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Offline fennik

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Creation
« on: April 01, 2005, 01:31:09 AM »
I was reading somewhere that God was talking to some guy and God told him that he could only ctreate a single cell and hope that it would  develope over time into what we are today...known as revolution. Is that true? God aslso stated to this guy that he lied about adam and eve. Inform me on what really happend or most likely the way we where created.
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Re: Creation
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 05:04:41 AM »
Inform me on what really happend or most likely the way we where created.

You forgot to say please.

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Re: Creation
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2005, 05:20:12 AM »
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Re: Creation
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2005, 05:59:58 AM »
Fennik,

What on earth are you talking about? It sounds as though you know someone who supposedly receives revelations direct from God and who told you a) God is not omnipotent (he could only create a single cell) and, b) God is a liar (at least with regards to Adam and Eve. Are you in the habit of taking such (to use an English term) nutters seriously?

There is a large debate going on on this forum with regards to creationism, evolution and intelligent design at the moment and I'd suggest you look there if you want to see people's opinions on the matter. Personally I believe God created the world as Genesis tells us, but Genesis does not say how he did this. I find young earth creationism and (neo-)Darwinism to be equally ludicrous and tend more toward the ID position, but there are others here who disagree. The point is neither Genesis, nor the Fathers nor modern science can definitively show us which position is correct - and I hardly think it is of the greatest importance with regard to personal salvation.

Can I suggest that you look to God and 'work out your salvation' rather than listening the incoherent gibberings of self-styled 'prophets'?

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Re: Creation
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2005, 06:38:46 AM »
If im not mistaken, Fennik seems to be referring to Matthew777's thread: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/newboard/index.php/topic,5707.0.html

I believe that was a fictional dialogue created by Matthew777; intended to make a certain implicit point..................

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Re: Creation
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2005, 07:04:53 AM »
EkhristosAnesti,

Yes, it looks as though you're right. I never bothered to read that dialogue before because I really dislike that sort of style. I have read the rest of the thread, though.

Having said that, it does rather look as though Fennik failed to grasp the point, it arguing precisely the opposite of what he seems to have understood from it. I'm glad to see that he doesn't seem to be listening to some New Age nutter, but he really could do with learning to look below the surface details of such posts.

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Re: Creation
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2005, 03:11:58 PM »
I was reading somewhere that God was talking to some guy and God told him that he could only ctreate a single cell and hope that it would develope over time into what we are today...known as revolution. Is that true? God aslso stated to this guy that he lied about adam and eve. Inform me on what really happend or most likely the way we where created.

I wrote that dialogue as a joke in order to show the perils of "theistic" evolution.
God created the earth in six days and rested on the seventh. He created Adam from the dust of the ground and Eve from Adam's rib.
As for the patristic understanding of Genesis, I reccomend that you please start with this:
Genesis and Early Man
The Orthodox Patristic Understanding
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/phronema/evolution_frseraphim_kalomiros.aspx

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Re: Creation
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2005, 07:31:15 PM »
Well thanks for clearing that up, i didnt know if the post that mathew put was a true fact stated by the bible or not.
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Re: Creation
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2005, 08:11:08 PM »
wow.
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Re: Creation
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2005, 02:56:34 AM »
Yeah well i havnt read the bible yet..not all anyways
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