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OCYM Abu Dhabi is organising “Gurusmarana” – Vaidikarude Vaidikan Fr. Dr. V.C Samuel Anusmaranam” - a programme in memoriam to Fr. Dr. V.C Samuel, the greatest Christologian of 20th Century on 15th November 2013 after the Divine Liturgy at St George Orthodox Cathedral, Abu Dhabi.





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I think Fr. Dr. Samuel was the one who wrote The Council of Chalcedon Re-Examined.  He is an amazing author.  I'm glad he is being commemorated.

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 02:27:42 AM »
Axios! Axios! Axios! Peniot VC Samuel PiHegumenous (i think he was a hegumen).

May his memory be eternal!
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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 09:42:30 AM »
Lord, grant good remembrance to thy faithful servant!

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 11:10:01 AM »
I think Fr. Dr. Samuel was the one who wrote The Council of Chalcedon Re-Examined.  He is an amazing author.  I'm glad he is being commemorated.

He was, and his book should be required reading for anyone, on any side of the issue, seeking to truly understand what happened.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 12:22:42 PM »
He looks like a Russian priest to me. Maybe he was a closet-Chalcedonian after all.

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 12:49:30 PM »
He looks like a Russian priest to me. Maybe he was a closet-Chalcedonian after all.

TIL wearing a cross makes you look like a Russian priest. :P

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 12:50:52 PM »
He looks like a Russian priest to me. Maybe he was a closet-Chalcedonian after all.

Read his book and then tell me what you think.  Imelda Marcos never had a closet that deep.  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2013, 12:54:46 PM »
He looks like a Russian priest to me. Maybe he was a closet-Chalcedonian after all.

TIL wearing a cross makes you look like a Russian priest. :P

Exorasson, beard, cross and kamilavka surely does.

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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2013, 12:58:53 PM »
Fr. V.C. Samuel was an Orthodox Priest and a God-send. May his prayers be for us all :).

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013, 01:04:40 PM »
He looks like a Russian priest to me. Maybe he was a closet-Chalcedonian after all.

TIL wearing a cross makes you look like a Russian priest. :P

Exorasson, beard, cross and kamilavka surely does.

Is there any Orthodox church that doesn't have those four as part of their clerical attire? I know Copts and Armenians have a similar "street wear" for their priests, the only major difference I can think of being slightly different kamilavkas.


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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2013, 01:18:31 PM »
Is there any Orthodox church that doesn't have those four as part of their clerical attire? I know Copts and Armenians have a similar "street wear" for their priests, the only major difference I can think of being slightly different kamilavkas.

That's new to me. Is it hellenization or just geneal Eastern tradition?

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2013, 02:23:46 PM »
Is there any Orthodox church that doesn't have those four as part of their clerical attire? I know Copts and Armenians have a similar "street wear" for their priests, the only major difference I can think of being slightly different kamilavkas.

That's new to me. Is it hellenization or just geneal Eastern tradition?

I'm not sure but I would tend to go with general Eastern tradition in this case.

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2013, 02:25:33 PM »
Is there any Orthodox church that doesn't have those four as part of their clerical attire? I know Copts and Armenians have a similar "street wear" for their priests, the only major difference I can think of being slightly different kamilavkas.

That's new to me. Is it hellenization or just geneal Eastern tradition?

I'm curious: what kind of clothing did you think our clergy wore? 
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2013, 02:29:28 PM »
I don't know. Maybe something more colorful? Something not so seemingly Byzantine at least.

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2013, 02:34:40 PM »
I don't know. Maybe something more colorful? Something not so seemingly Byzantine at least.

I think the only colorful clerical attires we have are Syriac-rite bishops who wear red cassocks in their own jurisdictions. Other than that it's pretty much all black except for India, where white is sometimes used because of the heat.

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2013, 03:56:06 PM »
I don't know. Maybe something more colorful? Something not so seemingly Byzantine at least.

One of my seniors in seminary is a priest whose good friend (a fellow classmate) is now a Finnish priest.  When he wears a black rasso, hat, and cross, ought I question why he's dressed like an Indian?  :P
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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2013, 04:42:52 PM »
I don't know. Maybe something more colorful? Something not so seemingly Byzantine at least.

One of my seniors in seminary is a priest whose good friend (a fellow classmate) is now a Finnish priest.  When he wears a black rasso, hat, and cross, ought I question why he's dressed like an Indian?  :P

Why of course. Ethnic disputes are fun. There are even Olympics of Orthodox Unity in Jerusalem every year.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2013, 04:55:58 PM »
I love those Olympics!
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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2013, 11:54:04 PM »
I don't know. Maybe something more colorful? Something not so seemingly Byzantine at least.

One of my seniors in seminary is a priest whose good friend (a fellow classmate) is now a Finnish priest.  When he wears a black rasso, hat, and cross, ought I question why he's dressed like an Indian?  :P

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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2013, 01:18:14 PM »
"Twain shall Meet" Book on Fr. Dr. V. C. Samuel released by Dr. Yakob Mar Iraneos at Abu Dhabi

Abu Dhabi: Fr. V. C. Jose Chemmanam, Vicar, St. George Cathedral, Abu Dhabi compiled the unpublished articles on and by Fr. Dr. V. C Sameul, renown Church Theologian who bridged the gulf of fifteen hundred years in World Christianity since 451 A. D. after the Council of Chalcedon. The compilation which is christened as 'The Twain shall meet" was a dream project of Fr. Jose in connection to his 25th year of Priestly Ordination.

http://catholicatenews.in/catagories/item/1671-twain-shall-meet-book-on-fr-dr-v-c-samuel-released-by-dr-yakob-mar-iraneos-at-abu-dhabi
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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2013, 05:54:59 PM »
"Twain shall Meet" Book on Fr. Dr. V. C. Samuel released by Dr. Yakob Mar Iraneos at Abu Dhabi

Abu Dhabi: Fr. V. C. Jose Chemmanam, Vicar, St. George Cathedral, Abu Dhabi compiled the unpublished articles on and by Fr. Dr. V. C Sameul, renown Church Theologian who bridged the gulf of fifteen hundred years in World Christianity since 451 A. D. after the Council of Chalcedon. The compilation which is christened as 'The Twain shall meet" was a dream project of Fr. Jose in connection to his 25th year of Priestly Ordination.

http://catholicatenews.in/catagories/item/1671-twain-shall-meet-book-on-fr-dr-v-c-samuel-released-by-dr-yakob-mar-iraneos-at-abu-dhabi

That is awesome…I'll keep an eye out on amazon when it comes out (unless it's already out elsewhere?)
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2013, 08:48:47 AM »
That is awesome…I'll keep an eye out on amazon when it comes out (unless it's already out elsewhere?)

I assume it'll be published in India. Maybe someone with a connection to the old country....

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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2013, 09:17:20 AM »
Help us Mor, you're our only hope <-c'mon, if that's not sig material!

LOL, are you intentionally trying to get into my sig?  Let all faithful OCNetters follow your good example.  :)

I also presume it will be published in India and most likely not available on Amazon.  I'll see what I can figure out in terms of how to get the book.  But we do have other Indians here who actually live there, so I hope they will chime in as well. 
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Re: Fr Dr V C Samuel to be Commemorated by Indian Orthodox Youth Movement
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2013, 06:43:22 PM »
I'm going to India this January for a cousin's wedding so I can stop by some bookstores to see if it's available.

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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2013, 08:46:18 AM »
I'm going to India this January for a cousin's wedding so I can stop by some bookstores to see if it's available.

Wonderful. If it's not too much trouble and you happen to find it, please purchase a copy for me. I'll, of course, pay you for the book & shipping expenses. Enjoy your time there!

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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2013, 09:33:51 AM »
Same here!!

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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2013, 11:36:51 AM »
Add me to the list!
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2013, 11:56:52 AM »
All right, I'll be sure to take a look around the bookstores I know. No guarantees on anything though. :P

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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2013, 03:38:43 PM »
Maybe you should just buy a box of fifty and run your own fundraiser, sheenj.  :P
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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2013, 04:44:59 PM »
Maybe you should just buy a box of fifty and run your own fundraiser, sheenj.  :P

Please, I'm going with my parents. There's no way we would have enough space in our 8 suitcases for those all those books. As it is right now, I'll probably have to smuggle some books on my person in order to stay under the maximum allotted weight.
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« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2013, 04:49:14 PM »
If you ever meet the person putting together this book, tell him to make it available online, or sell it online.  Why talk about it and not make it available?  Why must he kill us with the suspense of the writings of Fr. VC Samuel? Whyyyyyyyyyy…

But if you can smuggle them that would suffice too  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2013, 04:55:45 PM »
Sheenj, in that case, nevermind. I know how much of pain it is to travel is now. The last thing you need is to lug around a bunch of books.

I'm sure there will be some Indian Churches here that will eventually get copies to sell. Thank you & do have a great time.
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« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2013, 05:11:17 PM »
Sheenj, in that case, nevermind. I know how much of pain it is to travel is now. The last thing you need is to lug around a bunch of books.

I'm sure there will be some Indian Churches here that will eventually get copies to sell. Thank you & do have a great time.

Oh don't worry, I was just making a joke about how Indians like my parents try stuff the two pieces of free luggage allotted to the maximum. We'll definitely have enough space on the return trip for 3 books.  :)

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« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2013, 06:28:00 PM »
Oh don't worry, I was just making a joke about how Indians like my parents try stuff the two pieces of free luggage allotted to the maximum. We'll definitely have enough space on the return trip for 3 books.  :)

Can we make it four, please?

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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2013, 06:37:20 PM »
I got an idea. If you can get permission from the author, perhaps you can scan and upload it. Or I can do it if too much work.
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