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« Reply #90 on: May 23, 2014, 01:58:32 PM »
Next? :)

Out of curiosity, which website did you copy and paste that from?

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« Reply #91 on: May 23, 2014, 02:03:55 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

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« Reply #93 on: May 23, 2014, 02:10:05 PM »
God bless!

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« Reply #94 on: May 23, 2014, 02:12:41 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

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« Reply #95 on: May 23, 2014, 02:15:00 PM »
Serpentslayer, is that you?

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,53646.0.html
Could it be?!?!?!  I loved that guy!!!!

I hope so. I need a good dose of weird today.
His departure last time was too soon.
God bless!

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #96 on: May 23, 2014, 02:17:00 PM »
Serpentslayer, is that you?

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,53646.0.html
Could it be?!?!?!  I loved that guy!!!!

I hope so. I need a good dose of weird today.
His departure last time was too soon.
True.  If Stephen Levi sticks it out after 20+ posts, we'll be good.
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #97 on: May 23, 2014, 07:59:52 PM »
Revelation, Chapter 1, 4: John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation, Chapter 3, 1: And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation, Chapter 4, 5: And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Revelation, Chapter 5, 6: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

I'll try again from the beginning. You have posted three passages from the Book of Revelation. You say that the Spirit inspired you to do so. This may be true, but what people are asking for, is the purpose, with which these passages have been posted. What are you trying to tell us with this? This is what people have been asking for.
Here is 1 purpose, to discuss the scriptures that I posted, with anyone who will do so with me. Do you need any more?

So you want to discuss the meaning of the passages? Great!
This was what people asked about in the beginning.

I cannot, at the moment, tell you what the Church teaches, concerning this issue, though other poster may be able to do so. However, I will try and see if I can find anything.

Of course, I would also like to hear your input.


+1!  Exactly!  When you post something, please give us an original purpose.  Don't just post something and expect us to figure out what you want.  Otherwise, that's trolling behavior, not welcoming behavior as part of the oc.net community.

When you posted the verses, it could be a couple of things, whether you're confused about them, or you want to know if there are any ancient commentaries about them, or if there was a dogmatic belief on 7 spirits as has been understood, etc.  But to quote four verses without stating your purpose can mean many things.  It can mean some Hindu sage who wishes to use verses and then teach us his own heresies throughout the thread.  And I'm not making that up.  We had a lot of unwelcome visitors of the forum trolling our site.
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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #98 on: May 23, 2014, 10:55:59 PM »
Stephen,

Welcome to the forum.

One of our Ethiopian Orthodox members started a "verses" thread in the Oriental Orthodox section, where people can post verses.

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,29778.0.html#top

That would be an appropriate place to post verses without questions or discussion.  Elsewhere, it doesn't really make sense since this is a discussion forum.

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #99 on: May 23, 2014, 11:00:28 PM »
Romans, Chapter 8, 2: For the law of the Spirit of life in
Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


Revelation, Chapter 11, 11: And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

The Seven Spirits of God

1. The Spirit of Life

2. The Spirit of Prophecy

Revelation, Chapter 19, 10:   And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus
is
the spirit of prophecy.

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #100 on: May 23, 2014, 11:02:48 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #101 on: May 23, 2014, 11:03:42 PM »
As you can see I am within the word of God.

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #102 on: May 23, 2014, 11:07:35 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #103 on: May 23, 2014, 11:07:55 PM »
As you can see I am within the word of God.

Your point?
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« Reply #104 on: May 23, 2014, 11:09:38 PM »
As you can see I am within the word of God.

Your point?
Matthew, Chapter 7, 6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

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« Reply #105 on: May 23, 2014, 11:09:51 PM »
Revelation, Chapter 1, 4: John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation, Chapter 3, 1: And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation, Chapter 4, 5: And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Revelation, Chapter 5, 6: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Aprigngius of Beja considered the seven spirits to be the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit.  Oecumenius  considered the seven spirits to be angels.  Andrew of Caserea considered them to be either one or the other.  Prmasius considered them to be the Holy Spirit.  I retrieved this information from Revelation / edited by William C. Weinrich (Ancient Christian commentary on Scripture, New Testament; v. 12).

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« Reply #106 on: May 23, 2014, 11:12:04 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Are you humble? Yes or no?

The Lord instructed me to ask you is humility is your strong suit.  Yes or no?

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #107 on: May 23, 2014, 11:12:55 PM »
As you can see I am within the word of God.

Your point?
Matthew, Chapter 7, 6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Mark 9:35
And He sat down, called the twelve, and said to them, “If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.”
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

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« Reply #108 on: May 23, 2014, 11:26:46 PM »
As you can see I am within the word of God.

Your point?
Matthew, Chapter 7, 6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Mark 9:35
And He sat down, called the twelve, and said to them, “If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.”
Do you desire to be first? yes or no?

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« Reply #109 on: May 23, 2014, 11:28:40 PM »
As you can see I am within the word of God.

Your point?
Matthew, Chapter 7, 6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Mark 9:35
And He sat down, called the twelve, and said to them, “If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.”
Do you desire to be first? yes or no?

What do Christ's words in that passage mean to you, Stephen?
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« Reply #110 on: May 23, 2014, 11:30:11 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Are you humble? Yes or no?

The Lord instructed me to ask you is humility is your strong suit.  Yes or no?



I have no idea if the "instructions" you're receiving are indeed from God. We are to test the spirits, after all.
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

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« Reply #111 on: May 24, 2014, 12:27:50 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Are you humble? Yes or no?

The Lord instructed me to ask you is humility is your strong suit.  Yes or no?



I have no idea if the "instructions" you're receiving are indeed from God. We are to test the spirits, after all.
I have been testing your spirit.

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« Reply #112 on: May 24, 2014, 12:29:17 PM »
The Spirit of Life

Let's discuss it.

Tell me, what do you know about The Spirit of Life?

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« Reply #113 on: May 24, 2014, 12:31:19 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Are you humble? Yes or no?

The Lord instructed me to ask you is humility is your strong suit.  Yes or no?



I have no idea if the "instructions" you're receiving are indeed from God. We are to test the spirits, after all.
I have been testing your spirit.
And the results?  I'd give an "A".
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

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« Reply #114 on: May 24, 2014, 12:37:40 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Are you humble? Yes or no?

The Lord instructed me to ask you is humility is your strong suit.  Yes or no?



I have no idea if the "instructions" you're receiving are indeed from God. We are to test the spirits, after all.
I have been testing your spirit.
And the results?  I'd give an "A".
I hate the praise of men. Do not ever praise me.

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« Reply #115 on: May 24, 2014, 12:38:37 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Are you humble? Yes or no?

The Lord instructed me to ask you is humility is your strong suit.  Yes or no?



I have no idea if the "instructions" you're receiving are indeed from God. We are to test the spirits, after all.
I have been testing your spirit.
And the results?  I'd give an "A".
I hate the praise of men. Do not ever praise me.
That "A" wasn't for you.
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

"But God doesn't need your cookies!  Arrive on time!"

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« Reply #116 on: May 24, 2014, 12:43:41 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  When I see something worth discussing with someone, I will do so.  I avoid vain and foolish questions, as it is written...

2 Timothy, Chapter 2, 23:    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Humility doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Are you humble? Yes or no?

The Lord instructed me to ask you is humility is your strong suit.  Yes or no?



I have no idea if the "instructions" you're receiving are indeed from God. We are to test the spirits, after all.
I have been testing your spirit.
And the results?  I'd give an "A".
I hate the praise of men. Do not ever praise me.
That "A" wasn't for you.
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

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« Reply #117 on: May 24, 2014, 12:47:58 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

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« Reply #118 on: May 24, 2014, 12:52:01 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.

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« Reply #119 on: May 24, 2014, 12:52:45 PM »
I have the Spirit of Wisdom.

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« Reply #120 on: May 24, 2014, 12:55:55 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.
Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

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« Reply #121 on: May 24, 2014, 01:01:46 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.
Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you.

Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?

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« Reply #122 on: May 24, 2014, 01:05:48 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.
Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you.

Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?


I, too, will also ask ye one thing, as it increases my posting level to the max, which if ye tell me, I shall tell ye, so that ye may tell me; so mote it be.

Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

Once Christ has filled the Cross, it can never be empty again.

"But God doesn't need your cookies!  Arrive on time!"

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« Reply #123 on: May 24, 2014, 01:08:26 PM »
I have the Spirit of Wisdom.

Tell us more.

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« Reply #124 on: May 24, 2014, 01:10:20 PM »
I have the Spirit of Wisdom.

Tell us more.



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« Reply #125 on: May 24, 2014, 01:24:54 PM »
It's common knowledge that you secretly want to be born in early 17th century Russia.  As a serf or a royal, I know not.  Chances are serf.

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« Reply #126 on: May 24, 2014, 01:34:16 PM »
As you can see I am within the word of God.

Isn't everybody? Still a lot of disagreements :).
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« Reply #127 on: May 24, 2014, 01:35:19 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.
Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you.

Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?


I, too, will also ask ye one thing, as it increases my posting level to the max, which if ye tell me, I shall tell ye, so that ye may tell me; so mote it be.

Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?

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« Reply #128 on: May 24, 2014, 01:49:07 PM »
" so mote it be" is a Masonic response of assent.
Are you a Mason?

You identify yourself as a Christian - but nothing more; would you enlighten us a little more specifically?
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« Reply #129 on: May 24, 2014, 01:52:39 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.
Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
That has already been answered in Reply #118

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #130 on: May 24, 2014, 02:51:03 PM »
Revelation, Chapter 1, 4: John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation, Chapter 3, 1: And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation, Chapter 4, 5: And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Revelation, Chapter 5, 6: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

I'll try again from the beginning. You have posted three passages from the Book of Revelation. You say that the Spirit inspired you to do so. This may be true, but what people are asking for, is the purpose, with which these passages have been posted. What are you trying to tell us with this? This is what people have been asking for.
Here is 1 purpose, to discuss the scriptures that I posted, with anyone who will do so with me. Do you need any more?

So you want to discuss the meaning of the passages? Great!
This was what people asked about in the beginning.

I cannot, at the moment, tell you what the Church teaches, concerning this issue, though other poster may be able to do so. However, I will try and see if I can find anything.

Of course, I would also like to hear your input.


+1!  Exactly!  When you post something, please give us an original purpose.  Don't just post something and expect us to figure out what you want.  Otherwise, that's trolling behavior, not welcoming behavior as part of the oc.net community.

When you posted the verses, it could be a couple of things, whether you're confused about them, or you want to know if there are any ancient commentaries about them, or if there was a dogmatic belief on 7 spirits as has been understood, etc.  But to quote four verses without stating your purpose can mean many things.  It can mean some Hindu sage who wishes to use verses and then teach us his own heresies throughout the thread.  And I'm not making that up.  We had a lot of unwelcome visitors of the forum trolling our site.
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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #131 on: May 24, 2014, 03:02:48 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.
Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
That has already been answered in Reply #118
Being instructed is different from being controlled.  My question still stands.
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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #132 on: May 24, 2014, 03:08:15 PM »
Thank you.  I hate the praise of men.

You're doing a great job with this thread.
That glory belongs to the Spirit of God. I have only posted what I was instructed to post.
Who/what instructed you?  Is it controlling you right now?
That has already been answered in Reply #118
Being instructed is different from being controlled.  My question still stands.
Are you saying that the instructions, that the Spirit of the Lord, did not control me, when I obeyed them? Yes or no?

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #133 on: May 24, 2014, 03:09:39 PM »
When you try to bother me with these kind of questions...picture yourself in a pool of quicksand.  And every little move you make...you sink and get stuck a little bit more.

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Re: The Spirits of God
« Reply #134 on: May 24, 2014, 03:09:50 PM »
Have you looked at the Nicene Creed -  which Orthodox recite at every Liturgy because it contains the total of our beliefs in God:
I believe in one God;
  the Father Almighty......
  and in one  Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God .....
  and in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life..........

This is what we believe about the Life-Giver. It is through Him that we are sustained and nourished, it is through Him that we receive the Grace of God, for He is God.
He is everywhere present and fills all things; it is He who abides in us, cleanses us from every stain of sin, and saves our souls.
He is God.
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