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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #90 on: July 20, 2018, 09:14:22 PM »
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #91 on: July 20, 2018, 09:23:45 PM »

Quote Hecma :This is my first personal indoor plant.  So far, so good.  I have to figure out when to give it fertilizer.

Unless the soil is neut full ~ mix up a weak solution and give it each watering ~ if the leaves look full and well fed feed ~ when the plant is no longer producing new leaves feed more rarely ``` You can tell when a plant has a full tummy ```
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #92 on: July 20, 2018, 10:21:38 PM »
I have sixteen tomato plants, some grape, some cherry, some full size, some hierloom.

All are grown in cages thoroughly anchored with rebar stakes.

The plants have taught me much about theosis and Confession; for until their main stems grown higher than the tops of the cages they require almost daily attention to train them gently back inside of the cages rings.

The if the plant shoots a branch that want to grow outside of the rings it can only be trained gently, generally with a motion that follows the curvature of the rings.  A hard bend will break the stalk.

In the same manner our souls require constant attention, so that straying tendencies can be corralled and brought back before it is too late.

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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #93 on: July 20, 2018, 10:25:28 PM »
Why isn't MrRightReverend2u participating on this thread?

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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #94 on: July 20, 2018, 10:26:41 PM »

Quote Hecma :This is my first personal indoor plant.  So far, so good.  I have to figure out when to give it fertilizer.

Unless the soil is neut full ~ mix up a weak solution and give it each watering ~ if the leaves look full and well fed feed ~ when the plant is no longer producing new leaves feed more rarely ``` You can tell when a plant has a full tummy ```

Thank you.

Currently, I just give it water about twice a week and direct sunshine once a week.  Seems to be doing ok.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #95 on: July 20, 2018, 11:57:40 PM »
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2019, 01:36:20 PM »
Still haven't planted anything this year.  I've got a volunteer squash plant coming up, though.  And the strawberry patch is doing well...we'll see who gets to it first, the dog or the rabbits. 

I'm testing out the raised row method with county mulch and bagged soil.  We'll see.  That's one garden.  The other garden is a mess of weeds and grass.  I'm not sure it's going to get help this year.

I got a pothos plant for indoors.
Is that the one you only have to water once per week?

It needs a good watering and then allow the soil to get pretty dry....so, yes once or twice a week.  And it handles lower light situations pretty well but I leave it out in the sun once a week.
Pretty sure I killed one of those, then.  And bamboo.  House plants are not safe here...

This is my first personal indoor plant.  So far, so good.  I have to figure out when to give it fertilizer.
Is it still alive?
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2019, 02:21:16 PM »
I got a pothos plant for indoors.
Is that the one you only have to water once per week?

It needs a good watering and then allow the soil to get pretty dry....so, yes once or twice a week.  And it handles lower light situations pretty well but I leave it out in the sun once a week.
Pretty sure I killed one of those, then.  And bamboo.  House plants are not safe here...

This is my first personal indoor plant.  So far, so good.  I have to figure out when to give it fertilizer.
Is it still alive?

D-E-D
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #98 on: May 15, 2019, 04:17:49 PM »
The wife has planted two raised beds in one of our side yards that gets sun, and has built three more on the other side of the house. Right now our sun room is acting as a greenhouse. Based on how well they're doing now, the squash and tomatoes will explode with growth when they actually get in the ground.

She has also planted a lot of ornamentals. I have started propagating succulents inside with the ultimate goal of growing them large enough for an outdoor cauldron planting.

We have two huge old trees that are starting to tilt precariously. We're going to have them removed in the next few weeks, and once we do our lot will have twice or three times the sunlight it does now. I've already seeded part of the lawn with wildflowers, but when the trees are gone I'm going to plant a lot of lantana and milkweed in that area.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #99 on: May 15, 2019, 04:31:03 PM »
My mulberry tree fruited fully for the first time in years.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #100 on: May 15, 2019, 04:42:41 PM »
My mulberry tree fruited fully for the first time in years.

We've been in our house since 2016, and we had a dogwood that we thought was dead until it suddenly bloomed this year. It's probably a combination of the sheer volume of rain we've gotten with the numerous fertilizer stakes we put in the yard in last year's vegetable patches. Some of them are near-ish where its roots could be.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2019, 06:06:52 PM »
Is it still alive?

D-E-D
Poor plant.  How long did it last?


Agabus, nice.  I'm working up to what it sounds like y'all are doing.  I lack a good place to start seeds early.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2019, 07:54:42 PM »
Is it still alive?

D-E-D
Poor plant.  How long did it last?


Agabus, nice.  I'm working up to what it sounds like y'all are doing.  I lack a good place to start seeds early.

We also have a 4x4x5 greenhouse we bought at Sam's Club.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2019, 08:30:06 PM »
Agabus, nice.  I'm working up to what it sounds like y'all are doing.  I lack a good place to start seeds early.

We also have a 4x4x5 greenhouse we bought at Sam's Club.
I'll have to look into that.  Usually I'll see things like that, think I can make something myself cheaper, and it all goes horribly wrong from there...
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #104 on: May 15, 2019, 08:57:52 PM »
Agabus, nice.  I'm working up to what it sounds like y'all are doing.  I lack a good place to start seeds early.

We also have a 4x4x5 greenhouse we bought at Sam's Club.
I'll have to look into that.  Usually I'll see things like that, think I can make something myself cheaper, and it all goes horribly wrong from there...

We bought it for >$100, I believe.

EDIT: Here is something similar. link
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #105 on: May 15, 2019, 09:54:00 PM »
Agabus, nice.  I'm working up to what it sounds like y'all are doing.  I lack a good place to start seeds early.

We also have a 4x4x5 greenhouse we bought at Sam's Club.
I'll have to look into that.  Usually I'll see things like that, think I can make something myself cheaper, and it all goes horribly wrong from there...

We bought it for >$100, I believe.

EDIT: Here is something similar. link
Thanks!
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #106 on: May 15, 2019, 10:55:02 PM »
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #107 on: May 15, 2019, 11:00:52 PM »
Is it still alive?

D-E-D
Poor plant.  How long did it last?

About 7 months.
I think that's still better than my house plants ever fared.  I say good job.  ;D
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2019, 12:41:05 PM »
We have greenhouses both here in at the mountain spread and at the lower ranch, great for starting plants & cloning tomatoes that is easy done in the green house ~ the fruit trees on the lower spread are full or fruit ~ Apricot, Apples, plumbs, cherries, peaches  ~ here I have only two pepper plants in an upstairs window ~ long Hye peppers that look like they would be fire hot but are Sweet and have a wonderful flavor ~ nice to have 5 or 6 with a fresh meal ```
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #109 on: July 11, 2019, 08:44:04 PM »
I can't figure out pictures again (it's my storage site, not this one).  I have about as many weeds as last year, but they're easier to pull than in past years, so that's one plus for the deep mulch.  Even the Bermuda that creeps in is easier to pull.  I did get some plants in: tomatoes, bell peppers, squash, and watermelon.  My lower garden is getting nuked soon, and I'll try again with it next year.  The plan is to deep mulch it in the middle of winter.  And something ate the leaves on my apple trees.  :(
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #110 on: July 12, 2019, 06:36:43 PM »
Took down the small greenhouse after this pic.
Too much rain and not enough hot days stunted my peppers, but my tomatoes have been doing well, 15 in total 3 varieties.
Bokchoy went to seed with no veggie, so ripped them out and planted okra from the store (its not doing the best 6"tall)
Herbs are good though.



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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #111 on: July 12, 2019, 06:40:34 PM »


Only been doing this for 3 years or so, mostly can what we dont eat.  Both these pics are 3 weeks or older, took aftwr working all day.
Recently go a used barrel composter. Now i am reading up on making compost, anyone here compost? If you do what do you use, Pile or barrel?

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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #112 on: July 12, 2019, 07:45:13 PM »
Trying again.  I couldn't see the photo, but apparently it could be seen?   ;D



And this is still the case; it is totally blank on this screen, but on my phone it shows.  Whatever.  There's a panorama of the "raised" row attempt.  It's more like sunken row, but it's ok.  I didn't need tons of compost because the dirt under all that mulch as pretty nutrient dense.  The big squash plant is the volunteer.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #113 on: July 12, 2019, 07:49:40 PM »
Recently go a used barrel composter. Now i am reading up on making compost, anyone here compost? If you do what do you use, Pile or barrel?

We don't compost at home, but the county's rubbish disposal system collects food scraps separately, composts them on location and we can buy big bags of it for a fraction of the price of commercial compost. All I need to do is separate organic waste and use biodegradable bags. They even provided us with the caddies.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #114 on: July 15, 2019, 05:30:47 PM »
Trying again.  I couldn't see the photo, but apparently it could be seen?   ;D



And this is still the case; it is totally blank on this screen, but on my phone it shows.  Whatever.  There's a panorama of the "raised" row attempt.  It's more like sunken row, but it's ok.  I didn't need tons of compost because the dirt under all that mulch as pretty nutrient dense.  The big squash plant is the volunteer.

Nice looking garden. Is that strawberries? My neighbor had some, got a few quarts this year even though the rain was heavy.
Sorry about pic size, ill have to msg you later.

Recently go a used barrel composter. Now i am reading up on making compost, anyone here compost? If you do what do you use, Pile or barrel?

We don't compost at home, but the county's rubbish disposal system collects food scraps separately, composts them on location and we can buy big bags of it for a fraction of the price of commercial compost. All I need to do is separate organic waste and use biodegradable bags. They even provided us with the caddies.

Thats nice. I guess if you cant at home then its a good substitute.

On a side note i was thinking about trying to talk my local town into allowing chickens, i would love some fresh eggs/meat. I heard their droppings are good source of nitrogen as well

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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2019, 07:06:59 PM »
Nice looking garden. Is that strawberries? My neighbor had some, got a few quarts this year even though the rain was heavy.
Thanks!  And yes, that front left corner is all strawberries.  The patch is a few years old, but they've really exploded in the last year or so, and they're actually yielding for a change.  My big issues with the other plants are always bugs and rot or mildew.  The year I planted marigolds, the bad bugs weren't nearly as prolific.

On a side note i was thinking about trying to talk my local town into allowing chickens, i would love some fresh eggs/meat. I heard their droppings are good source of nitrogen as well
I'm pretty sure any manure needs to break down first before being used to amend soil, both because of potential pathogens and because it's actually too much nitrogen at first, and can burn the plants.  I think, but am not certain, that chicken poop is less of a concern as opposed to cow manure, but still.  Not worth the risk.  I use the deep litter method because I'm too lazy to clean the coop and am not hardcore enough to be integrating systems and all that jazz.  :)
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #116 on: July 15, 2019, 09:10:06 PM »
I'm pretty sure any manure needs to break down first before being used to amend soil, both because of potential pathogens and because it's actually too much nitrogen at first, and can burn the plants.  I think, but am not certain, that chicken poop is less of a concern as opposed to cow manure, but still.  Not worth the risk.
The key is to apply the manure during those few weeks (at least here in southern Pennsylvania) between the frost that ends the growing season and the deep freeze.  Apply the manure and till it in as deeply as possible.

I have a neighbor with horses so that is the plan for late October.

You have accept the risk that seeds--some good, most bad--come "along for the ride" so a fall application of manure ought to be filled with an early spring application of Roundup or other weed killer.

As for my plot...harvested the first squash-from-seed late last week, just 50 days after planting (not the 55 indicated on the seed packet) and had the first Jalepeno pepper this evening about an hour ago.   My mouth is still recovering.

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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #117 on: July 15, 2019, 09:12:53 PM »
I'm pretty sure any manure needs to break down first before being used to amend soil, both because of potential pathogens and because it's actually too much nitrogen at first, and can burn the plants.  I think, but am not certain, that chicken poop is less of a concern as opposed to cow manure, but still.  Not worth the risk.
The key is to apply the manure during those few weeks (at least here in southern Pennsylvania) between the frost that ends the growing season and the deep freeze.  Apply the manure and till it in as deeply as possible.

I have a neighbor with horses so that is the plan for late October.

You have accept the risk that seeds--some good, most bad--come "along for the ride" so a fall application of manure ought to be filled with an early spring application of Roundup or other weed killer.

As for my plot...harvested the first squash-from-seed late last week, just 50 days after planting (not the 55 indicated on the seed packet) and had the first Jalepeno pepper this evening about an hour ago.   My mouth is still recovering.

A particularly hot strain or have you had dry weather in the local area?
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #119 on: July 15, 2019, 09:59:47 PM »
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #120 on: July 16, 2019, 08:45:08 AM »
I'm pretty sure any manure needs to break down first before being used to amend soil, both because of potential pathogens and because it's actually too much nitrogen at first, and can burn the plants.  I think, but am not certain, that chicken poop is less of a concern as opposed to cow manure, but still.  Not worth the risk.
The key is to apply the manure during those few weeks (at least here in southern Pennsylvania) between the frost that ends the growing season and the deep freeze.  Apply the manure and till it in as deeply as possible.

I have a neighbor with horses so that is the plan for late October.

You have accept the risk that seeds--some good, most bad--come "along for the ride" so a fall application of manure ought to be filled with an early spring application of Roundup or other weed killer.

As for my plot...harvested the first squash-from-seed late last week, just 50 days after planting (not the 55 indicated on the seed packet) and had the first Jalepeno pepper this evening about an hour ago.   My mouth is still recovering.
:D  Sounds like an effective method!  However, I do things no-till, and our soil doesn't usually freeze.  It would probably only take attention and row covers to be able to garden year-round here.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2019, 02:08:35 PM »

As for my plot...harvested the first squash-from-seed late last week, just 50 days after planting (not the 55 indicated on the seed packet) and had the first Jalepeno pepper this evening about an hour ago.   My mouth is still recovering.

A particularly hot strain or have you had dry weather in the local area?

We had one inch of rain gently spread out at a quarter of an inch per day July 4 - 8, then another quarter inch on July 11.

Nothing since then, but VERY heavy dews each morning.

So probably the drought concentrating the flavor.

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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #122 on: July 16, 2019, 02:26:58 PM »

As for my plot...harvested the first squash-from-seed late last week, just 50 days after planting (not the 55 indicated on the seed packet) and had the first Jalepeno pepper this evening about an hour ago.   My mouth is still recovering.

A particularly hot strain or have you had dry weather in the local area?

We had one inch of rain gently spread out at a quarter of an inch per day July 4 - 8, then another quarter inch on July 11.

Nothing since then, but VERY heavy dews each morning.

So probably the drought concentrating the flavor.

Yeah, drier weather tends to make hot peppers spicier.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #123 on: July 16, 2019, 05:05:51 PM »
Nice looking garden. Is that strawberries? My neighbor had some, got a few quarts this year even though the rain was heavy.
Thanks!  And yes, that front left corner is all strawberries.  The patch is a few years old, but they've really exploded in the last year or so, and they're actually yielding for a change.  My big issues with the other plants are always bugs and rot or mildew.  The year I planted marigolds, the bad bugs weren't nearly as prolific.

On a side note i was thinking about trying to talk my local town into allowing chickens, i would love some fresh eggs/meat. I heard their droppings are good source of nitrogen as well
I'm pretty sure any manure needs to break down first before being used to amend soil, both because of potential pathogens and because it's actually too much nitrogen at first, and can burn the plants.  I think, but am not certain, that chicken poop is less of a concern as opposed to cow manure, but still.  Not worth the risk.  I use the deep litter method because I'm too lazy to clean the coop and am not hardcore enough to be integrating systems and all that jazz.  :)

Since i was given a barrel composter i thought tossing in the wood shaving, and the chiclen poop and composting it. But i still need to break the red tape (i assume it'll be hard)

Do you spray your plants for mildew/rot? Every year blight is a problem here,  so i spray, "Copper fungicide by bonnide", its for organic gardens. Its concentrated so a few tbsp per gallon is all i need once a month or so. So far this year im getting lucky.
Tomatos are as large as baseballs, and starting to change from green.

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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #124 on: July 16, 2019, 05:15:11 PM »
Nice looking garden. Is that strawberries? My neighbor had some, got a few quarts this year even though the rain was heavy.
Thanks!  And yes, that front left corner is all strawberries.  The patch is a few years old, but they've really exploded in the last year or so, and they're actually yielding for a change.  My big issues with the other plants are always bugs and rot or mildew.  The year I planted marigolds, the bad bugs weren't nearly as prolific.

On a side note i was thinking about trying to talk my local town into allowing chickens, i would love some fresh eggs/meat. I heard their droppings are good source of nitrogen as well
I'm pretty sure any manure needs to break down first before being used to amend soil, both because of potential pathogens and because it's actually too much nitrogen at first, and can burn the plants.  I think, but am not certain, that chicken poop is less of a concern as opposed to cow manure, but still.  Not worth the risk.  I use the deep litter method because I'm too lazy to clean the coop and am not hardcore enough to be integrating systems and all that jazz.  :)

Since i was given a barrel composter i thought tossing in the wood shaving, and the chiclen poop and composting it. But i still need to break the red tape (i assume it'll be hard)

Do you spray your plants for mildew/rot? Every year blight is a problem here,  so i spray, "Copper fungicide by bonnide", its for organic gardens. Its concentrated so a few tbsp per gallon is all i need once a month or so. So far this year im getting lucky.
Tomatos are as large as baseballs, and starting to change from green.
I'm not sure about the red tape.  From what I've read, it requires petitions from the community and such.  I think most towns are worried it will be a nuisance to the neighbors, and a poorly-run set up can absolutely be.

I don't spray them, no.  I bought seeds for strains that were resistant various diseases and they did better than the transplants I get at the feed store.  I just didn't get started early enough this year.
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Re: Theosis through gardening
« Reply #125 on: September 22, 2019, 07:43:31 PM »
I had some fresh apricots from a friend's garden.  I've always had them dried, so it was quite a treat.
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