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Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« on: February 25, 2014, 12:48:35 AM »
hello brothers and sisters.

i am a non-denominational Christian in America. i am in a protestant seminary now, and find God introducing me to the Orthodox faith. i am drawn to it, but also question a lot of practices.

my prayer is for God to guide my path, to keep me firmly in His hand and to lead me into all truth, no matter what.

i would greatly appreciate your prayers as i embark on this inquiry.

thank you, and God bless you all.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2014, 12:53:05 AM »
My prayers for you.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 01:51:28 AM »
thank you, i've made arrangements to, as well as to discuss with a priest. my seminary is also aligned with an Orthodox seminary and I may try to take some classes there.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2014, 02:35:51 AM »
thank you, i've made arrangements to, as well as to discuss with a priest. my seminary is also aligned with an Orthodox seminary and I may try to take some classes there.

Sounds good.

There have been several protestant seminarians who started taking courses at Orthodox seminaries and who decided to stay.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 03:05:40 AM »
God bless and good journey :)

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 09:50:09 PM »
Lord, have mercy on nicodemus144.

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 09:57:15 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 11:23:40 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 11:25:17 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 11:32:07 PM »
Lord, have mercy on your servant.

Welcome
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2014, 07:58:04 AM »
welcome!

i can't remember who from the forum said this:
what do you call a protestant who studies church history?
an orthodox catechumen!

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Re: Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2014, 09:09:49 AM »

^Good one!

Welcome to the forum,  nicodemus144...and to Orthodoxy.

Feel free to ask any questions here....however, keep in mind that we have many different personalities on this site.  Some will be informative, warm and kind, and others not so much.  Please never confuse the faithful with the Faith.  :)  Just a some friendly advice.

I know you will find Orthodoxy to be what you are searching for.  There are no stumbling blocks, only things that not quite understood.  I hope you find the answers to help you understand them.

Once again, welcome to the Forum, and I hope and pray to Orthodoxy, as well!
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Re: Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2014, 09:41:20 AM »
That is the best prayer!


my prayer is for God to guide my path, to keep me firmly in His hand and to lead me into all truth, no matter what.


And, this is the best advice!
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Feel free to ask any questions here....however, keep in mind that we have many different personalities on this site.  Some will be informative, warm and kind, and others not so much.  Please never confuse the faithful with the Faith.

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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2014, 10:22:16 AM »
Hi, Nicodemus. I hope your learning proves fruitful.  :angel:

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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2014, 01:00:09 PM »
Welcome Nicodemus!

I pray God Almighty you will find the same Richness and "welcome home" as I found 2 years ago.

And remember what has been said in Matthew 7

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7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ
Psalm 57:2 I will cry out to God Most High, To God who performs all things for me.
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Re: Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2014, 04:53:51 PM »
thank you all for your prayers and encouragement. i met with a wonderful priest yesterday and we talked for hours. the first of many such talks, i hope.

May God lead me and have mercy on me.
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2014, 05:50:31 PM »
Glad to hear it.  Thanks for keeping us updated.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2014, 03:09:41 PM »
i would like to add a special note to this prayer request.

i am happily married, and i thank God for that. but now my wife is becoming very uneasy and uncomfortable with my critiques of protestantism and my inquiry into Orthodoxy. it aches me, but i'm trying to patient and gentle with her as the Lord is with me.

i don't really know what to pray in that regard, but the Spirit does.

thank you all again.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2014, 03:13:48 PM »
Lord have mercy.
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2014, 03:54:17 PM »
i am happily married, and i thank God for that. but now my wife is becoming very uneasy and uncomfortable with my critiques of protestantism and my inquiry into Orthodoxy. it aches me, but i'm trying to patient and gentle with her as the Lord is with me.

nicodemus144, I really don't know that much but some things I am sure of.
For example, God doesn't do half work, when you seek He will make it so you will find, when you ask He will provide and marriage is and institution God Himself created.

You are married, seeking, and asking... so (and this is even more sure as math is) God will make it so you find and He will provide. And since God doesn't do half work, He won't forget your wife.

God won't, and I can't stress this enough, He won't do half work, ever.

Keep your trust in God, ask God to guide you in what to say.

I will keep you in my prayers.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2014, 08:59:33 PM »
There is hope. I've been there, keep praying as will I. Continued prayers. Lord, have mercy.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2014, 04:55:36 PM »
lots and lots of patience is the key.
i never realised it, but you gain very many virtues while being very loving and patient and open and allowing those closest to you to see (and criticize) the values dearest to your heart, as your spiritual journey leads you deeper into God's love.
the spiritual growth that can be achieved is very valuable.
being loving, forgiving and humble is as important as fasting and praying.
may God guide you (us!) all.

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2014, 11:05:49 AM »
thank you all for your prayers and support. while this inquiry is emotionally straining on my wife, we have not fought over it, thank God.

we have gotten to the point in our dialogue where she is willing for me to become Orthodox should i so chose, and that she may "catch up" with me later in her journey. she doesn't want me to wait for her as she doesn't know if it will ever happen.

that is at least something for me, that i could move forward in peace without feeling like i am forcing her to go, or she forcing me to stay. perhaps in this way we can let God move in our lives in His time, and should i become orthodox, perhaps it will be a witness to her to see that i haven't lost the Holy Spirit, but rather have been enriched in my walk. truth be told, my walk is already stronger just by being near orthodoxy, incorporating the hour prayers, speaking with a priest and studying the Orthodox Bible. it is hard to describe how, but it is somehow richer than my experiences learning in the Protestant world. somehow deeper, smoother, more elegant, refined, wise, graceful, loving, higher. i can't really pin it down with words.

anyway, sorry for rambling. i am enjoying my inquiry and it seems God is changing my heart in ways i did not expect.

may He continue to lead my wife and i into all truth and protect us from deception.

thank you all again.
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2014, 02:29:48 PM »
Welcome. I'll be praying for you. Have a nice journey.

i can't remember who from the forum said this:
what do you call a protestant who studies church history?
an orthodox catechumen!

 :D

Haha that's a good one!
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2014, 02:31:37 PM »
Feel free to ask any questions here....however, keep in mind that we have many different personalities on this site.  Some will be informative, warm and kind, and others not so much.  Please never confuse the faithful with the Faith.  :)  Just a some friendly advice.


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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2014, 09:49:29 PM »
I've requested to become a catechumen at my nearest OCA church. I would like for the priest to further guide my instruction and inquiry.

May the Lord mercifully keep me and lead me into all truth.

Thank you for your help, care and patience.
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2014, 05:49:32 AM »
Haleluja! I pray God will guide you all the way, the way He prepared for you and yours.
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2014, 08:00:42 AM »
I've requested to become a catechumen at my nearest OCA church. I would like for the priest to further guide my instruction and inquiry.

May the Lord mercifully keep me and lead me into all truth.

Thank you for your help, care and patience.

I would do this... if I could.

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2014, 06:49:54 PM »
nicodemus144 and xOrthodox4Christx, I pray that God guides you both in your journey to Orthodoxy.
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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2014, 06:43:08 PM »
thank you all for your prayers.

my priest and i have decided that it is not yet time for me to become a catechumen. we'd both prefer to continue to work out some things first. for him, to enter the catechumenate is like becoming engaged. i am ok with this.

i've picked up some books to read by Fr. Gillquist and Met. Kallistos, as well as one on TULIP from an Orthodox view.

i am also probably going to pull away from this forum for at least some time. the healing that must occur from here can only be done in the Church and with my priest, and the forum is becoming more harmful to me than good.

please continue to pray for me as there are many strong feelings trying to sway me away from this path.

thank you all again. be well.
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« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2014, 06:53:25 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2014, 07:00:31 PM »
Continued prayers.  Lord, have mercy.
Psalm 37:23 The Lord guides a man safely in the way he should go.

Prov. 3: 5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.

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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2014, 10:18:04 AM »
welcome!

i can't remember who from the forum said this:
what do you call a protestant who studies church history?
an orthodox catechumen!

 :D

This is what happened to me!

I don't know if you will see this since you planned not to be on the forum. Your posts especially made an impression on me because I am also struggling with the idea of my husband not approving. The answers others give you are encouraging.

My prayers will be with you, for your journey and illumination, as well as for peace between you and your wife and for The Lord to guide you both.

Lord have mercy on us all.
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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2014, 12:54:10 PM »
am doing badly and going on the forum again!
oh, well, i'll try to cut down in Holy Week.

by the way i am a lady and so my 'wife' is a husband.
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i have an icon picture of saint matthias because he is lovely, maybe it would have been easier if i had chosen a female saint, but i used an icon from the website as i haven't quite figured out how to post pictures.
i suspect it involves giving personal data such as computer name and extra 'cookies'.

may God bless u this coming Holy Week.
read the psalms about the messiah, and isaiah (at least chapters 45 - 63) and the last parts of all the gospels.

here is a beautiful prayer to Jesus:
http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/2473
(about His suffering for us)
and chanted in arabic here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09dd_phg4c
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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2014, 10:18:16 PM »
Lord have mercy.

I understand about the negativity. Sometimes it is best to stay in the convert and faith sections and not venture out.

Please do post an update if and when you come back.

Know that I am praying for you.
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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2014, 06:20:03 PM »
thank you for your continued prayers. :) we can definitely still use them, and they have been effective.

my wife and i have come a long way over these months. reading, studying, praying, seeking counsel. we meet with our priest every Saturday before Great Vespers to ask questions. it's rather miraculous but she's coming around in her own way and time. God is good.

we will begin attending an Orthodox church exclusively starting in July and hope to become catechumens together before the summer is out, Lord willing.

please keep us in prayer. many people are watching this process occur in our lives.
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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2014, 06:34:45 PM »
The Lord God Almighty is truly Almighty! Thank God!

Keep us posted so Gods great work in your lives will be a testimony and strengthen us in our faith as well.
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« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2014, 07:12:53 PM »
Continued prayers. Lord, have mercy.
Psalm 37:23 The Lord guides a man safely in the way he should go.

Prov. 3: 5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.

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« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2014, 09:26:04 PM »
Thanks again.

Just a quick update. Tonight, for the first time, my wife said that becoming Orthodox is no longer just something her husband wants. It's now something she wants and believes in.

Praise the Lord. What a miracle. He is good, answers prayers, and changes hearts.

Thank you all for your diligent and sacrificial prayer on our behalf. I thank the Lord for you all.
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« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2014, 10:47:18 PM »
Glory to God.
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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2014, 11:00:05 PM »
Wonderful news - Thanks be to God!!!
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Re: Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2014, 08:06:48 AM »
Glory to the most High, glory to God Almighty!
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ
Psalm 57:2 I will cry out to God Most High, To God who performs all things for me.
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Re: Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2014, 04:05:53 PM »
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very happy for you!
everyone else:
keep praying and loving and your faith will bless many people.
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Re: Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2014, 01:58:57 PM »
Experienced my first Divine Liturgy at St. Nicholas today! It was wonderful, reverent, lovely, bright, and full of love. I have never been so wrapped in the love and peace of God. The community was also very welcoming. Sarah and I greatly benefited from the experience.
“Does our law judge a man before it hears him and knows what he is doing?” -John 7:51 (NKJV)

I was investigating Orthodox Christianity.

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Re: Investigating Orthodox Christianity
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2014, 02:08:46 PM »
Experienced my first Divine Liturgy at St. Nicholas today! It was wonderful, reverent, lovely, bright, and full of love. I have never been so wrapped in the love and peace of God. The community was also very welcoming. Sarah and I greatly benefited from the experience.

Excellent! That's great news.
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