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Size of Chalice
« on: May 11, 2014, 11:44:29 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RGK3Qf0M4A

Is the size of this chalice on the altar the norm for large cathedrals?  It took me by surprise that there is just one huge cup instead of several chalices for communion.

Any input would be appreciated!

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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2014, 10:00:36 AM »
Not always quite this big, but during the Consecration of the Gifts only 1 Chalice is used to emphasize the unity - before the Communion of the Faithful, the contents may be separated into several Chalices.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RGK3Qf0M4A

Is the size of this chalice on the altar the norm for large cathedrals?  It took me by surprise that there is just one huge cup instead of several chalices for communion.

Any input would be appreciated!
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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 10:18:29 PM »
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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 04:43:18 PM »
Not always quite this big, but during the Consecration of the Gifts only 1 Chalice is used to emphasize the unity - before the Communion of the Faithful, the contents may be separated into several Chalices.


Thanks a lot for your answer.  Just out of curiosity, does anybody know how they are able to divide up such a large chalice without spilling anything?  I've only ever seen two chalices at most but that looks like it would be a tough task and I'm wondering if they use something special to do this.

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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 04:49:34 PM »
Perhaps there's a "great and holy ladle"...I've never seen such a thing, but I wouldn't be surprised. 
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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 04:51:39 PM »
Perhaps there's a "great and holy ladle"...I've never seen such a thing, but I wouldn't be surprised. 

Just looking at the size and how much has to be in there, I don't see how else they could divide up the communion into smaller chalices.

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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 05:11:35 PM »
Russians? Why I am not suprised.

There are chalices and then there are Russian chalices.
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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 05:32:50 PM »
Perhaps there's a "great and holy ladle"...I've never seen such a thing, but I wouldn't be surprised. 
The one I remember looked like a teplota cup with a long handle.  Sofrino probably makes them.
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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 05:39:39 PM »
Perhaps there's a "great and holy ladle"...I've never seen such a thing, but I wouldn't be surprised. 
The one I remember looked like a teplota cup with a long handle.  Sofrino probably makes them.

What doesn't Sofrino make?  :)
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 05:56:01 PM »
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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 07:14:03 PM »
Perhaps there's a "great and holy ladle"...I've never seen such a thing, but I wouldn't be surprised. 
The one I remember looked like a teplota cup with a long handle.  Sofrino probably makes them.

What doesn't Sofrino make?  :)

Very little, from what I've seen. They even make things which many a priest didn't know existed.  :laugh:
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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2014, 07:21:55 PM »
Everyone needs one of these.

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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 01:01:21 AM »
Everyone needs one of these.


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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2014, 01:31:16 AM »
Not always quite this big, but during the Consecration of the Gifts only 1 Chalice is used to emphasize the unity - before the Communion of the Faithful, the contents may be separated into several Chalices.


Thanks a lot for your answer.  Just out of curiosity, does anybody know how they are able to divide up such a large chalice without spilling anything?  I've only ever seen two chalices at most but that looks like it would be a tough task and I'm wondering if they use something special to do this.

A Priest could use the Communion  Spoon. All it takes to consecrate the wine is a few drops of consecrated wine. The same idea is found during the Divine Liturgy of the Prescantified Gifts, when placing a piece of the consecrated lamb into the unconsecrated wine in the Chalice consecrates the wine in the Chalice.  Years ago St. Vlacimir's Press published a book that discusses this issue. I believe that it is called "Evening Worship in the Orthodox Church."

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Re: Size of Chalice
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2014, 06:29:39 AM »
Indeed a ladle is used to put the Holy Gifts into smaller chalices.



Not always quite this big, but during the Consecration of the Gifts only 1 Chalice is used to emphasize the unity - before the Communion of the Faithful, the contents may be separated into several Chalices.


Thanks a lot for your answer.  Just out of curiosity, does anybody know how they are able to divide up such a large chalice without spilling anything?  I've only ever seen two chalices at most but that looks like it would be a tough task and I'm wondering if they use something special to do this.
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