Then where does Judaism come from?
I haven't asserted a thing, except the facts that "most" =/= "all," and Judaism isn't an offshoot of paganism (a rather amorphous term).
I haven't asked you to barf up more rancid bites of pseudoscholarship that some "experts" have prechewed for you, such as "Most of Judaism mythology = Middle Eastern mythology that was prelevant among heathen peoples." For one thing, "most" =/= "all."
Nor is "none" as you asserted.
I'm from Chicago. Doesn't make me a Democrat.
The Bible says that Abraham came from the heathen? Oh, where does it say that?
Abraham's departure from Ur. We are later told that Abraham's relatives in Ur were worshipping idols(Rachel stealing the idols of he fathers). You can find Abraham's departure from Ur in the Jewish Scriptures, Christian Scriptures and Muslims Scriptures. Make your pick.
Rachel and her father grew up in Harran, after Abraham departed from it.
Btw, Abraham's departure from Ur isn't in Muslim Scriptures. That would be enough to make me question your grasp of the material at hand, if it hadn't been evident before.
It doesn't matter. Paganism precedes any drop of Judaism and/or Christianity. The background where Abraham came from was most likely pagan.
Yes, it does seem that facts do not matter to you.
You have again repeated your assertion, but continue to refuse to offer any evidence of it.
And even if true, and?
Yes, I'm aware of the theory of a Yahweh-Astarte pair, and the meagre evidence twisted into such a narrative. The Biblical narrative of the Hebrews falling into Canaanite paganism and assimilating the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob into it fits better.
Scholars say that most of the Tanakh was written during the Babylonian captivity to explain the Jewish condition.
And it is a lie. It did not happen. What part of that reasoning don't you understand?
The lack of reason.
The crap you're reading was written over two thousand years after the Babylonian captivity, and yet you take it as the Gospel truth as to the condition of the Pentateuch. Rejecting evidence because it isn't contemporary isn't reason, it's a fallacy.
Btw, if you are going swallow something, you should at least know what is in it: the Documentary Hypothesis holds that the Torah (not
the Tanakh) was redacted/edited
during the Babylonian captivity from older sources that the Hyposthesis holds predated the captivity by half a millenium or so in composition.
To give you an idea of your problem with simplistic analysis: the earliest manuscript of the Rig Veda dates from 1464. The recension dates, however to the 1st century BC, the redaction about 1000 BC of oral material dating back to a half millenium before. The early date is confirmed by linguistic evidence-the glottochronology of the language (and subject matter) show links to the Iranian Avesta, and to the meagre contemporary epigraphic remains (found in Northern Mesopotamia, btw).
Since you haven't identified what problem I'd have, we have no basis to discuss your last question.
The documentary hypothesis is for one thing, plural: its partisans can't agree amongst themselves on it. Since the Pentateuch/Torah doesn't say that Moses wrote it, there doesn't seem to be much point on arguing it.Then you got a problem. Because if Moses didn't write it then who did? There is little to no proof of the historicy of Moses or the existence of Israel in Egypt and the Exodus. What basis do you have for the inspiration of the Torah?
As for the existence of Israel, that is securely dated as a people c.1208 BC
Dubious inscription to say the least and not a definite proof. No certain proof that that is actually Israel just because 3 letters from 6 match. It is a communality in manhood for cities to have similar prefixes or suffixes or whatever. There is an Arad in Israel and an Arad in Romania and they are diametrically opposed, having nothing to do one with the other.
Alas! for your narrative, not dubious in the least: there is no doubt at to its contemporary date. 6 letters from 6 letters match for the name of a people that the Stele (which has no dependence on the Hebrew Scriptures) locates where the Hebrew Scriptures (which does not know of the Stele) places them at the time, their neighbors also matching in both sources.
"It is a communality in manhood for cities to have similar prefixes or suffixes or whatever." You will have to edit this to even try to make sense-even then it seems it will have neither point nor evidence.
Arad in Palestine actually starts with a sound Romanian lacks. That it appears similar in English has no bearing on the truth, as their names in Hebrew and Romanian have nothing to do with one another.
As for the Exodus, go find another monument that the Egyptians erected to commemorate their defeat by anyone. The Egyptian historian Manentho does record an expulsion of foreigners who, according to him, settled in Palestine and founded Jerusalem.
Hmmmm. Who could that be?
I'll need to see some quotations for that.
These people, whom we have called kings before, and shepherds too, and their descendants," as he [Manetho] says, "held Egypt for five hundred and eleven years. Then," he says, "the kings of Thebes and the other parts of Egypt rose against the shepherds, and a long and terrible war was fought between them." http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/manetho_hyksos.htm
He says further, "By a king, named Alisphragmuthosis, the shepherds were subdued, and were driven out of the most parts of Egypt and shut up in a place named Avaris, measuring ten thousand acres." Manetho says, "The shepherds had built a wall surrounding this city, which was large and strong, in order to keep all their possessions and plunder in a place of strength.
Tethmosis , son of Alisphragmuthosis, attempted to take the city by force and by siege with four hundred and eighty thousand men surrounding it. But he despaired of taking the place by siege, and concluded a treaty with them, that they should leave Egypt, and go, without any harm coming to them, wherever they wished. After the conclusion of the treaty they left with their families and chattels, not fewer than two hundred and forty thousand people, and crossed the desert into Syria. Fearing the Assyrians, who dominated over Asia at that time, they built a city in the country which we now call Judea. It was large enough to contain this great number of men and was called Jerusalem.
Care to put some meat on that dry bone? as opposed to vague accusation? Otherwise, we have no basis of comparison to weigh your "claims."
"Some of the laws in the Torah and the stories in it are totally unappealing to intelligent ethics and values." I know that they don't appeal to the smug who think they know better, and don't want anything prove the contrary. Atheism-the opiate of the dissolute.Actually the Judeo-Christian-Islamic theology is the one who appeals to smugs and trolls who find justification of criminal, obscure acts in their religion.
Considering that the laws are primitive and cannot be universally bind as ethical and that it had many authors and editor, what makes your "torah" inspired and authoritative? Where it's her authority drawed from?
Sure.. Animal sacrifice
so you're a vegetarian?
I'll have to deal with the rest of your nonsense later.