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Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« on: January 29, 2014, 01:09:52 AM »
I apologize in advance for the bad images this post may conjure.  My son is 19 months old now.  He has frequent bouts of diarrhea. It's chronic. It's something that occurs over a couple of days every couple of weeks.  We've tried altering his diet, cutting dairy, using coulturelle to help contain this but to no avail.  What makes it worse is that our daycare provider says she is at the end of her patience with us and our kid, complaining that my son craps out if his diaper which ruins her carpet and her clothes (not  to mention his) and that, because of these things,he demands more if her time.  We are planning to visit a pediatric GI doctor, but we are also very concerned that if our daycare provider drops us, he won't have a place to go and neither my wife and I can afford to stay home with him, we don't have family to provide day care, and other places would probably be hesitant to take him knowing this.  If you've had kids with this or know someone with the same thing , what did you do?  Again, this is not an ever now and then occurrence, but a frequent one so the BRAT diet is really not going to help.  Thanks.

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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 01:21:40 AM »
How have you tried altering his diet?

You really have to *completely* eliminate a given food at least a month or so in order to see a difference. As in when you eliminate dairy, you eliminate all milk proteins from all sources. Teething tables, breast milk from a mom that eats dairy, many cereals....the list goes on and on, have dairy in them.

Eliminating gluten is even harder since gluten exists in a variety of substances.
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 01:29:26 AM »
I will mention that one of the first signs that Taz was a celiac was that everything came out looking like it did when it went in, but only slightly discolored.

The foods to try eliminating first are; all cow milk proteins (including fats like butter), soy, and wheat. 

Have you attempted a food diary to see if there is any correlation between his loose stool and his diet?

I would start by feeding just the BRAT diet for a few days, then gradually introduce relatively gentle foods like potato, squash...etc.

Figuring out food intolerances and allergies is a long, time consuming process. It takes at least 2 weeks for some foods to leave the system. Something like gluten requires at least 6 weeks for initial results, 3-6 months for full results.

What types of food does he eat normally?

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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 10:26:03 PM »
I will mention that one of the first signs that Taz was a celiac was that everything came out looking like it did when it went in, but only slightly discolored.

The foods to try eliminating first are; all cow milk proteins (including fats like butter), soy, and wheat. 

Have you attempted a food diary to see if there is any correlation between his loose stool and his diet?

I would start by feeding just the BRAT diet for a few days, then gradually introduce relatively gentle foods like potato, squash...etc.

Figuring out food intolerances and allergies is a long, time consuming process. It takes at least 2 weeks for some foods to leave the system. Something like gluten requires at least 6 weeks for initial results, 3-6 months for full results.

What types of food does he eat normally?
This is great advice.  It sounds like an allergy to something IMHO.
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 11:16:58 PM »
Try making your own organic brown rice milk.

My Romanian Orthodox dentist recommends this.

Cook the organic brown rice using extra water. Then skim the rice water off the cooked rice. The warm rice milk is very soothing to the stomach. Use the cooked rice to make soup, or you can grind it in the blender with added water and feed that to your son as cream of rice.

If you are going to try a gluten free diet, go off all grains that have gluten: wheat, barley, oatmeal, spelt, and rye.
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 11:24:03 PM »
How have you tried altering his diet?

You really have to *completely* eliminate a given food at least a month or so in order to see a difference. As in when you eliminate dairy, you eliminate all milk proteins from all sources. Teething tables, breast milk from a mom that eats dairy, many cereals....the list goes on and on, have dairy in them.

Eliminating gluten is even harder since gluten exists in a variety of substances.

This. You must also be certain that your daycare provider isn't giving him any dairy either.

I'm sorry you're dealing with this, and it sounds like your daycare provider is being insensitive. GI troubles in little ones can be so frustrating. We have the opposite issue- my daughter is constantly constipated.  :-\ I hope you come up with a solution soon.
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 11:24:42 PM »
Do you remember when this started?

Are there other symptoms such as your son showing discomfort?
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 11:33:36 PM »
I assume everything is ok by now?
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 01:50:47 AM »
I assume everything is ok by now?

No.  It comes and goes.  We have an appointment with a pediatric GI specialist on Monday.  They probably won't be able to tell us much.  We've been keeping a food diary for my son (something they will most likely tell us to do anyway) and go from there. 
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2014, 04:08:44 PM »
The food diary will help a great deal.

Celiac disease in a toddler is almost unheard of. Our son is celiac, but we know that his was triggered by his life-threatening fight with RSV at 5 weeks of age.

Non-celiac gluten sensitivity is almost impossible to test for. But it is possible that is something you could be dealing with. You wouldn't know until your son was GF for a couple months. If for some reason, you suspect that your son needs to be off gluten, let me know. I can give you a ton of resources on going GF as a family (because your entire family would need to go GF for full results).
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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 11:39:17 PM »
Could the little guy need a pro-biotic to help balance out the flora in his digestive system?  I know pro-biotic help make one regular and ease digestive discomfort and problems from antibiotics which wipe out all flora, whether good or bad. But gut flora can get out of balance for many reasons. It is a question to ask the pediatrician.

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Re: Tretment for Chronic diarrhea
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2014, 02:32:00 AM »
Here's what's going on now.  We took him to a pediatric GI specialist at the local children's hospital.  My little guy had blood drawn and an X-ray of his stomach taken.  We were also told to provide some stool samples to them for additional tests.  ALl of the tests came back as negative. He doesn't have celiac disease or any other disease which may explain what is going on:  IBS, Crohn's, etc.  The X-ray found that he has pieces of stool lodged in his intestines which are just not coming out.  He was prescribed a laxative which we are to give him for a few days which will hopefully expel those pieces. 

Tamara, we have given him pro-biotic yogurts; i don't know whether they help or hurt.  We were told, though, to cut juice from his diet entirely.  We'll see what happens.
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