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This aremnian source explains that their creed is a Variant of the Nicene creed
Sure, you can call it the Nicene Creed, but it's not. Just read Nicaea.
Of course, the Creed we usually call "Nicene" now is not, properly speaking, "Nicene" because it is also "Constantinopolitan". But saying "Nicene-Constantinopolitan" can get to be an annoying mouthful, so "Nicene" has become an acceptable shorthand. I suspect the Armenians defaulted to that shorthand above rather than calling their liturgical
Creed "Nicene-Constantinagiopolepiphanian" or something insane like that. It's like how the Latins call their Creed "Nicene" even though it's not.
the Chaldean Church also doesn't use the Nicea-Constantinopolean Creed but some other variant of the Nicene Creed. This mustn't be strange, as there were different versions of the Nicene Creed in old times (of St Epiphanius, of the 12 Apostles, Athanasian etc).
What form of the Creed do the Chaldeans use?
And what do you think "Nicene Creed" means if you think the Athanasian Creed is one of its "variants"?
This again supports the notion of the creed being a variant of the Nicene creed with various additions or as the source says :
The Nicene Creed is a confession of our Christian faith. According to Holy Tradition, the Nicene Creed was composed on Pentecost by the twelve apostles. The creed contains twelve articles of Faith, each one written by one of the apostles.
When members of the Church began to teach incorrect or heretical opinions, it became necessary to elaborate on the Creed, based on the teaching of our Lord, which would refute false teachings and guard against them.
You're quoting a source which claims that the Nicene Creed (~AD 325) was composed on Pentecost by the apostles (~AD 33). We have examples of "creeds" in the NT, but the Nicene is not one of them. Right away, you should realise that "Nicene Creed" is not being used in an academic sense.
The Creed of Epiphanius helps to understand the source of the Armenian Creed, that is, that it is some Jerusalemian variant of the Nicene Creed. Proof is this is You may find most of those differences you have highlighted in the Creed of the Armenian Church also in the Creed of St Epiphanius. His creed that he mentions was the Jerusalem variant of the Nicne creed. This creed is thought to be the source of the Armenian Nicene creed as it is nearly identical to the Armenian creed:
Whose email response to you was this?
My post, linked to above, made one major point: "variant" Creeds exist and are used liturgically, but they must agree with the faith of the only authoritative Creed, which is the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, or else they couldn't be used by the Church for anything. For example, AFAIK no one has ever had a problem with Roman use of the "Apostles' Creed" despite it not being identical to the Nicene. Other than pointing out that the formulae are not identical, no one has demonstrated that the Armenian liturgical Creed is heterodox. But all of us, EO and OO, have a problem with the current Roman liturgical version of the Nicene Creed.
You're so focused on proving that the formula can have different words that you miss the part about how it has to be Orthodox and not heretical.
Lastly Romans have nothing else to do with eastern traditions as we are roman, we have our own traditions. So your complaint is pretty futile as it serves no purpose but to highlight the view of all of us regasing other traditions.
I'm aware that the Romans have their own traditions. Are the Romans aware that they have their own traditions?
My complaint, if you had understood it properly, was that when RC's think of "the East", they think "Byzantine". Very, very little think to look further East and explore points of contact between Roman and non-Byzantine Eastern traditions. For instance, Roman and Coptic liturgical traditions share things which Rome shares with no other Eastern Church, but no RC ever talks about those even though it would be beneficial to the RC's. There are some points of contact with the Latin West and the Syriac Church, but they don't care to examine those. When it comes to the Armenians, they only know about bishops' mitres, use of Judica me
at the beginning of the Liturgy, and apparently the Creed (for Filioque Defence purposes). For RC's, "East = Byzantine", and that's lamentable for them.