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« on: May 27, 2014, 07:56:21 PM »

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It goes on to state, “No see-through or sheer clothing shall be allowed, and no skin shall be visible between pants/trousers, skirts, and shirts/blouses at any time.”

Female teachers are also required to wear a bra.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/education/teachers-upset-new-dress-code-requiring-underwear/nf77z/

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 08:12:00 PM »

Yes.  If the above rule is being met what business is it of anybody if someone is wearing underwear or not?  And how do the propose to check/enforce?  Surprise underwear checks?  No way this stands a union challenge.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 09:40:03 PM »

Yes.  If the above rule is being met what business is it of anybody if someone is wearing underwear or not?  And how do the propose to check/enforce?  Surprise underwear checks?  No way this stands a union challenge.

Frankly, I agree with you.

For the ladies, what kind or brand of bras are they going to legislate?

And you are correct about weird snap inspections, is the superintendent or his/her deputy going to pinch the back of every female and snap her bra?
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2014, 10:54:15 AM »


And you are correct about weird snap inspections, is the superintendent or his/her deputy going to pinch the back of every female and snap her bra?
You can bet that if the superintendent/deputy is male, inspections will be a regular occurrence  Cheesy

Quite frankly, there's really nothing in those rules to which I would personally object. It's really sad that such rules have to be spelled out. I rather suspect that the real objection is not against the rules themselves but against the very idea that "someone is telling moi how to dress. How dare they!" There was once a time when people knew how to dress tastefully. When I was in teacher training in the mid-70s, men had to wear ties and women had to wear skirts/dresses. (In real life, that practice was already on its way out.)
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2014, 11:07:54 AM »

Yes.  If the above rule is being met what business is it of anybody if someone is wearing underwear or not?  And how do the propose to check/enforce?  Surprise underwear checks?  No way this stands a union challenge.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2014, 11:11:51 AM »

There are plenty of teachers who need this rule. Its shocking how some of them dress at the school I work at...especially the 74 year-old cat-lady-hoarder-insane-math teacher.

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 12:05:51 PM »

There are plenty of teachers who need this rule. Its shocking how some of them dress at the school I work at...especially the 74 year-old cat-lady-hoarder-insane-math teacher.

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 12:31:48 PM »

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It goes on to state, “No see-through or sheer clothing shall be allowed, and no skin shall be visible between pants/trousers, skirts, and shirts/blouses at any time.”

Female teachers are also required to wear a bra.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/education/teachers-upset-new-dress-code-requiring-underwear/nf77z/

Would you fight against this rule?

I would not fight at all.  There is NO WAY I'd send my children to public school.  If teachers are seriously upset about having to dress "modestly" in front of students, I think there are many more things deep down that are wrong.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 12:52:28 PM »

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It goes on to state, “No see-through or sheer clothing shall be allowed, and no skin shall be visible between pants/trousers, skirts, and shirts/blouses at any time.”

Female teachers are also required to wear a bra.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/education/teachers-upset-new-dress-code-requiring-underwear/nf77z/

Would you fight against this rule?

I would not fight at all.  There is NO WAY I'd send my children to public school.  If teachers are seriously upset about having to dress "modestly" in front of students, I think there are many more things deep down that are wrong.

Where I was teaching at the community college, there were a bunch of autistic boys and young men who would suddenly reach down into a teacher's blouse and grab her breasts if the blouses were low cut. Thus, teachers were encouraged to wear longer skirts or slacks with vests on top of their modest blouses.

Autism/Aspergers was a blessing in that sense.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 12:54:54 PM »

Years ago I had an art teacher who didn't have a belt, never pulled her pants up and apparently didn't have any underwear. I remember how she picked up a dropped pencil in front of my desk. A horrid sight if ever there was one.
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2014, 01:16:56 PM »

Years ago I had an art teacher who didn't have a belt, never pulled her pants up and apparently didn't have any underwear. I remember how she picked up a dropped pencil in front of my desk. A horrid sight if ever there was one.

Don't they teach custody of the eyes anymore?   Roll Eyes

I know what you mean as I took a ceramics class where my professor had trouble keeping his pants up. He wore those low cut jeans and every time he would bend over or even sit at the wheel, we would have to avert our eyes from his backside.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2014, 01:42:57 PM »

Would you fight against this rule?
I read in the news about female teachers on trial for having sex with their male underage high school pupils. For well endowed female teachers to come to class with see through blouses, basically exposing their breasts, could be sending the wrong message to the underage boys in her class.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2014, 02:02:49 PM »

Would you fight against this rule?
Yes. I read in the news about female teachers on trial for having sex with their male underage high school pupils. For well endowed female teachers to come to class with see through blouses, basically exposing their breasts, could be sending the wrong message to the underage boys in her class.

Boys will always like big breasts, but a teacher still needs the proper morals and common sense that you do NOT have sex with students.  No excuse, regardless of what a teacher wears.
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2014, 05:02:32 PM »

Would you fight against this rule?
Yes. I read in the news about female teachers on trial for having sex with their male underage high school pupils. For well endowed female teachers to come to class with see through blouses, basically exposing their breasts, could be sending the wrong message to the underage boys in her class.

Boys will always like big breasts, but a teacher still needs the proper morals and common sense that you do NOT have sex with students.  No excuse, regardless of what a teacher wears.

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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2014, 10:23:50 PM »

Would you fight against this rule?
Yes. I read in the news about female teachers on trial for having sex with their male underage high school pupils. For well endowed female teachers to come to class with see through blouses, basically exposing their breasts, could be sending the wrong message to the underage boys in her class.

Boys will always like big breasts, but a teacher still needs the proper morals and common sense that you do NOT have sex with students.  No excuse, regardless of what a teacher wears.

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Would you fight against this rule?
Yes. I read in the news about female teachers on trial for having sex with their male underage high school pupils. For well endowed female teachers to come to class with see through blouses, basically exposing their breasts, could be sending the wrong message to the underage boys in her class.

Boys will always like big breasts, but a teacher still needs the proper morals and common sense that you do NOT have sex with students.  No excuse, regardless of what a teacher wears.

You can put a religious habit on a whore, but if she has not repented, she is still a whore.
It doesn't matter what a female teacher wears; if she has sex with a student, it makes her a pedophile.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2014, 07:16:55 PM »

Would you fight against this rule?
Yes. I read in the news about female teachers on trial for having sex with their male underage high school pupils. For well endowed female teachers to come to class with see through blouses, basically exposing their breasts, could be sending the wrong message to the underage boys in her class.

Boys will always like big breasts, but a teacher still needs the proper morals and common sense that you do NOT have sex with students.  No excuse, regardless of what a teacher wears.

You can put a religious habit on a whore, but if she has not repented, she is still a whore.
It doesn't matter what a female teacher wears; if she has sex with a student, it makes her a pedophile.

Actually it doesn't, depending on the age of the student; it makes her a statutory rapist.  Pedophile is a psychological term, not a legal one.
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2014, 08:19:37 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2014, 08:23:12 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.

You're right, it's ephebophilia.
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2014, 08:50:56 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.

Ever heard of the term in loco parentis? Morally and legally, such a "relationship" is plain wrong.
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2014, 09:05:29 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.

You're right, it's ephebophilia.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2014, 09:37:28 PM »

I wonder if Yesh would feel differently if his children were in school.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2014, 05:17:13 PM »

http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/duchess-of-cambridge-agate/

Duchess of Cambridge made the news for her lack of appropriate underwear.
It is sad that this type of sleazy gossip is called news.

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To wear or not wear underclothes is not a feminist argument, nor is there one right answer to the questions being asked about the necessity of wearing boob or bottom protection. To wear or not wear some form of cover-up is a choice made by an individual, usually without much contemplation or strategizing, because sometimes you feel like it, and sometimes you don’t. It’s just not that complicated.

What one wears in the bedroom is different from what one wears in the streets. However, what one wears in the bedroom could be worn in the streets without questions if a 9.0 earthquake or fire were to happen.

Even still, teachers and people who work around children, especially the autistic, need to dress appropriately, and slacks would be a better option.
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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2014, 05:23:54 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.

You're right, it's ephebophilia.

Only if the teacher's primary or exclusive sexual interest is for individuals around 16.
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You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.

Ever heard of the term in loco parentis? Morally and legally, such a "relationship" is plain wrong.

Eros has always been part of the teacher-student relationship; from the Athenians to Abelard and Heloise to, apparently, some of our contemporary teachers. It would seem that there are some precedents.

That being said, all teachers who engage in that kind of activity should receive the treatment Abelard got.


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You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.

You're right, it's ephebophilia.

Wikipedia: 'Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction.'
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2014, 07:06:51 PM »

I remember in the 70s that the debate was about female students and teachers wearing pants and Jeans, we digress into underwear now.
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2014, 01:25:32 PM »

In 7th I was attracted to the 22 year old substitute teacher. Needless to say, it went so far that I actually stole my mother's wedding ring and asked this woman to marry me, the whole class erupting into laughter. It made me a celebrity for the rest of Jr. High Smiley it wasn't so much that she dressed inappropriately as much as it was that I was simply an animal. I wonder if this is the case with other students.
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« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2014, 01:34:53 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.
if you got caught, you would find out what the state law was.
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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2014, 01:38:01 PM »

In 7th I was attracted to the 22 year old substitute teacher. Needless to say, it went so far that I actually stole my mother's wedding ring and asked this woman to marry me, the whole class erupting into laughter. It made me a celebrity for the rest of Jr. High Smiley it wasn't so much that she dressed inappropriately as much as it was that I was simply an animal. I wonder if this is the case with other students.
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2014, 01:39:44 PM »

Yes.  If the above rule is being met what business is it of anybody if someone is wearing underwear or not?  And how do the propose to check/enforce?  Surprise underwear checks?  No way this stands a union challenge.
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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2014, 01:43:45 PM »

Yes.  If the above rule is being met what business is it of anybody if someone is wearing underwear or not?  And how do the propose to check/enforce?  Surprise underwear checks?  No way this stands a union challenge.

Frankly, I agree with you.

For the ladies, what kind or brand of bras are they going to legislate?

And you are correct about weird snap inspections, is the superintendent or his/her deputy going to pinch the back of every female and snap her bra?
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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2014, 01:52:22 PM »

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It goes on to state, “No see-through or sheer clothing shall be allowed, and no skin shall be visible between pants/trousers, skirts, and shirts/blouses at any time.”

Female teachers are also required to wear a bra.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/education/teachers-upset-new-dress-code-requiring-underwear/nf77z/

Would you fight against this rule?

I would not fight at all.  There is NO WAY I'd send my children to public school.  If teachers are seriously upset about having to dress "modestly" in front of students, I think there are many more things deep down that are wrong.
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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2014, 02:42:36 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.
if you got caught, you would find out what the state law was.

State law doesn't get to define pædophilia.
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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2014, 02:43:02 PM »

In 7th I was attracted to the 22 year old substitute teacher. Needless to say, it went so far that I actually stole my mother's wedding ring and asked this woman to marry me, the whole class erupting into laughter. It made me a celebrity for the rest of Jr. High Smiley it wasn't so much that she dressed inappropriately as much as it was that I was simply an animal. I wonder if this is the case with other students.

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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2014, 02:44:06 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.
if you got caught, you would find out what the state law was.

State law doesn't get to define pædophilia.
tell that to the warden. police
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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2014, 03:45:41 PM »


And you are correct about weird snap inspections, is the superintendent or his/her deputy going to pinch the back of every female and snap her bra?
You can bet that if the superintendent/deputy is male, inspections will be a regular occurrence  Cheesy


On behalf of the LBGTQ community, I think that is a male chauvinist pig, sexist comment!
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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2014, 06:51:12 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.
if you got caught, you would find out what the state law was.

State law doesn't get to define pædophilia.
tell that to the warden. police

Depends upon the age of consent, which varies in each state.
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« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2014, 02:39:56 AM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.
if you got caught, you would find out what the state law was.

State law doesn't get to define pædophilia.
tell that to the warden. police

I really hope you're being deliberately obtuse and that you dont actually fail to understand the difference between pædophilia and statutory rape.
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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2014, 10:00:14 AM »


And you are correct about weird snap inspections, is the superintendent or his/her deputy going to pinch the back of every female and snap her bra?
You can bet that if the superintendent/deputy is male, inspections will be a regular occurrence  Cheesy


On behalf of the LBGTQ community, I think that is a male chauvinist pig, sexist comment!

Drop the guacamole and quinoa and you could get a decent BLT out of that.
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2014, 10:33:56 AM »


And you are correct about weird snap inspections, is the superintendent or his/her deputy going to pinch the back of every female and snap her bra?
You can bet that if the superintendent/deputy is male, inspections will be a regular occurrence  Cheesy


On behalf of the LBGTQ community, I think that is a male chauvinist pig, sexist comment!

Drop the guacamole and quinoa and you could get a decent BLT out of that.

Avocados on a quinoa salad are delightful.  Bacon just makes it better.
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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2014, 07:26:34 PM »


And you are correct about weird snap inspections, is the superintendent or his/her deputy going to pinch the back of every female and snap her bra?
You can bet that if the superintendent/deputy is male, inspections will be a regular occurrence  Cheesy


On behalf of the LBGTQ community, I think that is a male chauvinist pig, sexist comment!

Drop the guacamole and quinoa and you could get a decent BLT out of that.

You guys are making me hungry. I used to buy the Petit Pain Pascal at Trader Joes, but they are getting new vendors: local bakeries in each area to supply these marvelous little loaves of organic whole wheat bread (if vendors can be found).

I like to dress my sandwiches with avocadoes.

BLT = Butter, Lettuce, and Tomato sandwiches. Yum.
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« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2014, 07:33:42 PM »

You you guys saying pedophile by "law" as in state law or moral law?

If it was a 22 year old teacher and 16 year old student, some people (including myself) - don't exactly think of that is pedophilia.
if you got caught, you would find out what the state law was.

State law doesn't get to define pædophilia.
tell that to the warden. police

I really hope you're being deliberately obtuse and that you dont actually fail to understand the difference between pædophilia and statutory rape.
sorry, I don't recognize words with "æ" in English.
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