impressive credentials of an Episcopi vagante in terms of multiple lines of apostolic succession, and in his lineage is closely connected with the highly respectable and devout British Orthodox Metropolitan Seraphim of Glastonbury (Imbelieve he was ordained by a man ordained by the father or brother of Seraphim before Seraphim was received into the Coptic church, a man who was connected with the Society of Corporate Reunion, which hoped to join the Church of England to Rome by collecting as many distinct lines of apostolic succession as possible or something like that).
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