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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2014, 12:17:38 AM »
Don't get bogged down with the spiritual.  There's a reason God only lets us use 10% of our brains.  

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You are too clever. Really, tone it down.

I gotta retire for a while and wait for Fr. H to get righteous again.

Sounds exhausting. No one yet?

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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2014, 01:26:10 AM »
According to Plato, the purpose of life is to, in fully health and happiness, play before God.


And according to Aristotle it's to know God.  :)

Really? Can you expand that?

In his youngest days, he wrote a tract to that effect, calling all men to the philosophic life, and quoting in support certain well-regarded Pre-Socratics saying the purpose of life is to observe the heavens. This was not his mature view, as far as I know, and the tract was even rejected as spurious by his disciples, becoming the locus of prolonged fight between them and the Neo-Platonists. My summation of his mature view would be that the purpose of life is to achieve eudaemonia, blessed contentment both materially and psychologically, and that this is best achieved by the nurturing and pruning of oneself (the cultivation of arete) to become the best fit for one's particular station. The rule against which to plan such nurturing and pruning is that of the mean average, a calculus that would make scientific the old Greek adage "Moderation in all things."
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2014, 07:17:12 AM »
Dan, we can't let our own un-health cause us to see the purpose of life as unhealthy. From your posting history, I can conjecture that you may be passing through a phase of this on the way either to recovery or this. If so, it does sadden me that I would have no cure to suggest beyond the usual advice to see an expert. But at least (in my experience) it is better to be aware than not to be.

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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2014, 08:56:13 AM »
???

That's not even close to what I was talking about. Stay away from internet quizzes and see a doctor.
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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2014, 09:43:49 AM »
???

That's not even close to what I was talking about. Stay away from internet quizzes and see a doctor.

I just took it for the sake of it, to check... I am aware I might have some psychological problems I just can't tell what they are. Or I could be 100 sane with weird life :D.. What I know I have is some insane inner rage.. Anyway about your advice of seing a doctor, I am in a foreign country as I stand right now and my focus is to work as much as possible and find a good calm job.
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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2014, 09:47:16 AM »
There is psychotherapy in Romania, you know. Some things (most things) are more important than a job, and how will you handle a job if you are not in health?
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2014, 10:13:42 AM »
There is psychotherapy in Romania, you know. Some things (most things) are more important than a job, and how will you handle a job if you are not in health?

Do you read what I post? I am not in Romania right now.
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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2014, 10:46:11 AM »
According to Plato, the purpose of life is to, in fully health and happiness, play before God.


And according to Aristotle it's to know God.  :)

Really? Can you expand that?

In his youngest days, he wrote a tract to that effect, calling all men to the philosophic life, and quoting in support certain well-regarded Pre-Socratics saying the purpose of life is to observe the heavens. This was not his mature view, as far as I know, and the tract was even rejected as spurious by his disciples, becoming the locus of prolonged fight between them and the Neo-Platonists. My summation of his mature view would be that the purpose of life is to achieve eudaemonia, blessed contentment both materially and psychologically, and that this is best achieved by the nurturing and pruning of oneself (the cultivation of arete) to become the best fit for one's particular station. The rule against which to plan such nurturing and pruning is that of the mean average, a calculus that would make scientific the old Greek adage "Moderation in all things."
Aristotle ultimately argued that man's highest function his ability to know and contemplate on truth, and the the highest truth which one might contemplate is divine being.
"For, by its immensity, the divine substance surpasses every form that our intellect reaches. Thus we are unable to apprehend it by knowing what it is. Yet we are able to have some knowledge of it by knowing what it is not." - St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa contra gentiles, I, 14.

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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2014, 01:04:14 PM »
So I watched "Vanilla Sky" the other night and made me wonder about spiritual life and afterlife and being real with myself. The movie has a spiritual theme. David Aames(Tom Cruise)...
So my question is: What is the purpose of life?
The purpose of life is to avoid basing your philosophy of life on the last movie you watched.

Especially if it stars Tom Cruise.

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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2014, 02:37:12 PM »
There is psychotherapy in Romania, you know. Some things (most things) are more important than a job, and how will you handle a job if you are not in health?

Do you read what I post? I am not in Romania right now.

I can rephrase. There is psychotherapy in foreign country X, and finding it is more important even than making that income; don't make excuses: it's your life that's on the line.
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Nihilism and The purpose of Life
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2014, 08:38:32 AM »
There is psychotherapy in Romania, you know. Some things (most things) are more important than a job, and how will you handle a job if you are not in health?

Do you read what I post? I am not in Romania right now.

I can rephrase. There is psychotherapy in foreign country X, and finding it is more important even than making that income; don't make excuses: it's your life that's on the line.

My life starts after my sacrifice :D
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