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Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« on: May 18, 2005, 09:10:02 AM »
This briliant masterpiece is now available in electronic format thanks to the efforts of Peter Farrington. For everything you want to know about Chalcedon, and everything you don't, this is the book to get: objective, well-balanced, well grounded and reasoned arguments made, and viewpoints posited.

http://www.britishorthodox.org/chalcedon.php

Enjoy,

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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 05:34:03 PM »
Quote from: EkhristosAnesti on May 18, 2005, 09:10:02 AM
This briliant masterpiece is now available in electronic format thanks to the efforts of Peter Farrington. For everything you want to know about Chalcedon, and everything you don't, this is the book to get: objective, well-balanced, well grounded and reasoned arguments made, and viewpoints posited.

http://www.britishorthodox.org/chalcedon.php

Enjoy,

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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 05:43:08 PM »
It been out of stock a lot on amazon.com as well and people charge a lot for used copies  :'(
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 05:44:39 PM »
Quote from: seekeroftruth777 on August 13, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
It been out of stock a lot on amazon.com as well and people charge a lot for used copies  :'(
I would give my left arm (which is basically useless) and my first-born (don't want kids anyway) for a copy of that book.
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2015, 05:58:28 PM »
Quote from: Severian on August 13, 2015, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: Justin Kissel on August 13, 2015, 05:51:44 PM
lulu and other places still have it in stock, don't they? :)

http://www.lulu.com/shop/father-vc-samuel/the-council-of-chalcedon-re-examined/paperback/product-194480.html
Must spend money *sheds tear*

wow Justin to the rescue I'm conflicted I just bought the Orthodox Study Bible( the one with Old and new Testament) and I have to be careful with money for two weeks but I want this book to give the Copts a fair shake to their side of the story. Ohh decisions, decisions :o
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2015, 06:28:00 PM »
Quote from: seekeroftruth777 on August 13, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
Quote from: Severian on August 13, 2015, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: Justin Kissel on August 13, 2015, 05:51:44 PM
lulu and other places still have it in stock, don't they? :)

http://www.lulu.com/shop/father-vc-samuel/the-council-of-chalcedon-re-examined/paperback/product-194480.html
Must spend money *sheds tear*

wow Justin to the rescue I'm conflicted I just bought the Orthodox Study Bible( the one with Old and new Testament) and I have to be careful with money for two weeks but I want this book to give the Copts OO a fair shake to their side of the story. Ohh decisions, decisions :o
FTFY ;)
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2015, 07:12:55 PM »
I gave mine away.
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2015, 07:45:48 PM »
Quote from: NicholasMyra on August 13, 2015, 07:12:55 PM
I gave mine away.

hmm so is it worth a read in your opinion? What your opinion of the book?
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2015, 09:14:54 PM »
And I thought everything on the internet lasted forever.
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2015, 10:41:05 PM »
Pretty sure I have that book back at my parents house.  However they are on the East Coast and I am roasting out here in Hawaii......
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2015, 10:41:29 PM »
Quote from: coptic orthodox boy on August 13, 2015, 10:41:05 PM
Pretty sure I have that book back at my parents house.  However they are on the East Coast and I am roasting out here in Hawaii......
Well, enjoy yourself :-)
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2015, 10:45:20 PM »
Haha well if i end up going back home and anyone still wants it let me know (perhaps beginning of next year)
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 11:02:18 PM »
So I got a question any other books been that has been done from the OO perspective on The Council of Chalcedon? or is V.C. Samuel is like the best source?
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2015, 11:05:47 PM »
Quote from: seekeroftruth777 on August 13, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
So I got a question any other books been that has been done from the OO perspective on The Council of Chalcedon? or is V.C. Samuel is like the best source?
The Council of Chalcedon and the Armenian Church is also supposed to be very good.
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2015, 11:06:58 PM »
There is a new book out now that is like 700+ pages by a Coptic priest Fr. Shenouda Maher, Christology and the Council of Chalcedon

I'm going to take a guess that probably every theological and historical argument against Chalcedon made would be in there in amazing detail
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2015, 11:07:17 PM »
Quote from: Severian on August 13, 2015, 11:05:47 PM
Quote from: seekeroftruth777 on August 13, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
So I got a question any other books been that has been done from the OO perspective on The Council of Chalcedon? or is V.C. Samuel is like the best source?
The Council of Chalcedon and the Armenian Church is also supposed to be very good.

Looks like I got some reading to do concerning both sides  8) thanks!
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2015, 11:08:19 PM »
Quote from: minasoliman on August 13, 2015, 11:06:58 PM
There is a new book out now that is like 700+ pages by a Coptic priest Fr. Shenouda Maher, Christology and the Council of Chalcedon

that should be fascinating and it's on amazon.com too! so much reading I got in stored  thanks Mina
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2015, 11:09:11 PM »
Quote from: coptic orthodox boy on August 13, 2015, 10:41:05 PM
I am roasting out here in Hawaii......

You poor man you...you should come back so that you do not suffer as much   :P
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2015, 11:40:44 PM »
Quote from: seekeroftruth777 on August 13, 2015, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: NicholasMyra on August 13, 2015, 07:12:55 PM
I gave mine away.

hmm so is it worth a read in your opinion? What your opinion of the book?
It's incredibly dense. If you have an unusual historical interest I'd recommend it, otherwise not.
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Re: Chalcedon Re-examined by Fr. V.C. Samuel
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2015, 12:11:22 AM »
Quote from: NicholasMyra on August 13, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
Quote from: seekeroftruth777 on August 13, 2015, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: NicholasMyra on August 13, 2015, 07:12:55 PM
I gave mine away.

hmm so is it worth a read in your opinion? What your opinion of the book?
It's incredibly dense. If you have an unusual historical interest I'd recommend it, otherwise not.

Thanks sounds up my alley for sure!
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