Massacre at Ligonier II? Archb. Demetrios being forced out a la Iakovos?

[pensateomnia]

that it is nigh impossible to understand the Christian faith if one does not know and use Greek and apply Greek or Hellenistic thought patterns...

The recovery of Orthodoxy's Hellenic-Patristic heritage has been one of the major achievements of many recent Orthodox theologians. In fact, it began because of a Russian, Fr. Georges Florovsky, who charted the course (in Russian!) in Putì Russkago Bogoslovija (The Path of Russian Theology). In it, he argues that all Russian Orthodox Christians should engage and challenge heterodoxy when they encounter it in the West, a task which requires them to know the "Hellenistic expression of Christianity" found in the first centuries, since such is essential to understanding the fullness of the Russian Orthodox tradition. Getting back to the Hellenic and Patristic roots was his proposed corrective to the Russian theology of the 19th century, which he argued was heavily influenced by German idealism, non-Patristic sources, and Roman Catholicism.

[podkarpatska]

Moderator: Any thoughts about moving this "omogenia" discussion to its own topic?

I agree, it seems off topic to me. I would only add that coming from neither a Russian or Greek  background I have a problem fully understanding either concept. How does either really relate to the mission of our Faith in a modern, pluralistic society comprised of all races and religions?

[pensateomnia]

I agree, it seems off topic to me.

Yes, it could be split off.

I would only add that coming from neither a Russian or Greek  background I have a problem fully understanding either concept.

Similar concepts exist in pretty much every Orthodox land. The Carpatho-Russians (and others from that area) might be the most prominent exception, for obvious reasons.

How does either really relate to the mission of our Faith in a modern, pluralistic society comprised of all races and religions?

The role of all religions -- and the nature of "identity" itself -- is uncertain and fluid in modern, pluralistic societies. Figuring out how to navigate these new waters with faithfulness to the Gospel and our Orthodox heritage is one of our greatest challenges.

[ialmisry]

If you visit the American Orthodox Institute web site, you will also find Greek-Americans boldly lamenting that the GOA is more into Greek nationalist aims than anything else.  I would start with the following article"Greek Ambassador: Hellenism and Orthodoxy is a foreign policy tool." http://www.aoiusa.org/blog/2009/05/greek-ambassador-hellenism-and-orthodoxy-is-a-foreign-policy-tool/

That "institute" is such a propagandistic joke...
It's more like a tabloid

Are you perhaps a bit ticked off?

Appeal from the Patriarch of Romania and a response

http://www.aoiusa.org/blog/2010/04/appeal-from-the-patriarch-of-romania-and-a-response/
Or is it that the aoi is such a Met. Jonah fan club?

[augustin717]

Only laudatory comments are allowed there. I tell you from my experience.

[Carl Kraeff (Second Chance)]

Only laudatory comments are allowed there. I tell you from my experience.

Are you the Mr. ALL CAPS?

[augustin717]

No. I've only attempted to comment once, but the ideological police didn't let the comment go through.

[franthonyc]

that it is nigh impossible to understand the Christian faith if one does not know and use Greek and apply Greek or Hellenistic thought patterns...

The recovery of Orthodoxy's Hellenic-Patristic heritage has been one of the major achievements of many recent Orthodox theologians. In fact, it began because of a Russian, Fr. Georges Florovsky, who charted the course (in Russian!) in Putì Russkago Bogoslovija (The Path of Russian Theology). In it, he argues that all Russian Orthodox Christians should engage and challenge heterodoxy when they encounter it in the West, a task which requires them to know the "Hellenistic expression of Christianity" found in the first centuries, since such is essential to understanding the fullness of the Russian Orthodox tradition. Getting back to the Hellenic and Patristic roots was his proposed corrective to the Russian theology of the 19th century, which he argued was heavily influenced by German idealism, non-Patristic sources, and Roman Catholicism.

Nice point.

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