The Orthodox are just minions of the state, and if the state isn't Orthodox, it is a minion of whoever is in charge
Then we should have all welcomed those who submitted at Florence back with open arms, then, shouldn't we?
The Donation of Mussolini.
The Orthodox should have disappeared long ago from Transylvania, the Latin Hungarians and Austrians being in charge
Didn't happen in Serbia either, although it should have in your universe. Not through lack of trying.
Speaking of being minions of whoever is in charge.
The Orthodox should have been minions of the government of the First Republic of Poland,first daughter of the Vatican. Instead, its last Great Sejm were in a desperate hurry to let the Orthodox organize the Church of Poland, which was increasing, not declining:http://books.google.com/books?id=TlQQdbfi_v0C&pg=PA307&dq=%22the+sejm+to+establish+an+Orthodox+hierarchy,+Coercion+was+useless%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vbfuU4a_J9WsyATPmICQBg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22the%20sejm%20to%20establish%20an%20Orthodox%20hierarchy%2C%20Coercion%20was%20useless%22&f=false
Orthodoxy should not have returned at all in West Ukraine
Language Total Roman Catholics Greek Catholics Eastern Orthodox Evangelical(Luthern) Other Christian Jewish Other
Polish 21,993,000 20,333,000 487,000 497,000 219,000 55,000 372,000 30,000
Ukrainian/Belarusian 6,278,000 107,000 2,845,000 3,239,000 9,000 73,000 1,000 4,000
Lithuanian 83,000 83,000 - - - - - -
Czech 38,000 8,000 - 22,000 6,000 1,000 - -
German 741,000 118,000 - 599,000 16,000 7,000 1,000
Yiddish 2,732,000 - - - - - 2,731,000 1,000
Other 50,000 20,000 4,000 4,000 2,000 3,000 17,000
Total 31,915,000 20,670,000 3,336,000 3,762,000 835,000 145,000 3,114,000 53,000
Odd, given the bond between the original Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Rus' that no Orthodox or GC Lithuanians are recorded, but almost half a million Poles each are (the numbers were actually higher-the 1931 is admitted to have counted down minorities of all sorts. Which, of course is why the Second Polish Republic ended up like the First Polish Republic-in oblivion).
And yet it did, if it ever left.
Nor should the region, Bucovina, of the New Metropolitan (and hopefully soon Patriarch) of Kiev, have been the near exclusive Orthodox land it was-being under the Habsburgs, minions of the Vatican.
Nor should have the Czechslovak Orthodox Church come back into existence.
after the minions of the Vatican suppressed the rites of Orthodoxy. St. Gorazd the Neo-Martyr, pray for us!
with a big dose of ethnocentrism mixed in.
Rather rich, given your ecclesiastical community tries to pass off Nestorianism, Miaphysitism and Orthodoxy as "ethnic differences," and insisted that any Orthodox who succumbs to the Vatican's lure must be enrolled in its "sui juris" originating in a schism from their Mother Church, until very recently its Latin cardinals outranked its purported patriarchs in their own "patriarchates," and the code of canon law for its Eastern ecclesiastical communities was issued in Latin.
And then those three (used to be four) patriarchs the Vatican appoints for Antioch, based on ethnicity.
Not attractive in the modern world
The modern world can have what it finds attractive.
but a good explanation why so many Orthodox have such a bad attitude about the Catholic Church
now that would be self-hating.
and the Pope
we love the Pope.
Many Years Pope Theodore II!
reminders that the church isn't an ethnic club but is the company of the saints from all races and groups on earth.
Ah! Frustrated Ultramontanism! what happens when your infallible supreme pontiff upon whom you pin all your hopes, ex cathedra puts his imprimatur on all you find repugnant!. Leads to fits of irrational rage and projection on the Orthodox, especially after the failed attempt to bring your Vatican rules to your Orthodox monastery (to paraphrase the great Russian people) to get away from your NO mass.