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« on: May 30, 2014, 02:52:02 PM »

So in my past life I'd come to say "God bless you" as a good-bye or of course as a congratulations or encouragement, and here after liturgy I said it to someone Orthodox mostly by habit. She studiously ignored it and I immediately remembered the term has an official use in Orthodoxy, expecially by the priest, and is not just a wish.

So what would a Greek Orthodox layperson say instead? And, as long as the subject is up, can anyone say definitively who may bless whom and when in Orthodoxy?
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2014, 03:00:48 PM »

I've heard plenty of Orthodox laity say "God bless you," including cradles. One was this older saint-in-the-making Syrian woman that would even do the sign of the cross like a blessing over things (can't remember if she ever did it to people). Anyway, IIRC she would say "God bless you" to pretty much anyone she talked to.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 03:09:11 PM »

'God bless you' is fine. If we can bless God, there's no reason we can't do the same with people.  angel
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2014, 03:09:43 PM »

I believe that the layperson can say "God bless you" to everyone, other than a priest/bishop, through whom God bestows blessings on His faithful.

Therefore, it would be inappropriate to tell a priest "God bless you".

My mom always gives me her blessing.  Every single day of my life.  Smiley  She would stop us at the door before we would go out to school.  Make sure our coats were buttoned, that we had our lunches, and would finally word a prayer over us and make the sign of the cross over each of us...and then push us out the door to run to the bus.  As an adult, she would get up each morning and see me off to work the exact same way.....and now that she is bedridden, I go to her before I leave the house, and she does the same thing from her bed.  Cheesy  I am soooo very blessed.

What do people usually say to each other in parting?  Well, "Go with God", "may God watch over you", or "see you next week!" come to mind.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2014, 03:39:56 PM »

ahh, now i see where you get your lovely mumminess from...
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as for the original question, i still say God bless you all the time, although i try not to do it too often to priests
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2014, 03:46:43 PM »

I say God bless you to just about anyone that sneezes. Not sure what I would say to the patriarch or a bishop though (God has blessed you?) or "your peace" (Salemtek) in arabic.
I have said God bless you to both my priests. But I am rather close to them from service and being "behind the scenes" in the Church etc. Anyone who does service as a layperson or in the Deaconate knows. I think that comes from working with your priests alot.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2014, 03:51:08 PM »

Glad to learn I was mistaken!

Just would be grand, though, to have a long list of common phrases, in English and Greek (and Ukrainian and Arabic for that matter Wink ).
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2014, 03:53:21 PM »

Oh, I'm glad to hear it's ok to say to most people! I was worried for a minute.

When I first met Father, he said as I was leaving "God bless you" and I said "God bless you too" and immediately realized my mistake, but he never let on. He really is a wonderful priest. Smiley

But I'm not sure what I should say ... I've had priests say that to me several times and I feel rude not replying in kind, but I don't know what I AM supposed to say?

(I usually settle for a smile and bow and "thank you Father")
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2014, 10:31:54 AM »

So in my past life I'd come to say "God bless you" as a good-bye or of course as a congratulations or encouragement, and here after liturgy I said it to someone Orthodox mostly by habit. She studiously ignored it and I immediately remembered the term has an official use in Orthodoxy, expecially by the priest, and is not just a wish.

So what would a Greek Orthodox layperson say instead? And, as long as the subject is up, can anyone say definitively who may bless whom and when in Orthodoxy?

Other lay people say 'God bless you' to other lay people.  I wait for a blessing from a priest however.  Other parishioners say 'God bless you' to me fairly regularly.  

The lady with whom you were speaking may not have heard you, or had something else on her mind.  

Oh, I forgot, on her behalf: God bless you and yours Porter!  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2014, 11:09:27 AM »

Oh, I'm glad to hear it's ok to say to most people! I was worried for a minute.

When I first met Father, he said as I was leaving "God bless you" and I said "God bless you too" and immediately realized my mistake, but he never let on. He really is a wonderful priest. Smiley

But I'm not sure what I should say ... I've had priests say that to me several times and I feel rude not replying in kind, but I don't know what I AM supposed to say?

(I usually settle for a smile and bow and "thank you Father")

My default answer is always a "thank you", whether it is a layperson or a member of the clergy bestowing the blessing....except my mom, who gets a smile and a kiss. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2014, 11:19:52 AM »

If someone, although very knowledgeable about Orthodoxy, chooses not to be gracious, perhaps they might need some instruction.  Surely it was obvious you were being genuine and kind-hearted, and not trying to usurp some priest or bishop's role.  I wish more people said "God Bless You" to me!     And, isn't Good-Bye shortened from God Be With Ye?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2014, 02:19:34 PM »

... And, isn't Good-Bye shortened from God Be With Ye?

Not in Greek. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2014, 02:20:42 PM »

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Oh, I forgot, on her behalf: God bless you and yours Porter!  Smiley

Oh thank you!!
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2014, 03:19:04 PM »

I've said "bless you" to priests and a Bishop (when they sneezed!) No big deal. The Bishop said he liked that custom.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2014, 04:07:25 PM »

I think it just might be the person you spoke to. In our Antiochian church, many people say,"inshallah" (God be with you) when saying farewells. Many people also "God willing" in reference to seeing each other again. Most of us are 2nd to 4th generation Americans.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2014, 11:41:34 AM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2014, 01:33:49 PM »

Why would anyone, even a Bishop, not be thankful that a person was kind enough to wish God's blessing upon then?
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2014, 01:37:05 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Yes, the use of the 'modal' may makes the exclamation acceptable. It reminds me of the prayers attributed to St. Patrick.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2014, 01:44:47 PM »

Why would anyone, even a Bishop, not be thankful that a person was kind enough to wish God's blessing upon then?

Because people have bad manners.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2014, 06:42:26 PM »

So in my past life I'd come to say "God bless you" as a good-bye or of course as a congratulations or encouragement, and here after liturgy I said it to someone Orthodox mostly by habit. She studiously ignored it and I immediately remembered the term has an official use in Orthodoxy, expecially by the priest, and is not just a wish.
Strictly speaking, if the priest is present, then he is the one who blesses; if the bishop is present, then he is the one who blesses.

But "God bless you" in English is more of a positive wish than a liturgical blessing.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2014, 06:51:43 PM »

So in my past life I'd come to say "God bless you" as a good-bye or of course as a congratulations or encouragement, and here after liturgy I said it to someone Orthodox mostly by habit. She studiously ignored it and I immediately remembered the term has an official use in Orthodoxy, expecially by the priest, and is not just a wish.
Strictly speaking, if the priest is present, then he is the one who blesses; if the bishop is present, then he is the one who blesses.

But "God bless you" in English is more of a positive wish than a liturgical blessing.

Or a Christmas carol: http://www.releaselyrics.com/79ad/bing-crosby-christmas-is-a-comin%27-%28may-god-bless-you%29/

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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2014, 08:11:00 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Thank you for this practical explanation.
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2014, 08:16:44 PM »

I think it just might be the person you spoke to. In our Antiochian church, many people say,"inshallah" (God be with you) when saying farewells. Many people also "God willing" in reference to seeing each other again. Most of us are 2nd to 4th generation Americans.
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2014, 08:48:26 PM »

I think it just might be the person you spoke to. In our Antiochian church, many people say,"inshallah" (God be with you) when saying farewells. Many people also "God willing" in reference to seeing each other again. Most of us are 2nd to 4th generation Americans.

I hate to be that guy, but "inshallah" means "by God's will" and tends to get used sarcastically.(when there is no possibility of something happening haha)

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Or it can be very insulting. For example, if someone were to use "inshallah" to refer to someone's upcoming wedding, they might respond, "What do you mean if God's wills?" It would be better to say, "God grant you many years."

The Spanish expression <Ojala> which is derived from the Arabic has the meaning "Would that God" and is very similar to "inshallah."

Both the Arabic and the Spanish expression have the root "ALA" in them.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2014, 07:16:30 AM »

I think it just might be the person you spoke to. In our Antiochian church, many people say,"inshallah" (God be with you) when saying farewells. Many people also "God willing" in reference to seeing each other again. Most of us are 2nd to 4th generation Americans.
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Perhaps it has a different meaning in dialect.
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2014, 01:15:09 PM »

I think it just might be the person you spoke to. In our Antiochian church, many people say,"inshallah" (God be with you) when saying farewells. Many people also "God willing" in reference to seeing each other again. Most of us are 2nd to 4th generation Americans.
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Having lived in Turkey, I was surprised that in Egypt this wish was used to indicate something that probably will not happen. I had thought that it was a devout expression, meaning "God willing," that is, something like "yes, it will happen unless God does not will it to happen."  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2014, 01:19:29 PM »

I believe that the layperson can say "God bless you" to everyone, other than a priest/bishop, through whom God bestows blessings on His faithful.

Therefore, it would be inappropriate to tell a priest "God bless you".

My mom always gives me her blessing.  Every single day of my life.  Smiley  She would stop us at the door before we would go out to school.  Make sure our coats were buttoned, that we had our lunches, and would finally word a prayer over us and make the sign of the cross over each of us...and then push us out the door to run to the bus.  As an adult, she would get up each morning and see me off to work the exact same way.....and now that she is bedridden, I go to her before I leave the house, and she does the same thing from her bed.  Cheesy  I am soooo very blessed.

What do people usually say to each other in parting?  Well, "Go with God", "may God watch over you", or "see you next week!" come to mind.  Wink


"S'Bohom" is a common farewell among some East Slavs..... It means 'Be with God' literally but the intent is the same.
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2014, 01:19:35 PM »

I think it just might be the person you spoke to. In our Antiochian church, many people say,"inshallah" (God be with you) when saying farewells. Many people also "God willing" in reference to seeing each other again. Most of us are 2nd to 4th generation Americans.
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Having lived in Turkey, I was surprised that in Egypt this wish was used to indicate something that probably will not happen. I had thought that it was a devout expression, meaning "God willing," that is, something like "yes, it will happen unless God does not will it to happen."  Smiley

I personally like the Jewish/Yiddish "From your lips to God's ears...."  
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2014, 01:25:01 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Thank you for this practical explanation.

The answer depends on local tradition to a large part.

For Slavs, "Blahoslavyj Vladyko", or 'Bless, Master' (or in the case of some Bishops who prefer not to be called 'despota/vladyko/master' one can say ' Bless (me). Bishop.' as  the  means to first greet your Bishop. You could say 'Many Years, Bishop' or 'Eis polla eti Despota' or ' Nam Mnohaja Lita, Vladyko' when ending the conversation.
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2014, 02:25:10 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Thank you for this practical explanation.

The answer depends on local tradition to a large part.

For Slavs, "Blahoslavyj Vladyko", or 'Bless, Master' (or in the case of some Bishops who prefer not to be called 'despota/vladyko/master' one can say ' Bless (me). Bishop.' as  the  means to first greet your Bishop. You could say 'Many Years, Bishop' or 'Eis polla eti Despota' or ' Nam Mnohaja Lita, Vladyko' when ending the conversation.

Oops, then I think I maybe just made a mistake. If he is addressed by some as "Vladyko" or "Vlaydyka" .... I should not call "Father" then?
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2014, 02:31:23 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Thank you for this practical explanation.

The answer depends on local tradition to a large part.

For Slavs, "Blahoslavyj Vladyko", or 'Bless, Master' (or in the case of some Bishops who prefer not to be called 'despota/vladyko/master' one can say ' Bless (me). Bishop.' as  the  means to first greet your Bishop. You could say 'Many Years, Bishop' or 'Eis polla eti Despota' or ' Nam Mnohaja Lita, Vladyko' when ending the conversation.

Oops, then I think I maybe just made a mistake. If he is addressed by some as "Vladyko" or "Vlaydyka" .... I should not call "Father" then?

Priest=Father
Bishop=Master
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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2014, 02:40:03 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Thank you for this practical explanation.

The answer depends on local tradition to a large part.

For Slavs, "Blahoslavyj Vladyko", or 'Bless, Master' (or in the case of some Bishops who prefer not to be called 'despota/vladyko/master' one can say ' Bless (me). Bishop.' as  the  means to first greet your Bishop. You could say 'Many Years, Bishop' or 'Eis polla eti Despota' or ' Nam Mnohaja Lita, Vladyko' when ending the conversation.

Oops, then I think I maybe just made a mistake. If he is addressed by some as "Vladyko" or "Vlaydyka" .... I should not call "Father" then?

Priest=Father
Bishop=Master
 angel

Oops. I did not know he was a Bishop.

I checked and found a picture - pointy hat ... Huh

Too much I do not know, especially when you add different traditions.

Should I apologize?
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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2014, 03:19:02 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Thank you for this practical explanation.

The answer depends on local tradition to a large part.

For Slavs, "Blahoslavyj Vladyko", or 'Bless, Master' (or in the case of some Bishops who prefer not to be called 'despota/vladyko/master' one can say ' Bless (me). Bishop.' as  the  means to first greet your Bishop. You could say 'Many Years, Bishop' or 'Eis polla eti Despota' or ' Nam Mnohaja Lita, Vladyko' when ending the conversation.

Oops, then I think I maybe just made a mistake. If he is addressed by some as "Vladyko" or "Vlaydyka" .... I should not call "Father" then?

Priest=Father
Bishop=Master
 angel

Oops. I did not know he was a Bishop.

I checked and found a picture - pointy hat ... Huh

Too much I do not know, especially when you add different traditions.

Should I apologize?

Next time you see him..if he didn't make a big deal out of it, just remember the next time. If he seemed 'offended'...well, decide for yourself....
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« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2014, 03:23:05 PM »

I have heard that we should say "May the Lord Bless You" or "May God grant you many years" is how we should address Bishop or priest, I have never been told we may not offer  the prayer "God bless you" to a lay member or family member.


Thank you for this practical explanation.

The answer depends on local tradition to a large part.

For Slavs, "Blahoslavyj Vladyko", or 'Bless, Master' (or in the case of some Bishops who prefer not to be called 'despota/vladyko/master' one can say ' Bless (me). Bishop.' as  the  means to first greet your Bishop. You could say 'Many Years, Bishop' or 'Eis polla eti Despota' or ' Nam Mnohaja Lita, Vladyko' when ending the conversation.

Oops, then I think I maybe just made a mistake. If he is addressed by some as "Vladyko" or "Vlaydyka" .... I should not call "Father" then?

Priest=Father
Bishop=Master
 angel

Oops. I did not know he was a Bishop.

I checked and found a picture - pointy hat ... Huh

Too much I do not know, especially when you add different traditions.

Should I apologize?

Next time you see him..if he didn't make a big deal out of it, just remember the next time. If he seemed 'offended'...well, decide for yourself....


I mistakenly addressed a bishop as "Father" and his reply was, "Yes, we are all fathers. The icons for the Ecumenical Councils depict the bishops as Holy Fathers."
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« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2014, 03:33:54 PM »

one bishop i know disliked being called master ('sayedna' in arabic). we were asked to call him our father the bishop ('abouna al oscof') instead.
i love our coptic bishops, they are very wise but also approachable.
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i think if anna t's bishop even noticed the mistake, he would not be offended, probably just glad to see that there is a new person in church who is not orthodox (yet).
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« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2014, 04:26:56 PM »

Thanks, everyone. Smiley

I think things are fine right now. Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2014, 04:55:01 PM »

Not a good conversation for the unfamiliar to overhear though.

"I'm sorry, last time I called you Father, I didn't know you're actually Master. Please forgive me? May I have your blessing? Oh thank you, let me just reverently kiss your hand now."

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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2014, 06:33:19 PM »

Not a good conversation for the unfamiliar to overhear though.

"I'm sorry, last time I called you Father, I didn't know you're actually Master. Please forgive me? May I have your blessing? Oh thank you, let me just reverently kiss your hand now."

*HUABAND'S HEAD EXPLODES*

Yes. It really makes a mockery of all the humility stuff written by the Church Fathers.
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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2014, 03:01:48 AM »

Not a good conversation for the unfamiliar to overhear though.

"I'm sorry, last time I called you Father, I didn't know you're actually Master. Please forgive me? May I have your blessing? Oh thank you, let me just reverently kiss your hand now."

*HUABAND'S HEAD EXPLODES*

Yes. It really makes a mockery of all the humility stuff written by the Church Fathers.

I just want to be properly respectful and not rude ...

And when my husband came to church with me, I did not go up and kiss Father's hand that day. Just seemed better not to needlessly scandalize him.
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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2014, 09:00:56 AM »

After corresponding with my priest via email, I usually end it with God bless. Quite frankly, if people make a big deal about that, its kind of ridiculous.

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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2014, 09:39:07 AM »

Not a good conversation for the unfamiliar to overhear though.

"I'm sorry, last time I called you Father, I didn't know you're actually Master. Please forgive me? May I have your blessing? Oh thank you, let me just reverently kiss your hand now."

*HUABAND'S HEAD EXPLODES*
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« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2014, 09:55:26 AM »

I think it just might be the person you spoke to. In our Antiochian church, many people say,"inshallah" (God be with you) when saying farewells. Many people also "God willing" in reference to seeing each other again. Most of us are 2nd to 4th generation Americans.
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I hate to be that guy, but "inshallah" means "by God's will" and tends to get used sarcastically.(when there is no possibility of something happening haha)

Having lived in Turkey, I was surprised that in Egypt this wish was used to indicate something that probably will not happen. I had thought that it was a devout expression, meaning "God willing," that is, something like "yes, it will happen unless God does not will it to happen."  Smiley

Oh it can be used in reverence; honestly asking for God to fulfill something. When I was speaking to one of my priests about the construction date of the new church, he told me the date followed by "inshalla". We had ground breaking recently so I'm very excited about that.

Speaking to my mentor who's one rank above me in diaconate: whenever I ask him if he's going to liturgy on Saturday he says "inshalla" because he works a lot of Saturday mornings.

Even when I'm 99% sure he'll be at midnight praises on Saturday night, I still ask him, and he still says "Yes, inshalla".

^Some good, real, examples for you. Just note that it can get sarcastic as well.
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« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2014, 10:01:50 AM »


Ukrainians use the same phrase:  Дай Боже (все добре буде) - God grant/will (all will be well).   In other words, even though a date is set in stone, we still cannot be certain something will not happen either to us, the venue, etc.  Car accident, electric storm, zombie apocalypse, etc.

Therefore, we also add, that we will see you then, "God willing".
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« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2014, 10:04:54 AM »

The entire saying in Ukrainian goes like:

Дай Боже все гоже,
що негоже поправ Боже.

Grant God, all that is good,
God, amend/fix what is not good (unseemly).

Shortened to Дай Боже (Grant it God).
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« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2014, 10:21:00 AM »

The entire saying in Ukrainian goes like:

Дай Боже все гоже,
що негоже поправ Боже.

Grant God, all that is good,
God, amend/fix what is not good (unseemly).

Shortened to Дай Боже (Grant it God).

Rusyns as well...and at toasts we offer them, "Дай Боже  "  not "nas davrovje"' .
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« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2014, 10:26:45 AM »

Not a good conversation for the unfamiliar to overhear though.

"I'm sorry, last time I called you Father, I didn't know you're actually Master. Please forgive me? May I have your blessing? Oh thank you, let me just reverently kiss your hand now."

*HUABAND'S HEAD EXPLODES*
Oh, excuse me as I go prostrate in front of some icons, and sing a hymn to the Virgin Mary.

More #things2avoiddoing when my husband came to church with me. Thankfully it was the Agape Vespers so nothing I had to explain the reason for in the liturgy, but I also kind of wish he could have experienced the Divine Liturgy.
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« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2014, 10:49:46 AM »

Not a good conversation for the unfamiliar to overhear though.

"I'm sorry, last time I called you Father, I didn't know you're actually Master. Please forgive me? May I have your blessing? Oh thank you, let me just reverently kiss your hand now."

*HUABAND'S HEAD EXPLODES*
Oh, excuse me as I go prostrate in front of some icons, and sing a hymn to the Virgin Mary.

Make sure you cross yourself extra slow.  And light a lot of candles.  Then go drink some holy water.
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