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How kids get hooked
« on: June 25, 2014, 08:18:28 PM »
This message needs to be spread. I am glad that Nicole had the courage to speak out.
I hope her message is told to vulnerable high school girls from ages 12 to 18.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjAO-0ub1m8
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 10:49:19 PM »
Lord, have mercy.  :'(
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2014, 03:55:06 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee. Also why I'll teach her how to shoot guns once she turns 3 and enroll her in martial arts. Also why I'll be sure to give my children an opportunity to make money. Nobody likes to be broke; if they can't get money in a legit way, they'll resort to unspeakable ways.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2014, 04:22:46 PM »
It is more important to set an example of a virtuous life for your ckildren, particularly faith, hope, charity, temperance, and chastity. I took Karate lessons, and some of the adults and children did not set good examples.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2014, 04:27:40 PM »
It is more important to set an example of a virtuous life for your ckildren, particularly faith, hope, charity, temperance, and chastity. I took Karate lessons, and some of the adults and children did not set good examples.

That's one of the reasons virginity until marriage is so important to me and my potential future wife. No child is going to listen to their parents about sex if they were fornicators in the past. Not even I would. That's hypocrisy. Setting a good example now, even in single life, is important to me so that my Jamesian offspring can't accuse me of hypocrisy.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2014, 04:39:10 PM »
It is more important to set an example of a virtuous life for your ckildren, particularly faith, hope, charity, temperance, and chastity. I took Karate lessons, and some of the adults and children did not set good examples.

That's one of the reasons virginity until marriage is so important to me and my potential future wife. No child is going to listen to their parents about sex if they were fornicators in the past. Not even I would. That's hypocrisy. Setting a good example now, even in single life, is important to me so that my Jamesian offspring can't accuse me of hypocrisy.

Because no one makes mistakes? Like you, I'm a product of pre-marital sex - does that mean I can't listen to my parents about morality because they sinned in the past?
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2014, 04:53:04 PM »
It is more important to set an example of a virtuous life for your ckildren, particularly faith, hope, charity, temperance, and chastity. I took Karate lessons, and some of the adults and children did not set good examples.

That's one of the reasons virginity until marriage is so important to me and my potential future wife. No child is going to listen to their parents about sex if they were fornicators in the past. Not even I would. That's hypocrisy. Setting a good example now, even in single life, is important to me so that my Jamesian offspring can't accuse me of hypocrisy.

Because no one makes mistakes?

I would willing to wager that JamesR won't make such a mistake, even if he wanted to.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2014, 04:56:35 PM »
It is more important to set an example of a virtuous life for your ckildren, particularly faith, hope, charity, temperance, and chastity. I took Karate lessons, and some of the adults and children did not set good examples.

That's one of the reasons virginity until marriage is so important to me and my potential future wife. No child is going to listen to their parents about sex if they were fornicators in the past. Not even I would. That's hypocrisy. Setting a good example now, even in single life, is important to me so that my Jamesian offspring can't accuse me of hypocrisy.

Because no one makes mistakes? Like you, I'm a product of pre-marital sex - does that mean I can't listen to my parents about morality because they sinned in the past?

In my case, yes; I wouldn't listen to them.

Their morality advice isn't very Christian--probably due to them fornicating and having me. They told me that fornication isn't really a big deal and that God will just forgive me. I'm all alone in staying virginal.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2014, 05:06:19 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2014, 05:07:10 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

I would be interested in a Freudian analysis of our James.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2014, 05:13:02 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

No, but I would for this stuff

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2014, 05:14:32 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you? 

Either that or coffee is worth a lot to him.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2014, 05:15:28 PM »
Please note.


That goes for 6.99.  The Dunken is 8.99


That makes your (thankfully) not yet conceived daughter worth 210 dollars.


Please print this out and save it for her 18th birthday so she can then kick her no-good father somewhere deserving.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2014, 05:16:45 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you? 

Either that or coffee is worth a lot to him.

Coffee is the way to a man's heart; along with General Original snus. Well, at least to my heart. Give me a woman who can prepare fine coffee, uses tobacco, is blonde and Orthodox, and I'll treat her like a queen.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2014, 05:17:29 PM »
Please note.


That goes for 6.99.  The Dunken is 8.99

The Dunken is actually $6.99 as well where I live. The prices are equal in California.
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2014, 05:17:53 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you? 

Either that or coffee is worth a lot to him.

Coffee is the way to a man's heart; along with General Original snus. Well, at least to my heart. Give me a woman who can prepare fine coffee, uses tobacco, is blonde and Orthodox, and I'll treat her like a queen.


and sell her offspring for $210.....

sounds ideal really.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2014, 05:18:40 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2014, 05:19:08 PM »
If it makes you feel any better, my mother would sell me off for less. She really wants me to find a girlfriend or wife for some reason.
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2014, 05:25:37 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

For the record, I'd be a phenomenal father. I'd much rather have daughters than sons. I like taking care of my little sister :)
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2014, 05:27:41 PM »
I had a teacher once, who worked in India as a young woman. Once, while walking down the street with two male companions (they wouldn't let her walk the Streets alone) they came across a rich fellow, who offered to buy her for three elephants.
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I had a teacher once who world on India as a young woman. Once, while walking down the street with two male companions (they wouldn't let her walk the Streets alone) they came across a rich fellow, who offered to buy her for three elephants.

One of my university friends had gone on a Nile cruise with her family in high school and had a local offer her father up to 20 camels for her.
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I had a teacher once, who worked in India as a young woman. Once, while walking down the street with two male companions (they wouldn't let her walk the Streets alone) they came across a rich fellow, who offered to buy her for three elephants.

I wonder how much that would translate to in coffee currency.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2014, 05:31:55 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

8.  Not sure if that's good or not, but supposedly her dad will give me her sister as well.  :)
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2014, 05:33:02 PM »
Coffee is the way to a man's heart; along with General Original snus.

I've never been one for coffee or snus, but I can imagine that people like it; can't blame them for enjoying life. What kind of coffee/snus do you use?

uses tobacco

Tobacco makes your breath smelly. Not something one would appreciate in a woman.
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2014, 05:33:08 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

WHAT?!?!  :P
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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2014, 05:34:02 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

WHAT?!?!  :P

You don't have virginal Chicano blood. That earns another goat.
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2014, 05:35:16 PM »
All these stories have only furthered strengthened my semi-serious, somewhat exploitive idea of just waltzing into an impoverished Orthodox country and having like 10 Orthodox fathers offering to give me their daughters in marriage, then choosing the most pious (and attractive) one.

Perhaps Egypt. I hear size matters. My wrist tattoo is larger than most. The Coptic women will go mad in a love drunk frenzy once I unveil it.
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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2014, 05:35:59 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

WHAT?!?!  :P

Apparently I'm worth 9 goats as well. Everyone worth less than that is in deep trouble, it seems.
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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2014, 05:36:34 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

WHAT?!?!  :P

I can fix a car myself; my dad taught me how when I was 12-14.
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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2014, 05:37:54 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

For the record, I'd be a phenomenal father. I'd much rather have daughters than sons. I like taking care of my little sister :)



The thing is, I just can't do the have-children/treat-me-like-a-queen Godly family religious woman thing. I find such things detestable. At least an atheist girl won't want children and isn't as emotional and clingy.



then

Genuine honestly slightly exaggerated. I don't ever want children, so if a particular hobby can increase my chances of not having them, I'm all for it. But I wouldn't go out explicitly trying to make myself infertile.



It's fine at your age to not know what the heck it is you want.

but until you do....perhaps you should learn to not BS back and forth on it every time you feel like getting a rise out of people.....it just makes you look foolish
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2014, 05:38:29 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

WHAT?!?!  :P

Apparently I'm worth 9 goats as well. Everyone worth less than that is in deep trouble, it seems.

In societies that appreciate goat currency, youth is a big advantage. I'd fetch 6, even now. For having lived long enough to lay down the law with the young 'uns. :police:
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2014, 05:40:02 PM »
Coffee is the way to a man's heart; along with General Original snus.

I've never been one for coffee or snus, but I can imagine that people like it; can't blame them for enjoying life. What kind of coffee/snus do you use?



And Colombo Supremo coffee, like the one I posted above.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2014, 05:41:01 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2014, 05:42:56 PM »
At least hold out for better coffee James!

http://www.volcanicacoffee.com/estate-coffee/kopi-luwak-coffee.htm

You still have to get me some cool Native American tobacco :)
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2014, 05:48:50 PM »
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9. You're almost the most beautiful girl here.

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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2014, 05:51:50 PM »
At least hold out for better coffee James!

http://www.volcanicacoffee.com/estate-coffee/kopi-luwak-coffee.htm

You still have to get me some cool Native American tobacco :)

No, i really don't. ;)

There are plenty of reservations where you live. Buy tobacco down there. I don't have any relatives that grow tobacco. I could send you smoked fish, but I don't think you will want to actually smoke that.

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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2014, 05:54:34 PM »
I got 6. I think the fact that I'm already married influenced my anwers in strange ways.   :laugh:
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2014, 05:55:21 PM »
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If it makes you feel good, I'd pay 3 goats and a half-used can of snus White portion for you. Maybe I'd throw in my brother if you could teach me to tie a full windsor knot when I get ready for Church on Sunday mornings.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2014, 06:01:41 PM »
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9. You're almost the most beautiful girl here.

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If it makes you feel good, I'd pay 3 goats and a half-used can of snus White portion for you. Maybe I'd throw in my brother if you could teach me to tie a full windsor knot when I get ready for Church on Sunday mornings.

It's common knowledge that you secretly want to be born in early 17th century Russia.  As a serf or a royal, I know not.  Chances are serf.

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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2014, 06:04:54 PM »
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9. You're almost the most beautiful girl here.

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If it makes you feel good, I'd pay 3 goats and a half-used can of snus White portion for you. Maybe I'd throw in my brother if you could teach me to tie a full windsor knot when I get ready for Church on Sunday mornings.



That was actually a compliment. Regardless of how much I enjoy irritating you, and how repulsed you are at me, you're one of the more goat-worthy females around this place.
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2014, 06:13:28 PM »
That was actually a compliment. Regardless of how much I enjoy irritating you, and how repulsed you are at me, you're one of the more goat-worthy females around this place.

May I suggest, as a friend, that you don't deploy pick-up lines like this on the ladies IRL? ;) :D
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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2014, 06:17:43 PM »
This is why I'll never let my daughters go anywhere with a male until he pays me a bride price of 30 bags of coffee.

Are women really that cheap and worthless to you?  At least in the old country dowries involve gold, lands, property, etc.  Would you really sell off your daughter for three hundred dollars worth of Dunkin Donuts original roast? 

How many goats are YOU worth? :P

I got 9, surprisingly.

For the record, I'd be a phenomenal father. I'd much rather have daughters than sons. I like taking care of my little sister :)

How the hell can you possibly know that?  That doesn't mean you won't be or can't be, but how can you make such a claim since your initial posts here were all about how you will NEVER have kids?

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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2014, 06:23:06 PM »
Despite my elderly disposition (over 28), I managed to fetch 8 goats:

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Re: How kids get hooked
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2014, 06:23:34 PM »
That was actually a compliment. Regardless of how much I enjoy irritating you, and how repulsed you are at me, you're one of the more goat-worthy females around this place.

May I suggest, as a friend, that you don't deploy pick-up lines like this on the ladies IRL? ;) :D

Some women might take it as a compliment... assuming they were understanding goat as an acronym for 'greatest of all time,' as it is sometimes used  :angel: