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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2014, 12:44:46 AM »
I'm not sure I find his points all that convincing. He seems to be making a bigger deal over the phrase than need be.

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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2014, 12:47:56 AM »
Great article and what I've felt for a long time:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-dannemiller/christians-should-stop-saying_b_4868963.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000051

What a load of horse apples. I feel blessed that I am not that clown.
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2014, 12:57:31 AM »
I gave my thoughts on it here :)
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2014, 01:54:11 AM »
That was an article? Boy, standards are getting low.
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2014, 03:17:47 AM »
It's the Huffington Post.  What'd you expect?
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2014, 04:12:26 PM »
Yeah, but the point is that it's a phrase of the Prosperity Gospel, not in itself, but in ubiquitous way in which it is used by Christians, in particular Evangelicals. "I'm so blessed for an increase in profits." I understand that one feels blessed for their cancer being cured or something, but maybe it is better to say something else. Maybe not. I think it is the way in which we say it. God know the heart and I do not mean to pass judgment on anyone but I think most who say it should be praying, "Lord have mercy on me a sinner. Thank you for giving me, a sinner, such wonderful things." I think there is a mindset in the prosperity gospel of the "blessing" being given by God for one's righteousness. Seriously. Like a good person is blessed with a cure for cancer. And those who lose someone to the disease or die from it are not "blessed" by God? God's not someone who gives cures and all that based on one's righteousness. Then we would have to assume those who are not cured are wicked! Or those who are poor are wicked. We should thank God for his blessings humbly. If we are given we should feel blessed, but it should be humbly. We should feel compassion for those who are not so fortunate. What I am really railing against here is the Evangelical Prosperity Gospel mentality. It's really a problem in American Christianity.
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 04:16:08 PM »
When the Lord cured people, blessed them if you will, it was usually because they were just people. But they usually were not the just people who thought themselves so. The Roman solider, "Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldst enter under my roof but only say the word..." To which Christ says there is not greater faith among the sons of Abraham than among this heathen. Or all the blind, sick, and so forth. They are passed by, not even noticed for their justice. They suffer in silence. And it is them that Christ heals. Many in Christ's time would have thought them or their parents wicked or guilty of sin because they are suffering from some illness. Christ showed them that the illness was not a curse from God, and that the healing was not a blessing for virtue in the way they thought.
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2014, 04:26:09 PM »
Great article and what I've felt for a long time:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-dannemiller/christians-should-stop-saying_b_4868963.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000051

Wish I had time to ponder idiotic things and get paid to write about them...

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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2014, 06:14:18 PM »
Soooooo.....the article should be called "One Thing American Evangelical Prosperity Gospel-Adhering Christians Should Stop Saying".
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2014, 07:13:53 PM »
Soooooo.....the article should be called "One Thing American Evangelical Prosperity Gospel-Adhering Christians Should Stop Saying".

No, but I can ask Frank Schaeffer to discuss that.  :P
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Re: One Thing Christians Should Stop Saying
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2014, 10:56:45 PM »
Soooooo.....the article should be called "One Thing American Evangelical Prosperity Gospel-Adhering Christians Should Stop Saying".

No, but I can ask Frank Schaeffer to discuss that.  :P

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