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« on: April 10, 2014, 09:44:48 PM »

Does anyone know where the outer cassock worn by priests, bishops, and monks comes from? I ask because from what I've seen from photographs of Old Believer priests and monks, they only wear the inner cassock, even when wearing stole, cuffs, etc. for a service outside the Divine Liturgy. I'd originally thought that the outer cassock was borrowed from monks (and even Oriental Orthodox monks seem to wear an equivalent, as do OO priests) but it seems that even they didn't have it for a really long time. Does anyone know?
Examples: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FVxW_XpUv40/SviU8D93P_I/AAAAAAAAMOI/6IKL2yP12SE/w760-h577-no/IMG_1336.JPG Met. Korniliy of the Russian Orthodox Old-Rite Church
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/385111_336393323122856_2069333154_n.jpg A painting of Russian monks arguing with Greek monks, distinguished by their kalimafki, which the Russians also seem to have adopted only later
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 06:39:50 PM »

An exorasson was probably secular attire, like many other church vestments and details of clerical wear. If the eisorasson was an inner shirt, then the exorasson was like a coat with wide sleeves that was the same length as the eisorasson. It could be that the eisorasson is more practical than the mantiya, and that is why monastic clergymen usually wear the exorasson in preference to the mantiya. Hopefully someone more educated can contribute to this discussion.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2014, 09:05:34 PM »

So according to Kh. Krista West (from her Opinionated Tailor podcast: http://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/kwtailor/the_big_black_dress), the exorasson is identical to the robe worn by magistrates in the Ottoman Empire, and therefore was likely introduced between 1453 and 1600 as a consequence of Ottoman rule. This would explain it, and might also explain why the OOs have it as well, since the Syrians, Armenians, and Copts were all under the Sultan as well. The Ethiopian Orthodox have it too, though, but it's not unreasonable to guess that they borrowed it from the Copts.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2014, 01:09:22 AM »

So according to Kh. Krista West (from her Opinionated Tailor podcast: http://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/kwtailor/the_big_black_dress), the exorasson is identical to the robe worn by magistrates in the Ottoman Empire, and therefore was likely introduced between 1453 and 1600 as a consequence of Ottoman rule. This would explain it, and might also explain why the OOs have it as well, since the Syrians, Armenians, and Copts were all under the Sultan as well. The Ethiopian Orthodox have it too, though, but it's not unreasonable to guess that they borrowed it from the Copts.

That makes sense because under the Ottomans clergy acted as judges in certain cases involving their congregations.

Fr. John W. Morris
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