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« on: December 29, 2013, 10:38:49 PM »

I was just banned from CAF for "Contempt for Catholicism, disrepsect for Catholics and agenda of EO proselytizing" by posting this:

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If primacy is a charism of being a direct line from Peter, why is Antioch forth? Why is it not second, or first with Rome being second?
If infallibility was given to Peter alone, then both Petrine seas have this charism. One is claiming the infallibility to himself (Rome), while the other is denying it and maintains the conciliar nature of the episcopoi (Antioch). This is conflicting bindings by those who have the keys. Therefore one is right and the other is wrong. Is Rome right for having the highest honor among the Pentarchs? Or is Antioch right in agreeing with the other four?

Um...what???

Oh, and the thread which was about 8 pages has been completely deleted.
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2013, 10:50:51 PM »

I was just banned from CAF for "Contempt for Catholicism, disrepsect for Catholics and agenda of EO proselytizing" by posting this:

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If primacy is a charism of being a direct line from Peter, why is Antioch forth? Why is it not second, or first with Rome being second?
If infallibility was given to Peter alone, then both Petrine seas have this charism. One is claiming the infallibility to himself (Rome), while the other is denying it and maintains the conciliar nature of the episcopoi (Antioch). This is conflicting bindings by those who have the keys. Therefore one is right and the other is wrong. Is Rome right for having the highest honor among the Pentarchs? Or is Antioch right in agreeing with the other four?

Um...what???

Oh, and the thread which was about 8 pages has been completely deleted.
That don't like those who don't shut up and guzzle down the Kool-Aid and like it.

You can read about the great Orthodox purge here:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13287.0.html

Btw, your reasoning is sound.  Which is why they can't have you posting there.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2013, 11:13:50 PM »

That's odd. I've made that exact point in not so many words many times over there, and not been banned for it. I'm frequently given infractions for "contempt toward Catholicism", though. I don't know why they wouldn't take intermediate steps with you as they have with me (e.g., suspension, rather than banning). Mods work in mysterious ways, I suppose. Anyway, sorry that happened to you, Alex. Sad
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2013, 11:26:36 PM »

That's odd. I've made that exact point in not so many words many times over there, and not been banned for it. I'm frequently given infractions for "contempt toward Catholicism", though. I don't know why they wouldn't take intermediate steps with you as they have with me (e.g., suspension, rather than banning). Mods work in mysterious ways, I suppose. Anyway, sorry that happened to you, Alex. Sad
I posted similar and wasn't banned for it.  Perhaps with repetition it is attracting too many eager ears (or eyes)? Wink
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 12:43:13 AM »

I have had a friend get banned on CAF for talking about "wanting to possibly convert to Orthodoxy." I guess doubting Catholicism isn't tolerated. I'm sorry that this has happened to many of you on behalf of the true faithful Catholics on CAF who are willing to hear the Orthodox side of the aisle.

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2013, 02:24:46 AM »

I too ended my run at CAF this week (the reasons for my banning were identical to yours).   Was it the thread about silly Apologetic Arguments that Latins use?   If so than that is disturbing, as it seems it was a blanket ban on anybody who participated in it (or perhaps just any Orthodox who poked their nose in there).  Montalban was banned, a poster with almost 8,000 posts to his/her credit.    I posted a link to the Catholic Answers Tract on Eastern Orthodoxy in that thread and snarkily noted how wrong it is....so I figured that my banning was inevitable but why ban you or anyone else?

I am not dwelling on it,  but things seem to be getting heated and hostile for Orthodox over there lately.   I did get belligerent at times, in particular returning the fire of some posters over there when I should not have.

It is good that Dzheremi and Cavaradossi have not been banned, as their defenses of Orthodoxy sabotage the Polemics with real Information.

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 09:56:12 PM »

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They purge a lot more of us than you.

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2013, 10:11:54 PM »

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You can read about the great Orthodox purge here:
They purge a lot more of us than you.

Trust me.

That is sadly true.

More of us Traditional Catholics get purged than Orthodox, any day. I don't get why opposing modernism would get you removed from a Catholic site though. Its sad.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2013, 10:13:50 PM »

Purged? Complex much?
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2014, 12:16:14 AM »

I too ended my run at CAF this week (the reasons for my banning were identical to yours).   Was it the thread about silly Apologetic Arguments that Latins use?   If so than that is disturbing, as it seems it was a blanket ban on anybody who participated in it (or perhaps just any Orthodox who poked their nose in there).  Montalban was banned, a poster with almost 8,000 posts to his/her credit.    I posted a link to the Catholic Answers Tract on Eastern Orthodoxy in that thread and snarkily noted how wrong it is....so I figured that my banning was inevitable but why ban you or anyone else?

I am not dwelling on it,  but things seem to be getting heated and hostile for Orthodox over there lately.   I did get belligerent at times, in particular returning the fire of some posters over there when I should not have.

It is good that Dzheremi and Cavaradossi have not been banned, as their defenses of Orthodoxy sabotage the Polemics with real Information.



That was the post, yes!!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2014, 12:23:15 AM »

I too ended my run at CAF this week (the reasons for my banning were identical to yours).   Was it the thread about silly Apologetic Arguments that Latins use?   If so than that is disturbing, as it seems it was a blanket ban on anybody who participated in it (or perhaps just any Orthodox who poked their nose in there).  Montalban was banned, a poster with almost 8,000 posts to his/her credit.    I posted a link to the Catholic Answers Tract on Eastern Orthodoxy in that thread and snarkily noted how wrong it is....so I figured that my banning was inevitable but why ban you or anyone else?

I am not dwelling on it,  but things seem to be getting heated and hostile for Orthodox over there lately.   I did get belligerent at times, in particular returning the fire of some posters over there when I should not have.

It is good that Dzheremi and Cavaradossi have not been banned, as their defenses of Orthodoxy sabotage the Polemics with real Information.



I haven't ever looked at that place, but really to place Jeremy into the same sentence with Cavaradossi is madness. Cavaradossi is no lightweight in any area, much less when he is in one of his many wheelhouses, one of which appears to be destroying RC apologetics.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2014, 03:08:04 AM »

I was just banned from CAF for "Contempt for Catholicism, disrepsect for Catholics and agenda of EO proselytizing" by posting this:

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If primacy is a charism of being a direct line from Peter, why is Antioch forth? Why is it not second, or first with Rome being second?
If infallibility was given to Peter alone, then both Petrine seas have this charism. One is claiming the infallibility to himself (Rome), while the other is denying it and maintains the conciliar nature of the episcopoi (Antioch). This is conflicting bindings by those who have the keys. Therefore one is right and the other is wrong. Is Rome right for having the highest honor among the Pentarchs? Or is Antioch right in agreeing with the other four?

Um...what???

Oh, and the thread which was about 8 pages has been completely deleted.
Part of my wants to say congrats on being banned.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2014, 04:45:28 AM »

I've just been banned 'forever' from Catholic Answers. Anyone else had that honour?



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I've never disrepsected anyone  laugh

However, seriously I started a thread about two very weak arguments Catholic apologists make:

One is based on stats - that aside from Jesus Peter is mentioned more times in the NT than anyone else

The other is based on a premise that is itself flawed - that Peter is always mentioned first in lists of apostles. The conclusion is based on the idea that it is significant, because it is, because it is, but the premise itself is flawed because there are exceptions
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2014, 04:56:54 AM »

We had a thread about six years ago where a bunch of CAF refugees gathered to discuss a mass purge CAF had conducted on their site, a purge that saw a large number of Orthodox posters get banned. It's even a sticky on this section, though I believe it is now locked.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2014, 06:03:20 AM »

I was just banned from CAF

Welcome to the club.
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 06:14:56 AM »

Comrades, be brave, THIS IS OC NET!!!

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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2014, 08:41:21 AM »

Might I suggest it their loss and not yours....
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2014, 09:03:48 AM »

Welcome to the club.
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2014, 09:06:08 AM »

I do not believe I have been banned there. Though I haven't made many posts either.

EDIT--Eleven posts in 2 1/2 years, to be exact.

EDIT--Though now that I think about it, I think I had my first account there c. 2001ish, and got banned on that one. Or maybe I didn't. Was that Byzcafe that banned me? Or both? I'm not sure...
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2014, 09:24:49 AM »

I suggest all of the "I got banned from CAF" threads be merged into one.
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2014, 09:27:42 AM »

Was that Byzcafe that banned me? Or both? I'm not sure...
Do you mean "Byzcath"?
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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2014, 09:36:05 AM »

Was that Byzcafe that banned me? Or both? I'm not sure...
Do you mean "Byzcath"?

That may be it, I am unable to remember anything about it, as I experienced it as in a dream.
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2014, 09:40:17 AM »

The great irony is that they have a banner saying that they are 'defending the faith'. Obviously defence involves muting argument
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« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2014, 10:19:40 AM »

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There are two senses to this word here.  Also, there is a certain consistency about it, I have to admit.
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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2014, 02:06:32 PM »

The two threads that have been running in parallel on this subject have since been merged.
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2014, 02:58:10 AM »

Purged? Complex much?

What complex is it to say one is purged from a site? He did not say killed or martyred or any such thing

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2014, 10:56:58 PM »

I've just been banned 'forever' from Catholic Answers. Anyone else had that honour?



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I've never disrepsected anyone  laugh

However, seriously I started a thread about two very weak arguments Catholic apologists make:

One is based on stats - that aside from Jesus Peter is mentioned more times in the NT than anyone else

The other is based on a premise that is itself flawed - that Peter is always mentioned first in lists of apostles. The conclusion is based on the idea that it is significant, because it is, because it is, but the premise itself is flawed because there are exceptions
The "agenda for EO proselytizing" is new.  We must be getting under Karl's skin.
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2014, 10:58:32 PM »

The great irony is that they have a banner saying that they are 'defending the faith'. Obviously defence involves muting argument
of course.  the best defense is no opponent.
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2014, 11:45:35 PM »

I have been posting and observing there for several years now, and I can honestly say I've never seen an EO poster proselytize anyone. Maybe I missed that, but I kinda doubt it. Then again, I've been accused of proselytizing for inviting in the broadest terms possible any who might wish to attend the Coptic Orthodox liturgy at St. Bishoy COC in Albuquerque, as it is after all open to all to experience provided they not try to commune if they are not OO (I wished to highlight this in the context of a discussion where some RC member was going off about how terribly "ethnic" and unwelcoming the Orthodox supposedly are...y'know, so ethnic that they let the likes of me in). So perhaps some overly sensitive Latin mistook friendliness or (more likely) basic disagreement with RC dogmas and explanation of EO stances for proselytizing. Weird. I like some of the individual posters, but it's not a great atmosphere over there sometimes.
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2014, 09:59:34 AM »

I too get banned for no same reason (but not proselytizing).
I was asking why do you think the Bible is the word of God (on a thread opened by a Christian asking the same question), only to get the silly answer "because the Catholic Church says so". Gosh! If I were to take the word of the RCC, I would have converted.
Then I told the OP, see they have no answer and pointed to Biblical contradictions, lol!
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