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Jose Planas Moreno has brought parishioners flocking back to the Nuestra Señora del Carmen church in Campanilla, a district of Malaga, with his unusual style of worship.
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The 66-year-old curate delights the faithful by dancing the sevillanas – a traditional dance linked to flamenco – in the aisle of the church during mass.
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"Something happens when I dance," said Father Pepe, who explained that flamenco is in his blood because his mother was a gipsy.

"I love it. It brings me closer to God," he told Diario Sur, the local Malaga newspaper.

In 1997, Father Pepe, who will retire in September, danced in front of the late Pope John Paul II at the Vatican.

¡Ay, caramba!
If you will, you can become all flame.
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Jose Planas Moreno has brought parishioners flocking back to the Nuestra Señora del Carmen church in Campanilla, a district of Malaga, with his unusual style of worship.
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The 66-year-old curate delights the faithful by dancing the sevillanas – a traditional dance linked to flamenco – in the aisle of the church during mass.
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"Something happens when I dance," said Father Pepe, who explained that flamenco is in his blood because his mother was a gipsy.

"I love it. It brings me closer to God," he told Diario Sur, the local Malaga newspaper.

In 1997, Father Pepe, who will retire in September, danced in front of the late Pope John Paul II at the Vatican.

¡Ay, caramba!

O Brother!!  I just had to find out if there was a video out yet and I found one on Huff Post.  Not what I expected . . .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/28/flamenco-priest_n_5627158.html

Everyone . . to the fellowship hall afterwards for tapas and Sangria!!  Ole!

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Sigh...




BTW, if news like this keeps coming out today, I am going to sigh my self into generalized hypoxia.
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I was really hoping he would have a cassock to twirl.
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Hey, if dozens of bishops can do it poorly at World Youth Day, one priest can do it well in Spain!
You sound like a professional who knows what he's talking about.  That's because you are.

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I was really hoping he would have a cassock to twirl.
Is he not wearing a cassock here?
If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
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All of these attempts to make the Catholic Church seem hip are just embarrassing. It's like watching a middle-aged man dress like a teenager and try to twerk.
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What the article fails to mention is that this is his congregation:



They're flocking back, alright.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 03:18:34 PM by Antonis »
You sound like a professional who knows what he's talking about.  That's because you are.

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I was really hoping he would have a cassock to twirl.
Is he not wearing a cassock here?
Beautiful.

I guess in the other video he was wearing it but it was tucked up weirdly, making it look like a shirt-tunic hybrid.
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Reminds me of the Irish singing priest, the clown masses, etc.

It is all frankly idiotic. If someone needs therapy but doesn't want to go to the doctor taking them to the hospital to watch movies and thinking it is the same thing would be idiotic, and this is exactly like that.

Also, after watching the video it follows the same pattern of clown masses and giant demonic puppet masses... to be completely honest, everyone involved in them is more likely than not senile.
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I'm waiting for the pole-dancing nuns.  ::)
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

It's called the parish festival. We have two a year. We also have casino nights and cruises.

But we would never do anything tacky, like those awful Roman Catholics...

 ::)

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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

We have nonsense.  It's different, but it's still nonsense. 
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

It's called the parish festival. We have two a year. We also have casino nights and cruises.

But we would never do anything tacky, like those awful Roman Catholics...

 ::)

 :D
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If you listen carefully, you will hear the sound of a Traditionalist Catholic having a heart attack  :D ;D
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

No. If an Orthodox priest engaged in such irreverent nonsense during a Liturgy, he'd be swiftly hauled before his bishop for a "please explain".
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Speaking of flamenco, Mexican duo Rodrigo y Gabriela bring a heavy metal flavor to flamenco guitar. Their latest album is “9 Dead Alive.”
« Last Edit: August 01, 2014, 12:42:59 AM by Jetavan »
If you will, you can become all flame.
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Who doesn't like a good flamenco dance, eh? 
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Who doesn't like a good flamenco dance, eh?  

Certainly neither in church nor at a "holy" service!

Here is another video of a charismatic dancing priest:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203460572428717

Notice how happy and dissipated the congregation and celebrant seem. Oh, yes, people will flock to this kind of service. Yet, how can one truly pray in that kind of euphoric environment? Pure joy, you might mention, but what is the source of this joy?

What a difference in  the East!

Soberness, or joyful sorrow, is what distinguishes the Orthodox Church from the Roman Catholic Church.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 03:23:17 PM by Maria »
The memory of God should be treasured in our hearts like the precious pearl mentioned in the Holy Gospel. Our life's goal should be to nurture and contemplate God always within, and never let it depart, for this steadfastness will drive demons away from us. - Paraphrased from St. Philotheus of Sinai
Writings from the Philokalia: On Prayer of the Heart,
Translated from the Russian by E. Kadloubovksy and G.E.H. Palmer, Faber and Faber, London, Boston, 1992 printing.

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What the article fails to mention is that this is his congregation:



They're flocking back, alright.

What a magnificent but mindless flock!
The memory of God should be treasured in our hearts like the precious pearl mentioned in the Holy Gospel. Our life's goal should be to nurture and contemplate God always within, and never let it depart, for this steadfastness will drive demons away from us. - Paraphrased from St. Philotheus of Sinai
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Translated from the Russian by E. Kadloubovksy and G.E.H. Palmer, Faber and Faber, London, Boston, 1992 printing.

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What the article fails to mention is that this is his congregation:



They're flocking back, alright.

What a magnificent but mindless flock!

Many Orthodox parishes could be described in this way.
Mor has an open appeal. This we knew already.

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Who doesn't like a good flamenco dance, eh?  

Certainly neither in church nor at a "holy" service!

Here is another video of a charismatic dancing priest:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203460572428717

Notice how happy and dissipated the congregation and celebrant seem. Oh, yes, people will flock to this kind of service. Yet, how can one truly pray in that kind of euphoric environment? Pure joy, you might mention, but what is the source of this joy?

What a difference in  the East!

Soberness, or joyful sorrow, is what distinguishes the Orthodox Church from the Roman Catholic Church.
That dancing comes nowhere near the passion of flamenco.
If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
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What the article fails to mention is that this is his congregation:



They're flocking back, alright.

What a magnificent but mindless flock!

Many Orthodox parishes could be described in this way.

Yes, that is true. Many are called but few are chosen.
The memory of God should be treasured in our hearts like the precious pearl mentioned in the Holy Gospel. Our life's goal should be to nurture and contemplate God always within, and never let it depart, for this steadfastness will drive demons away from us. - Paraphrased from St. Philotheus of Sinai
Writings from the Philokalia: On Prayer of the Heart,
Translated from the Russian by E. Kadloubovksy and G.E.H. Palmer, Faber and Faber, London, Boston, 1992 printing.

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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

We have nonsense.  It's different, but it's still nonsense. 

How is OO nonsense like? Catholics got funny liturgies and we've got shirtless dictators but I don't think I've heard about OO nonsense.
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

We have nonsense.  It's different, but it's still nonsense. 

How is OO nonsense like? Catholics got funny liturgies and we've got shirtless dictators but I don't think I've heard about OO nonsense.

It doesn't exactly exist in English yet, and I'd like to keep it that way.  :P
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If you listen carefully, you will hear the sound of a Traditionalist Catholic having a heart attack  :D ;D

You found me in my throes of agony! And at only 19, too!  ;D
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

We have nonsense.  It's different, but it's still nonsense. 

How is OO nonsense like? Catholics got funny liturgies and we've got shirtless dictators but I don't think I've heard about OO nonsense.

It doesn't exactly exist in English yet, and I'd like to keep it that way.  :P
I've been longing to find a video of this since finding it on a Coptic site a while back.
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

We have nonsense.  It's different, but it's still nonsense. 

How is OO nonsense like? Catholics got funny liturgies and we've got shirtless dictators but I don't think I've heard about OO nonsense.

It doesn't exactly exist in English yet, and I'd like to keep it that way.  :P
I've been longing to find a video of this since finding it on a Coptic site a while back.
Angels and ministers of grace defend us. I remember singing that song in the liberal Protestant church I grew up in.
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Do the Orthodox ever have to deal with anything remotely similar to this?

We have nonsense.  It's different, but it's still nonsense. 


How is OO nonsense like? Catholics got funny liturgies and we've got shirtless dictators but I don't think I've heard about OO nonsense.

It doesn't exactly exist in English yet, and I'd like to keep it that way.  :P
I've been longing to find a video of this since finding it on a Coptic site a while back.
Angels and ministers of grace defend us. I remember singing that song in the liberal Protestant church I grew up in.

And once upon a visit with some friends to their local Anglican church as a child.
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