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« on: May 16, 2013, 03:15:29 PM »

In a totally random moment of brilliance, I want to know how you would describe different religions using movie characters.

I see Orthodoxy as the Ents in Lord of the Rings.  They are ancient, slow to do anything, very deliberate in all their actions, and end up saving Middle Earth despite having a profound dislike for the entire world around them.

Anyone else?  GOGOGO
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 04:55:31 PM »

I see orthodox hermits as a smaller version of Hagrid ;P;P;P With all love and joy for our orthodox brothers/sister who constantly pray for us. 100% that Hagrid prayed for Harry Potter to succeed in Hogwarts!!!
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 05:33:34 PM »

I imagine that the Roman Pope would be Sith Palpatine from Star Wars since they're both old men with a lot of power.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 05:58:35 PM »

I always thought the analog of Orthodoxy, or at least Byzantium, in LRR was Gondor. You have this faltering remnant of empire struggling against the barbarian hordes (Mordor = Islam). But the empire was no longer ruled by an emperor, so their rulers don't have the same legitimacy (royal line of Gondor had died out, now ruled by Stewards). This would reflect Tolkien's Catholic POV: Byzantium served an important purpose in defending Europe from the Muslims, but it wasn't totally legitimate because of the schism.

Of course, Tolkien would take me to task for allegorizing, but I can't help but notice such parallels. There's plenty of elements in the story that don't at all fit into this interpretation.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 07:12:48 PM »

I always thought the analog of Orthodoxy, or at least Byzantium, in LRR was Gondor. You have this faltering remnant of empire struggling against the barbarian hordes (Mordor = Islam). But the empire was no longer ruled by an emperor, so their rulers don't have the same legitimacy (royal line of Gondor had died out, now ruled by Stewards). This would reflect Tolkien's Catholic POV: Byzantium served an important purpose in defending Europe from the Muslims, but it wasn't totally legitimate because of the schism.

Of course, Tolkien would take me to task for allegorizing, but I can't help but notice such parallels. There's plenty of elements in the story that don't at all fit into this interpretation.

In the film, wasn't the rchitecture of Minas Tirith based on byzantine architecture? I think I read that somewhere.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 08:22:09 AM »

See, I imagined Orthodoxy as being the Ents.  Ancient, wise, bearded, conciliar.  It takes them ages to decide anything amongst themselves, though it does happen eventually, and just in time.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 08:32:24 AM »

Orthodoxy is Jango Fett. All the others are clones. Bobba Fett is the Roman church. People think he's cooler, he's got far more public view and fans, but still a clone.  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 08:38:56 AM »

I see the modern prosperity gospel Christians as the trolls in the Hobbit.  They aren't particularly bright and when they are exposed to the light, it is like talking to a stone statue.  Also, they are greedy.  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 02:49:49 PM »

I always saw the elves as being like Orthodoxy. You've got several different groups (elves in the Grey Havens, Elves in Rivendell, Elves in Mirkwood) that are all connected with one another. The elves also tend to be more wise and preserve a moral tradition in Middle Earth. They are less involved in the affairs of the world than other groups, but will fight when necessary.

Humans are like Roman Catholicism. They are larger and more prevalent, but also younger and more prone to passions. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 03:34:29 PM »

I imagine that the Roman Pope would be Sith Palpatine from Star Wars since they're both old men with a lot of power.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2013, 04:36:26 PM »

If Christian religions were the Avengers....

Orthodoxy would be Captain America: the First Avenger;

Non-Chalcedoneans would be Hawkeye and Black Widow.. not as big as the other ones, with not as much power, they hint they were together in the past, but no longer. Each work pretty well on their own though;

RC would be the Dr. Banner/Hulk: very brainy, maybe too much, he got angry with people around him and actually because of that he became too big and too strong. Because the others would call him a monster in that state, he prefers to be alone. In the beginning (Hulk movies) he was sort of uncontrollable and would "smash punny churches". Eventually the rational side takes hold of the power of the monster and he learns to work with his colleagues again, even acting as per the strategy of Captain America. That last part remains to be seen. Wink

Iron-Man is the Protestant churches, always changing its external armor (rules and doctrines) every movie to become ever more relevant effective and cool.

Thor would be Christian culture and civilization (not religion). In sheer raw power it's the most powerful, but it's his evil brother Loki (culture of greed, dominion and passion for centralized power) that is the villain of the movie trying to conquer the world and kill the Avengers.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 05:01:43 PM »

Well done, Fabio, those are brilliant!  Cool
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 05:04:29 PM »

Well done, Fabio, those are brilliant!  Cool

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2013, 05:33:02 PM »

Orthodoxy is Jango Fett. All the others are clones. Bobba Fett is the Roman church. People think he's cooler, he's got far more public view and fans, but still a clone.  Wink
Isn't Bobba Fett Jango's son?
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 05:54:21 PM »

Orthodoxy is Jango Fett. All the others are clones. Bobba Fett is the Roman church. People think he's cooler, he's got far more public view and fans, but still a clone.  Wink
Isn't Bobba Fett Jango's son?

A clone. Yet unaltered unlike the rest.
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2013, 08:36:09 PM »

Well done, Fabio, those are brilliant!  Cool

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That actually made sense...it would be good in a teen group discussion.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2013, 08:42:08 PM »

Perhaps the Orthodox are sort of like Luke Skywalker.  We must use our free will to choose between good and evil. Undecided
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