me too, i've seen some heavy petting like that here in the us. in romania that wouldn't have happened (in church) for a host of reasons. I wasn't scandalized but i thought it was silly.
On the original topic (I think), I have seen the flesh of a female buttock while "it" was approaching the Holy Gifts. Maybe some middle ground is needed between that and the Little House on the Prairie attire.
I can top that...I once saw a married couple in the middle of what can only be described as foreplay as they walked up to the chalice.
Wow. I honestly thought I would hold the top prize for longer than that. I concede that "heavy petting" beats "flesh of a buttock."
Thank you for your honesty. I don't believe men to be drooling and bumbling who "can't help it". I do believe we can actively try to keep our minds focused. There are men here that won't and apparently don't ever have their minds wander at all....
I guess I'm just not like that. I most likely would have noticed the flesh of a buttock too.... But I may be worse, as I may notice tight shirts, tight dresses, and low cut shirts too. Not that I am staring and drooling, I hope others understand. I'm talking about the small temptations, small wanderings, and distractions that men have.
The thing I'm disagreeing with several people here about is when they blame the "man" for all of it. Women *DO* sometimes try to bring attention to themselves in this manner. We all know this. In the scriptures it is said that people can cause others to sin. I absolutely believe this.
So I'm delving deep into the subject and taking the head covering issue further (which is why it seems radical). When a woman wears a head covering in a manner to bring glory to herself as a style, this wasn't the intent of the head covering.
I agree that it doesn't have to be Little House on the Prairie. But women should not be in competition with one another... Sisters in Christ should be concerned about their brothers in Christ falling. Sisters in Christ should wear their head covering as the headship veiling of submission to God, and to save their glory for their worldly head, their husband. The Mennonites are SORT OF similar to the nuns (from all of my observation being part of Orthodoxy for decades and being married to a Mennonite). From my wife's testimony, there is no competition of clothing and that the sisters do speak to one another about modesty or if one sister seems to be getting "more liberal". Like this, Nuns are not in competition and would certainly speak to their sisters if they got "more liberal". The Mennonite women I can only say oddly seems to be like "family / mothers / wives" but kind of like nuns in an odd way.
For the Orthodox Christians, there are many laywomen like this who do indeed recognize the importance of modesty and not being in competition with their sisters. In no way am I advocating that "Mennonites have dress right and EO wrong". There are many Mennonites that dress more liberal. It was an example of dress from a conservative group. The Old Believer Orthodox would be another example. I've also seen a lot of ROCOR photos where women dressed very respectfully and not in a luring way.
I will tell you though that the "little house on the prairie" look, often comes because they want to look similar and unchanging, non worldly, and from materials and labor from the USA. They find it ironic to go beg God for mercy, yet wear clothes made by others who are "enslaved" financially.
Again, I do not judge the women in the photos that I posted, but merely making an observance. The link photos are racy. (in fact there are way worse ones).