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Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« on: January 03, 2014, 02:36:19 PM »
I would like to know more about the history of Eastern Orthodoxy during the time of the Ottoman Empire.

What books would you recommend?

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 02:56:55 PM »
The Legacy of Jihad: Non-Muslims under Islam by Andrew Bostom M.D. has some articles about Orthodox Christians, mainly primary sources I own it, there are a few articles translated from Turkish and Greek in it.

The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude: Seventh-Twentieth Century by Bat Ye'or, I haven't read it but the title is very helpful; also probably filled with primary sources, I think I saw it at Google Books once. I think this book is closer to the subject matter that you are looking for.

I also know that St. Gregory Palamas operated under the Ottomans, if that helps.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 11:21:34 PM »
For history books in English dealing specifically with the Rum or the Orthodox millet, I'd start with Sir Steven Runciman.  For an historian he is eminently readable as well.  Wouldn't suggest Gibbons or his strain of historiography which was pretty dismissive of Eastern Orthodox.   There generally is a lot more and better quality history on Byzantium in general, but specifically dealing with just Eastern Orthodoxy, and in English, I don't know of anything else.   

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Probably in Greek scholarship there is a lot more available and their history departments are probably not endowed by Turkish funds as was discovered to be the case with some American universities.  The Turkish government denies the genocides perpetrated on Christian millets, which inspired Hitler to believe he could also commit genocide and the world would never notice.  That era of the Young Turks is a topic unto itself.   

There is still a lot of political wrangling from Turkey about the issue even to this day, and they vehemently deny that anything bad happened though there is a lot of evidence that they meet the legal definition of genocide set forth by the United Nations. 

Ironically, the genocide in Turkey was America's first grass roots foray into international human rights issues on behalf of the Armenians and Greeks.


 

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 11:56:25 AM »
Thank you both.

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014, 12:11:08 PM »
The Legacy of Jihad: Non-Muslims under Islam by Andrew Bostom M.D. has some articles about Orthodox Christians, mainly primary sources I own it, there are a few articles translated from Turkish and Greek in it.

The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude: Seventh-Twentieth Century by Bat Ye'or, I haven't read it but the title is very helpful; also probably filled with primary sources, I think I saw it at Google Books once. I think this book is closer to the subject matter that you are looking for.

I also know that St. Gregory Palamas operated under the Ottomans, if that helps.
I know he was abducted by them for a while.

In terms of general works, on Palestine and Syria "The Russian Presence in Syria and Palestine, 1843-1914: Church and Politics in the Near East" [Derek Hopwood] gives a good picture of the later period.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2014, 01:49:30 PM »
"Witnesses for Christ" by Nomikos Vaporis

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"A masterful study of almost two hundred Orthodox Christians who had to choose between conversion to Islam and death. This book focuses on the clash between Orthodox and Islamic cultures, illustrating how the Ottoman Muslims became decreasingly tolerant of Orthodox Christians as their empire declined. Includes many translations of the dialogues between the Neomartyrs and the Muslim judges who sentenced them to death."

http://www.light-n-life.com/witnesses-for-christ.html

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2014, 01:50:25 PM »
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The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude: Seventh-Twentieth Century by Bat Ye'or, I haven't read it but the title is very helpful; also probably filled with primary sources, I think I saw it at Google Books once. I think this book is closer to the subject matter that you are looking for.
I have read part of this book and would definitely recommend it.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2014, 02:23:47 PM »
Is there any more recent scholarship out there?
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2014, 02:43:54 PM »
Is there any more recent scholarship out there?

The most recent and most comprehensive book on Orthodox under the Ottomans up to 1831 is Constantine Panchenko's book Ближневосточное Православие под османским владычеством. Первые три столетия. 1516–1831 (Near Eastern Orthodoxy under Ottoman Rule: The First Three Centuries 1516-1831). It is currently being translated into English, but until the translation comes out, the table of contents is available here: http://indrik.ru/2012/panchenko-k-a-blizhnevostochnoe-pravoslavie-pod-osmanskim-vlady-chestvom-pervye-tri-stoletiya-1516-1831

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 02:59:12 PM »
Is there any more recent scholarship out there?

The most recent and most comprehensive book on Orthodox under the Ottomans up to 1831 is Constantine Panchenko's book Ближневосточное Православие под османским владычеством. Первые три столетия. 1516–1831 (Near Eastern Orthodoxy under Ottoman Rule: The First Three Centuries 1516-1831). It is currently being translated into English, but until the translation comes out, the table of contents is available here: http://indrik.ru/2012/panchenko-k-a-blizhnevostochnoe-pravoslavie-pod-osmanskim-vlady-chestvom-pervye-tri-stoletiya-1516-1831

Thanks! If only my Russian were good enough. So much scholarship on Orthodox topics is not in English.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 03:10:08 PM »
Is there any more recent scholarship out there?

The most recent and most comprehensive book on Orthodox under the Ottomans up to 1831 is Constantine Panchenko's book Ближневосточное Православие под османским владычеством. Первые три столетия. 1516–1831 (Near Eastern Orthodoxy under Ottoman Rule: The First Three Centuries 1516-1831). It is currently being translated into English, but until the translation comes out, the table of contents is available here: http://indrik.ru/2012/panchenko-k-a-blizhnevostochnoe-pravoslavie-pod-osmanskim-vlady-chestvom-pervye-tri-stoletiya-1516-1831

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy in the Ottoman Empire
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2014, 10:52:40 PM »
Thanks for the additional citations.