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Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« on: September 12, 2014, 08:49:45 PM »
For the past month or so, a rodent has been roaming my house and avoiding 6 baited traps (4 glue and 2 snap).  Short of getting a cat or resurrecting the Pied Piper, anyone have suggestions on how to trap this rodent?  Note that this rodent will be killed and will not be released at some distant point from the house....

This mouse has been seen in carpeted areas (avoiding the glue traps against the wall) and in the middle of the kitchen (dashes between the sofa, radiator, dishwasher).

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 08:51:25 PM »
What are you using as bait?
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2014, 08:53:57 PM »
What are you using as bait?

Peanut butter and (now) dried out feta cheese.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2014, 08:58:37 PM »
Dried feta? Ugh. Go back to the peanut butter, and/or bread. Failing that, a cat or a pest exterminator would be Plans B and C.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2014, 09:03:41 PM »
Do you have a Hindu temple near you?
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2014, 09:07:49 PM »
Do you have a Hindu temple near you?

Not in the immediate area.

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2014, 09:12:12 PM »
Do you have a Hindu temple near you?

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2014, 09:52:53 PM »
My cat kills rodents on occasion.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2014, 10:13:33 PM »
An airgun is the most obvious solution. You can get one for as cheaply as $20 at Walmart.

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2014, 10:26:40 PM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2014, 10:36:03 PM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

It's a mouse.  Right now, I have the traps in a triangular shape with one at each end of the radiator and one next to a table leg.  I think I need more traps.  I placed some bread on each glue trap.  Glue traps have worked before but they were flat rather than the raised ones currently in use.

I realize that the mouse is treating a glue trap as an obstacle except this mouse has memory of where things are located.  Getting a cat and/or paying for an exterminator is out of the question.

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2014, 02:43:30 AM »
Forget the feta and the bread - a small chunk of sharp cheddar cheese will be much more enticing.

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2014, 10:36:27 PM »
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Brain of a mouse that is quarter human
by PAUL KENDALL, Daily Mail

Scientists have produced laboratory mice in which a quarter of the brain cells are human.

...Researcher Irving Weissman, of Stanford University, said: 'It looks like human cells can follow the developmental instructions put in by the mouse brain. They are making human components in what is clearly a mouse brain.'

Professor Weissman said he was now considering an experiment in which he would inject human stem cells into the embryos of a mouse strain whose own brain cells were programmed to die as the animal develops.

'In that way we might be able to produce mice in which a vast majority of neurones are human,' he said.

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2014, 11:12:35 PM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

It's a mouse.  Right now, I have the traps in a triangular shape with one at each end of the radiator and one next to a table leg.  I think I need more traps.  I placed some bread on each glue trap.  Glue traps have worked before but they were flat rather than the raised ones currently in use.

I realize that the mouse is treating a glue trap as an obstacle except this mouse has memory of where things are located.  Getting a cat and/or paying for an exterminator is out of the question.

How big is this mouse? Sometimes small rats are mistaken for mice, but the little mouse traps are not designed for a rat.

I place a 3/8 to 1/2 inch square piece of cheddar cheese or bacon on the trap with a dab of peanut butter. Then I flame it quickly.

Within minutes, that mouse/rat is trapped. The smell of flaming bacon is irresistible.

After the mouse/rat is trapped and properly disposed, I cook the rest of the package of bacon for my husband.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2014, 12:17:08 AM »
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Brain of a mouse that is quarter human
by PAUL KENDALL, Daily Mail

Scientists have produced laboratory mice in which a quarter of the brain cells are human.

...Researcher Irving Weissman, of Stanford University, said: 'It looks like human cells can follow the developmental instructions put in by the mouse brain. They are making human components in what is clearly a mouse brain.'

Professor Weissman said he was now considering an experiment in which he would inject human stem cells into the embryos of a mouse strain whose own brain cells were programmed to die as the animal develops.

'In that way we might be able to produce mice in which a vast majority of neurones are human,' he said.

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I think this "mouse" escaped the lab.   :laugh:  The mouse was looking at me when it was under the stove.

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2014, 12:27:02 AM »
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Brain of a mouse that is quarter human
by PAUL KENDALL, Daily Mail

Scientists have produced laboratory mice in which a quarter of the brain cells are human.

...Researcher Irving Weissman, of Stanford University, said: 'It looks like human cells can follow the developmental instructions put in by the mouse brain. They are making human components in what is clearly a mouse brain.'

Professor Weissman said he was now considering an experiment in which he would inject human stem cells into the embryos of a mouse strain whose own brain cells were programmed to die as the animal develops.

'In that way we might be able to produce mice in which a vast majority of neurones are human,' he said.

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I think this "mouse" escaped the lab.   :laugh:  The mouse was looking at me when it was under the stove.


it was undoubtedly trying to ask you

'hey is that bacon you are cooking for me, done yet?'
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2014, 12:27:09 AM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

It's a mouse.  Right now, I have the traps in a triangular shape with one at each end of the radiator and one next to a table leg.  I think I need more traps.  I placed some bread on each glue trap.  Glue traps have worked before but they were flat rather than the raised ones currently in use.

I realize that the mouse is treating a glue trap as an obstacle except this mouse has memory of where things are located.  Getting a cat and/or paying for an exterminator is out of the question.

How big is this mouse? Sometimes small rats are mistaken for mice, but the little mouse traps are not designed for a rat.

I place a 3/8 to 1/2 inch square piece of cheddar cheese or bacon on the trap with a dab of peanut butter. Then I flame it quickly.

Within minutes, that mouse/rat is trapped. The smell of flaming bacon is irresistible.

After the mouse/rat is trapped and properly disposed, I cook the rest of the package of bacon for my husband.

Hopefully your husband doesn't get trapped by the smell of flaming bacon  :D

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2014, 12:33:51 AM »
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Brain of a mouse that is quarter human
by PAUL KENDALL, Daily Mail

Scientists have produced laboratory mice in which a quarter of the brain cells are human.

...Researcher Irving Weissman, of Stanford University, said: 'It looks like human cells can follow the developmental instructions put in by the mouse brain. They are making human components in what is clearly a mouse brain.'

Professor Weissman said he was now considering an experiment in which he would inject human stem cells into the embryos of a mouse strain whose own brain cells were programmed to die as the animal develops.

'In that way we might be able to produce mice in which a vast majority of neurones are human,' he said.

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I think this "mouse" escaped the lab.   :laugh:  The mouse was looking at me when it was under the stove.


it was undoubtedly trying to ask you

'hey is that bacon you are cooking for me, done yet?'

 :laugh:

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2014, 12:38:53 AM »
In regards to your mouse problem, I would again reiterate that an air gun is the most efficient way to deal with your mouse/rat problem. It is human, cheap, and safer. You don't have to worry about broken fingers from setting those traps. This C02 powered revolver is a favorite of mine that works well and can be used indoors.

http://www.crosman.com/airguns/pistols/3576W


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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2014, 12:45:25 AM »
In regards to your mouse problem, I would again reiterate that an air gun is the most efficient way to deal with your mouse/rat problem. It is human, cheap, and safer. You don't have to worry about broken fingers from setting those traps. This C02 powered revolver is a favorite of mine that works well and can be used indoors.

http://www.crosman.com/airguns/pistols/3576W

I don't want to destroy the house over a little mouse....

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2014, 12:51:43 AM »
In regards to your mouse problem, I would again reiterate that an air gun is the most efficient way to deal with your mouse/rat problem. It is human, cheap, and safer. You don't have to worry about broken fingers from setting those traps. This C02 powered revolver is a favorite of mine that works well and can be used indoors.

http://www.crosman.com/airguns/pistols/3576W

I don't want to destroy the house over a little mouse....

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2014, 12:59:03 AM »
Maria raises a good point.

Identify whether or not it's a rat or a mouse, because those tiny little mouse traps aren't designed for rats and while they will kill the latter, it's a much slower, crueler, and painfuller process. I learned this the hard way while working at a luxury apartment complex in urban Oakland that had a huge rat problem in the parking garage structure. It was so sad seeing those huge ugly rats spring the tiny mouse traps, and then frantically struggling on the floor for hours at a time before they finally died.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2014, 02:08:47 AM »
Maria raises a good point.

Identify whether or not it's a rat or a mouse, because those tiny little mouse traps aren't designed for rats and while they will kill the latter, it's a much slower, crueler, and painfuller process. I learned this the hard way while working at a luxury apartment complex in urban Oakland that had a huge rat problem in the parking garage structure. It was so sad seeing those huge ugly rats spring the tiny mouse traps, and then frantically struggling on the floor for hours at a time before they finally died.

Before we realized what type of rodents we had, two roof rats had sprung the small mouse traps and managed to get their noses lopped off. They were in a daze, but not dead by any means. We caught them with kitchen tongs (reserved for that purpose) before they came to, and then attempted to drown each one in a bucket of hot soapy water to put them out of their misery. One dunk and we witnessed their incredible will to survive. It became very messy with water and soap suds everywhere. We had to use hot soapy water because these miserable rodents were loaded with tiny fleas.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2014, 01:53:43 PM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

We've had great success with glue traps.  Just last week I caught 2 (two) mice on one little glue trap.  We have a drop ceiling in our basement and the little buggers keep finding ways in.  We also have three cats, but only one of which can be bothered to hunt.  He caught 3 the other evening!!  Seems we harbored a little family and some of them decided, quite unadvisedly, to come out and play.  They won't be doing that again!  ;D

I bait the glue traps with a tiny bit of bird seed.  When we hear something flopping about in the ceiling we know we've been successful.  Yes...they do work!
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2014, 03:31:50 PM »
My preferred method of mouse control is a barely domesticated barn cat, but in a pinch I prefer a double-combo of glue traps and bb-gun.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2014, 04:09:33 PM »
In regards to your mouse problem, I would again reiterate that an air gun is the most efficient way to deal with your mouse/rat problem. It is human, cheap, and safer. You don't have to worry about broken fingers from setting those traps.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2014, 08:24:41 PM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

We've had great success with glue traps.  Just last week I caught 2 (two) mice on one little glue trap.  We have a drop ceiling in our basement and the little buggers keep finding ways in.  We also have three cats, but only one of which can be bothered to hunt.  He caught 3 the other evening!!  Seems we harbored a little family and some of them decided, quite unadvisedly, to come out and play.  They won't be doing that again!  ;D

I bait the glue traps with a tiny bit of bird seed.  When we hear something flopping about in the ceiling we know we've been successful.  Yes...they do work!

Thanks for the useful information. I suspect our rodents train a couple of miles north of me in Camp Pendleton and compete in the yearly mud run. They just walk over those glue traps.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2014, 08:34:56 PM »
A cat may be of assistance. See, he's hungry. :)

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2014, 11:56:54 PM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

We've had great success with glue traps.  Just last week I caught 2 (two) mice on one little glue trap.  We have a drop ceiling in our basement and the little buggers keep finding ways in.  We also have three cats, but only one of which can be bothered to hunt.  He caught 3 the other evening!!  Seems we harbored a little family and some of them decided, quite unadvisedly, to come out and play.  They won't be doing that again!  ;D

I bait the glue traps with a tiny bit of bird seed.  When we hear something flopping about in the ceiling we know we've been successful.  Yes...they do work!

Thanks for the useful information. I suspect our rodents train a couple of miles north of me in Camp Pendleton and compete in the yearly mud run. They just walk over those glue traps.

To be effective, glue traps should be placed in operation only if the temperature is 68 degrees or higher.
Otherwise, rodents can walk all over the traps and not be caught as the traps have "iced" over and lost their stickiness.

I purchased one of those flea and mouse traps -- the kind that have a little Christmas tree bulb that is suspended over the glue trap. I have caught both fleas and mice in these traps. Two traps each had a young rat in them. I baited the center with peanut butter and the catch was almost instant as the peanut butter aroma pervaded the room.

The only difficulty was waiting for the rat/mouse to die. They were alive up to 12 hours after being immobilized. I did not want to get near the trap as they raised their heads, and I feared that they would bite. Their squeaks were sad to hear.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2014, 10:45:59 PM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

We've had great success with glue traps.  Just last week I caught 2 (two) mice on one little glue trap.  We have a drop ceiling in our basement and the little buggers keep finding ways in.  We also have three cats, but only one of which can be bothered to hunt.  He caught 3 the other evening!!  Seems we harbored a little family and some of them decided, quite unadvisedly, to come out and play.  They won't be doing that again!  ;D

I bait the glue traps with a tiny bit of bird seed.  When we hear something flopping about in the ceiling we know we've been successful.  Yes...they do work!

Thanks for the useful information. I suspect our rodents train a couple of miles north of me in Camp Pendleton and compete in the yearly mud run. They just walk over those glue traps.

To be effective, glue traps should be placed in operation only if the temperature is 68 degrees or higher.
Otherwise, rodents can walk all over the traps and not be caught as the traps have "iced" over and lost their stickiness.

I purchased one of those flea and mouse traps -- the kind that have a little Christmas tree bulb that is suspended over the glue trap. I have caught both fleas and mice in these traps. Two traps each had a young rat in them. I baited the center with peanut butter and the catch was almost instant as the peanut butter aroma pervaded the room.

The only difficulty was waiting for the rat/mouse to die. They were alive up to 12 hours after being immobilized. I did not want to get near the trap as they raised their heads, and I feared that they would bite. Their squeaks were sad to hear.

Out of curiosity, how do you even have mice, Maria? I always figured that with your reputation for being extraordinarily clean, hygienic, and healthy, you'd be the last person to have a mouse in your house. Are they more common where you live?

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2014, 11:26:10 PM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2014, 12:28:53 AM »
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My husband is interested in this idea.

Me too but doing it in the house seems risky.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2014, 12:30:23 AM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.

Does this make little mice statues ?
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2014, 01:22:11 AM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.

Does this make little mice statues ?

More like cement pellets.

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2014, 01:23:01 AM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.

Me too but doing it in the house seems risky.

He wants to use this method outside in bait traps so that raccoons, cats, and possums will not eat the sugar laced cement. The fluoride laced rat poison can kill cats and owls which eat the poisoned rats. 

If a cat or owl eats a cement laden rat, I guess by that time the cement will have hardened into pellets.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2014, 10:46:11 AM »
Where are you placing the traps? I also assume that you have confirmed that it is a mouse and not a rat based on what you wrote.

I have never had a glue trap work. I recently caught a rat with Italian dry salame. Peanut butter and/or cheese did not work. Only the trap placed in a corner out of visible site was effective.

We've had great success with glue traps.  Just last week I caught 2 (two) mice on one little glue trap.  We have a drop ceiling in our basement and the little buggers keep finding ways in.  We also have three cats, but only one of which can be bothered to hunt.  He caught 3 the other evening!!  Seems we harbored a little family and some of them decided, quite unadvisedly, to come out and play.  They won't be doing that again!  ;D

I bait the glue traps with a tiny bit of bird seed.  When we hear something flopping about in the ceiling we know we've been successful.  Yes...they do work!

Thanks for the useful information. I suspect our rodents train a couple of miles north of me in Camp Pendleton and compete in the yearly mud run. They just walk over those glue traps.

To be effective, glue traps should be placed in operation only if the temperature is 68 degrees or higher.
Otherwise, rodents can walk all over the traps and not be caught as the traps have "iced" over and lost their stickiness.

I purchased one of those flea and mouse traps -- the kind that have a little Christmas tree bulb that is suspended over the glue trap. I have caught both fleas and mice in these traps. Two traps each had a young rat in them. I baited the center with peanut butter and the catch was almost instant as the peanut butter aroma pervaded the room.

The only difficulty was waiting for the rat/mouse to die. They were alive up to 12 hours after being immobilized. I did not want to get near the trap as they raised their heads, and I feared that they would bite. Their squeaks were sad to hear.

Out of curiosity, how do you even have mice, Maria? I always figured that with your reputation for being extraordinarily clean, hygienic, and healthy, you'd be the last person to have a mouse in your house. Are they more common where you live?
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2014, 02:56:55 PM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.

Does this make little mice statues ?

Yeah...one's that look like dead mice  :D.  The problem with killing mice in the house is you'd better have access to the traps that kill them or know where they've gone to die and be able to remove them.  Otherwise, the aroma of dead mice will begin to permeate your living space.  We once had a mouse that somehow got stuck in the wall.  Eventually it died.  Not long thereafter, the stench was pretty horrible.  Luckily it only lasted a week or two, if I recall correctly.  Ugh!
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2014, 03:37:09 PM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.

Does this make little mice statues ?

Yeah...one's that look like dead mice  :D.  The problem with killing mice in the house is you'd better have access to the traps that kill them or know where they've gone to die and be able to remove them.  Otherwise, the aroma of dead mice will begin to permeate your living space.  We once had a mouse that somehow got stuck in the wall.  Eventually it died.  Not long thereafter, the stench was pretty horrible.  Luckily it only lasted a week or two, if I recall correctly.  Ugh!

We had a rat die in the garage somewhere. Flies took care of it, but there were flies everywhere, so we had to set out some fly traps.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2014, 04:13:08 PM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.

Does this make little mice statues ?

Yeah...one's that look like dead mice  :D.  The problem with killing mice in the house is you'd better have access to the traps that kill them or know where they've gone to die and be able to remove them.  Otherwise, the aroma of dead mice will begin to permeate your living space.  We once had a mouse that somehow got stuck in the wall.  Eventually it died.  Not long thereafter, the stench was pretty horrible.  Luckily it only lasted a week or two, if I recall correctly.  Ugh!

We had a rat die in the garage somewhere. Flies took care of it, but there were flies everywhere, so we had to set out some fly traps.
My wife's grandmother has an old antebellum house. One time a rat died between the ceiling and the attic, and even though the smell wasn't so bad for those on the floor, they began to notice when the decomposing rat started oozing through the ceiling.
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
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It conjures up the horrifying scenario of a human brain trapped inside an animal's body. The original study involved isolating human stem cells - the 'mother cells' that can develop into any other type of cell - and then introducing them into mice.

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
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It conjures up the horrifying scenario of a human brain trapped inside an animal's body. The original study involved isolating human stem cells - the 'mother cells' that can develop into any other type of cell - and then introducing them into mice.

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Human brain trapped in human body can be scary enough!

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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
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It conjures up the horrifying scenario of a human brain trapped inside an animal's body. The original study involved isolating human stem cells - the 'mother cells' that can develop into any other type of cell - and then introducing them into mice.

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Only if the brain and the body are alive.  Then it can be downright terrifying and discouraging. ;D  Just look at the "Politics" sub-forum if you need proof. :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Eeek!!!! mouse too smart for traps....
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2014, 10:39:36 PM »
One elderly neighbor said he knew an exterminator during the depression that had great success with a half and half mixture of sugar and concrete.



My husband is interested in this idea.

Does this make little mice statues ?
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