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Is it ethical and right to purchase inexpensive clothing from slave labor or sweat shops ?

Never
3 (12%)
No, but I cannot say never
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No, unless I do not have any options
5 (20%)
Yes, it provides a livelihood for the poor
4 (16%)
Yes
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2014, 08:27:35 PM »
A pea facial maybe?

That looks better than it sounds when read aloud.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2014, 08:30:33 PM »
A pea facial maybe?

I am going to not respond to that. My days of being honest about such matters are over.

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2014, 08:39:12 PM »
A pea facial maybe?

I am going to not respond to that. My days of being honest about such matters are over.

I did a pumpkin facial once. I can't say I such much benefit in it, besides my face reeking of pumpkin afterwards.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2014, 09:08:20 PM »
I really don't feel like it is a profitable use of time and money to research where every consumer item I might buy comes from and where the raw materials for each of those products comes from. Call me lazy, but that isn't my idea of a slammin' fun Friday night.
I made an entire can of peas but don't want to eat the last 40%. If I throw them out it is wasting food. But if I put them in the fridge it means using energy to cool them, and then more energy to reheat them, etc. What a quandary...
Throw it outside, something will eat it.

What if that attracts critters, who then bite a small child, who gets a disease or infection, and dies? All because I didn't want to eat a few spoonfuls of peas?  :(

smear them on yourself instead wearing those evil sweatshop clothes....

This might work for me, but I'm not sure how my neighbors would react. Meh, they never seem to mind when I go out in my boxer-briefs for the mail, so they should be ok.
A pea facial maybe?
Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2014, 09:15:10 PM »
I've never owned a pair of shoes that cost more than $30. Maybe my dress shoes, which I bought for funerals and such, and which I paid whatever they said I had to for. So I'm afraid you'll have to pick another consumerist vice of mine.

Though I do admit to feeling bad later on about the joke. Not because of anything you said (of course), but because I watched the video that Maria posted in the other thread about the prostitution, and I felt like an *ss for joking about stuff in this thread, which is also a serious matter--even if some of the proposed solutions and rhetoric are more emotion and flailing about than real substance.

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2014, 09:44:15 PM »
I really don't feel like it is a profitable use of time and money to research where every consumer item I might buy comes from and where the raw materials for each of those products comes from. Call me lazy, but that isn't my idea of a slammin' fun Friday night.
I made an entire can of peas but don't want to eat the last 40%. If I throw them out it is wasting food. But if I put them in the fridge it means using energy to cool them, and then more energy to reheat them, etc. What a quandary...
Throw it outside, something will eat it.

What if that attracts critters, who then bite a small child, who gets a disease or infection, and dies? All because I didn't want to eat a few spoonfuls of peas?  :(

smear them on yourself instead wearing those evil sweatshop clothes....

This might work for me, but I'm not sure how my neighbors would react. Meh, they never seem to mind when I go out in my boxer-briefs for the mail, so they should be ok.
A pea facial maybe?
Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.

Stop generalizing. I don't wear Nikes. Why are you hostile?
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2014, 09:56:06 PM »
I really don't feel like it is a profitable use of time and money to research where every consumer item I might buy comes from and where the raw materials for each of those products comes from. Call me lazy, but that isn't my idea of a slammin' fun Friday night.
I made an entire can of peas but don't want to eat the last 40%. If I throw them out it is wasting food. But if I put them in the fridge it means using energy to cool them, and then more energy to reheat them, etc. What a quandary...
Throw it outside, something will eat it.

What if that attracts critters, who then bite a small child, who gets a disease or infection, and dies? All because I didn't want to eat a few spoonfuls of peas?  :(

smear them on yourself instead wearing those evil sweatshop clothes....

This might work for me, but I'm not sure how my neighbors would react. Meh, they never seem to mind when I go out in my boxer-briefs for the mail, so they should be ok.
A pea facial maybe?
Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.

Stop generalizing. I don't wear Nikes. Why are you hostile?

Shiny's just picking up where he left off.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2014, 10:02:33 PM »
I really don't feel like it is a profitable use of time and money to research where every consumer item I might buy comes from and where the raw materials for each of those products comes from. Call me lazy, but that isn't my idea of a slammin' fun Friday night.
I made an entire can of peas but don't want to eat the last 40%. If I throw them out it is wasting food. But if I put them in the fridge it means using energy to cool them, and then more energy to reheat them, etc. What a quandary...
Throw it outside, something will eat it.

What if that attracts critters, who then bite a small child, who gets a disease or infection, and dies? All because I didn't want to eat a few spoonfuls of peas?  :(

smear them on yourself instead wearing those evil sweatshop clothes....

This might work for me, but I'm not sure how my neighbors would react. Meh, they never seem to mind when I go out in my boxer-briefs for the mail, so they should be ok.
A pea facial maybe?
Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.

Stop generalizing. I don't wear Nikes. Why are you hostile?

Shiny's just picking up where he left off.

Oh I hope so!
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2014, 10:40:51 PM »
Let us commemorate Shiny and his ascetic ways.

I dunno I liked how rappers back in the 80s had a pirate theme going wearing Pirates hats or Raiders stuff whatever. But then you have stuff like pirate radio, broadcasting underground stuff.

I saw a guy on the street recently wearing a Raiders jacket and Hornets snapback. It was amazing. Straight up 90s.

I like the retro Starter jackets a lot and the Mitchell and Ness snapbacks.

Normally I just wear Nike sweats and whatever I have in my closet. Nike Air Maxes or Jordan's. Really if retro Js were cheaper id wear then a lot more.

385 for retro J 3 with Nike Air on the back? No thanks.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2014, 10:50:06 PM »

Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.

We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.

I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2014, 10:53:03 PM »

Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.

We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.

Punch is a most interesting enigma. Sometimes I think: Gee that was super insightful and a great perspective. Other times I think: Holy crap, that guy is insane, I hope he never finds out where I live.   :P
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2014, 10:53:30 PM »

Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.

We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.

Punch is a most interesting enigma. Sometimes I think: Gee that was super insightful and a great perspective. Other times I think: Holy crap, that guy is insane, I hope he never finds out where I live.   :P

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2014, 10:57:49 PM »

Keep yukking it up.

300 million kids around the world are going to bed hungry tonight, and tomorrow some of them will need to grind out 10 more hours of their soul to craft you a pair of Nike Air Monarch IVs.

Keep continuing to be oblivious by being shamelessly decadent and self-indulgent, after all it is an excellent witness to the Christian faith.

We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.

Punch is a most interesting enigma. Sometimes I think: Gee that was super insightful and a great perspective. Other times I think: Holy crap, that guy is insane, I hope he never finds out where I live.   :P

I have learned to attribute the parts I agree with to his Orthodox 1/3rd, the parts I disagree with to his Lutheran 1/3rd, and the parts that scare me to his 'I'm Punch. Checkmate.' 1/3rd.  ;)

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2014, 05:29:50 PM »
We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.
That is already an untenable solution and further you assume two things, this would end suffering and you haven't been dehumanized yourself. The growing modern corporate-techocapitalism that is simply the most dominating, out of control ideological force in history simultaneously dehumanizes and represses.

Your nukes are the very product of this calculable dehumanizing process in virtue of technology.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2014, 05:42:33 PM »
Outside of shoes, I haven't purchased new clothes in years.

I guess this is a kind of poor humblebrag.

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2014, 05:45:03 PM »
Outside of shoes, I haven't purchased new clothes in years.

I guess this is a kind of poor humblebrag.

Lord have mercy and all that.


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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2014, 07:48:41 PM »
We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.
That is already an untenable solution and further you assume two things, this would end suffering and you haven't been dehumanized yourself. The growing modern corporate-techocapitalism that is simply the most dominating, out of control ideological force in history simultaneously dehumanizes and represses.

Your nukes are the very product of this calculable dehumanizing process in virtue of technology.
With all this moralizing, you don't seem to meet the definition of amoral, opportunistic, antisocial, sadistic, machiavellian, misanthropic, pessimistic, narcissistic, psychopathic, sociopathic, jaded, opulent self-absorbed navel-gazing.  Perhaps there is hope for you yet.  ;)
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2014, 08:31:56 PM »
We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.
That is already an untenable solution and further you assume two things, this would end suffering and you haven't been dehumanized yourself. The growing modern corporate-techocapitalism that is simply the most dominating, out of control ideological force in history simultaneously dehumanizes and represses.

Your nukes are the very product of this calculable dehumanizing process in virtue of technology.
With all this moralizing, you don't seem to meet the definition of amoral, opportunistic, antisocial, sadistic, machiavellian, misanthropic, pessimistic, narcissistic, psychopathic, sociopathic, jaded, opulent self-absorbed navel-gazing.  Perhaps there is hope for you yet.  ;)
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« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2014, 10:22:20 PM »
We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.
That is already an untenable solution and further you assume two things, this would end suffering and you haven't been dehumanized yourself. The growing modern corporate-techocapitalism that is simply the most dominating, out of control ideological force in history simultaneously dehumanizes and represses.

Your nukes are the very product of this calculable dehumanizing process in virtue of technology.

First point - no, it would not end suffering.  It would only end the suffering for however many million that we killed.  If we could up that to a couple of billion, that would end a lot of suffering, but not all of it.  As to dehumanizing, you make it sound like being a human is a good thing.  Personally I think that rats have us beat.  To be honest, I don't think that there are many things more disgusting than humans.  The beauty of this from a moral perspective is that no matter how many millions that you kill, you are still alive to be forgiven.  However, if you simply kill yourself and spare the rest of the world, then you cannot be forgiven.  What a dilemma that religion has created.  Figure out the age of reason.  Baptize all of the poor and starving under that age and then kill them.  Instant Salvation for millions!  Next, kill all those that want to be martyrs.  Instant salvation for more millions (although a my guess would be that most of them would chicken out when the found out that one was all too willing to grant their wish).  If you could grant instant Salvation to that many people, you could become the second most holy person to walk the earth.  Only Jesus would be greater.  You would have saved more people than any apostle, any evangelist, any Church Father, any Pope, any priest, and you would only violate one commandment doing it. Since no body other than Jesus is perfect, all of the former have violated at least one commandment, too.  Yet, have they done so much good doing so? 

Perhaps I should stop thinking about this.  It is starting to sound to good to be true.  Maybe you are right and it is untenable.   

Second point -  you say that as though I should care.  I don't.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2014, 01:27:36 PM »
We could nuke them, which would end their suffering in milliseconds. Oh, but we are all about life, so we feed them just enough so that they can breed more starving children and increase the misery in the world.  If we baptized the children and then killed them, they would go to heaven wouldn't they?  Would you be showing love by ending their suffering and sending them to heaven, or would you be a monster because you did not let them suffer longer and die in pain and agony?  Sorry, just the old Nazi in me from my youth coming through.  I wish that there were not times that it made more sense than religion.
That is already an untenable solution and further you assume two things, this would end suffering and you haven't been dehumanized yourself. The growing modern corporate-techocapitalism that is simply the most dominating, out of control ideological force in history simultaneously dehumanizes and represses.

Your nukes are the very product of this calculable dehumanizing process in virtue of technology.

First point - no, it would not end suffering.  It would only end the suffering for however many million that we killed.  If we could up that to a couple of billion, that would end a lot of suffering, but not all of it.  As to dehumanizing, you make it sound like being a human is a good thing.  Personally I think that rats have us beat.  To be honest, I don't think that there are many things more disgusting than humans.  The beauty of this from a moral perspective is that no matter how many millions that you kill, you are still alive to be forgiven.  However, if you simply kill yourself and spare the rest of the world, then you cannot be forgiven.  What a dilemma that religion has created.  Figure out the age of reason.  Baptize all of the poor and starving under that age and then kill them.  Instant Salvation for millions!  Next, kill all those that want to be martyrs.  Instant salvation for more millions (although a my guess would be that most of them would chicken out when the found out that one was all too willing to grant their wish).  If you could grant instant Salvation to that many people, you could become the second most holy person to walk the earth.  Only Jesus would be greater.  You would have saved more people than any apostle, any evangelist, any Church Father, any Pope, any priest, and you would only violate one commandment doing it. Since no body other than Jesus is perfect, all of the former have violated at least one commandment, too.  Yet, have they done so much good doing so? 

Perhaps I should stop thinking about this.  It is starting to sound to good to be true.  Maybe you are right and it is untenable.   

Second point -  you say that as though I should care.  I don't.

I suspect Christ disapproves when we try to game his system.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2014, 01:37:29 PM »
I suspect Christ disapproves when we try to game his system.

I agree with you . . . in sooooo many ways.  There are many who think that religion is nothing other than man attempting to game God's system.
I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2014, 01:42:52 PM »
I suspect Christ disapproves when we try to game his system.

I agree with you . . . in sooooo many ways.  There are many who think that religion is nothing other than man attempting to game God's system.

Seems like a pretty prideful attitude to me, thinking you can game him into judging a certain way.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
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I suspect Christ disapproves when we try to game his system.

I agree with you . . . in sooooo many ways.  There are many who think that religion is nothing other than man attempting to game God's system.

Seems like a pretty prideful attitude to me, thinking you can game him into judging a certain way.


It is worse than that.  It is just plain stupid thinking that you can game God.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2014, 02:00:47 PM »
I suspect Christ disapproves when we try to game his system.

I agree with you . . . in sooooo many ways.  There are many who think that religion is nothing other than man attempting to game God's system.

Seems like a pretty prideful attitude to me, thinking you can game him into judging a certain way.


It is worse than that.  It is just plain stupid thinking that you can game God.

Good point.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2014, 03:01:13 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.


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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2014, 03:12:44 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.



That is better than a classmate in one of my classes. I called her to discuss one of the lectures, and she was not in. However, her answering machine had a recorded message, "Come on over later when I have nothing on but the radio."
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2014, 03:22:30 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.



Better keep your coat on at all times.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2014, 03:27:30 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.



Miss Elephant,

I am now imagining you dressed in fabulous outfits of glittery bras, shoes and a lovely velvet coat.

Please never tell me this is incorrect.


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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #73 on: June 27, 2014, 03:29:15 PM »
I do hope elephant has a long coat.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2014, 03:29:27 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.



Better keep your coat on at all times.

Perhaps she was referring to a "house coat" or "duster".
It is a garment typically worn in a mental institution or skilled nursing facility by patients.
I have been visiting these patients, and they are issued these "house coats" by their conservators.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #75 on: June 27, 2014, 03:59:58 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.



Miss Elephant,

I am now imagining you dressed in fabulous outfits of glittery bras, shoes and a lovely velvet coat.

Please never tell me this is incorrect.



I tired to find an image of an elephant flasher.  Rule 34 failed me.
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« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2014, 04:25:39 PM »
I tired to find an image of an elephant flasher.  Rule 34 failed me.

Did you try any German web sites.  After all, I think that they created Rule 34.
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« Reply #77 on: June 27, 2014, 04:27:06 PM »
I tired to find an image of an elephant flasher.  Rule 34 failed me.

Did you try any German web sites.  After all, I think that they created Rule 34.

I didn't have great luck finding an elephant in a sparkly bra and shoes either.....so must just be -reloading- the rule 34 content atm

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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
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Is there any that are not in some way?
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Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?

Is there any that are not in some way?

Good question.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2014, 06:41:39 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.



Miss Elephant,

I am now imagining you dressed in fabulous outfits of glittery bras, shoes and a lovely velvet coat.

Please never tell me this is incorrect.



I tired to find an image of an elephant flasher.  Rule 34 failed me.
A. I found it
B. I am horrifically scarred by what I had to go through to find it
C. I'm not posting it.

At least we know that Rule 34 is still intact, but oh the things I have seen.  :o
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2014, 07:57:43 PM »
Fortunately, my mother still picks out and buys my clothing, and when she passes away someday, I was just planning on having my younger sister take over that job for me, so I've never had to think much about this  ;)

However, now that I think about it, the thought of buying clothing that supports an evil, exploitive industry sounds pretty bad. On the other hand though, I don't see how my not buying their products is really going to put a stop to it. At least if I purchase it, their work won't be in vain. I'd rather try to improve labour conditions for these people instead of just sitting idly by.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2014, 08:42:13 PM »
I avoid some stuff where I can....but honestly that's mostly driven by allergy related reasons.


Denise, really needing a plastic allergen free bubble to live in...

I sympathize with you.

I am making almost all of my clothing now, except bras, shoes, socks, and coats.

But that's all I wear! Unless you count nail polish.



Miss Elephant,

I am now imagining you dressed in fabulous outfits of glittery bras, shoes and a lovely velvet coat.

Please never tell me this is incorrect.



I tired to find an image of an elephant flasher.  Rule 34 failed me.
A. I found it
B. I am horrifically scarred by what I had to go through to find it
C. I'm not posting it.

At least we know that Rule 34 is still intact, but oh the things I have seen.  :o

I was at work reading this thread. So, I used my phone to set up a hotspot to bypass the NetNazis, logged on with my tablet (my property), set my browser to "private" and Google "Elephant Porn". I think that it will be days before I stop puking.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #83 on: June 27, 2014, 08:57:23 PM »
I was at work reading this thread. So, I used my phone to set up a hotspot to bypass the NetNazis, logged on with my tablet (my property), set my browser to "private" and Google "Elephant Porn". I think that it will be days before I stop puking.

That's dedication.  Like "the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force" dedication.
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« Reply #84 on: June 27, 2014, 08:59:37 PM »
I was at work reading this thread. So, I used my phone to set up a hotspot to bypass the NetNazis, logged on with my tablet (my property), set my browser to "private" and Google "Elephant Porn". I think that it will be days before I stop puking.

That's dedication.  Like "the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force" dedication.

The only thing that suffered violence was my eyes and psyche.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2014, 09:19:06 PM »
I was at work reading this thread. So, I used my phone to set up a hotspot to bypass the NetNazis, logged on with my tablet (my property), set my browser to "private" and Google "Elephant Porn". I think that it will be days before I stop puking.

That's dedication.  Like "the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force" dedication.

The only thing that suffered violence was my eyes and psyche.
I feel you, brother. Blessed are those whose innocence has not been seized from them by elephant porn.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2014, 01:40:44 AM »
This thread went from sweat shops to elephant porn.  I'm so confused.
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2014, 06:50:42 AM »
I tired to find an image of an elephant flasher.  Rule 34 failed me.

Did you try any German web sites.  After all, I think that they created Rule 34.

I didn't have great luck finding an elephant in a sparkly bra and shoes either.....so must just be -reloading- the rule 34 content atm

I'm sure ZealousZeal could oblige, with her 'shopping prowess.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2014, 07:57:10 AM »
I was at work reading this thread. So, I used my phone to set up a hotspot to bypass the NetNazis, logged on with my tablet (my property), set my browser to "private" and Google "Elephant Porn". I think that it will be days before I stop puking.

That's dedication.  Like "the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force" dedication.

The only thing that suffered violence was my eyes and psyche.
I feel you, brother. Blessed are those whose innocence has not been seized from them by elephant porn.

I said "elephant flasher" not generic elephant porn.  Geez, I would have figured that would have been out there on the discovery channel if nothing else. 
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Re: Would you buy inexpensive clothing made in a sweat shop if you knew?
« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2014, 10:14:57 AM »
I was at work reading this thread. So, I used my phone to set up a hotspot to bypass the NetNazis, logged on with my tablet (my property), set my browser to "private" and Google "Elephant Porn". I think that it will be days before I stop puking.

That's dedication.  Like "the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force" dedication.

The only thing that suffered violence was my eyes and psyche.
I feel you, brother. Blessed are those whose innocence has not been seized from them by elephant porn.

I said "elephant flasher" not generic elephant porn.  Geez, I would have figured that would have been out there on the discovery channel if nothing else. 
Sometimes, you have to wade through the elephant dung to find the bauble you were searching for.
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