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Question: What is currently holding or what held you back initially the most from converting to Orthodoxy?
Family - 16 (33.3%)
Difference in music at Divine Liturgy - 1 (2.1%)
Lack of lay eucharistic ministers - 1 (2.1%)
No Pope - 3 (6.3%)
OC is too flexible on moral issues - 3 (6.3%)
OC is not flexible enough on moral issues - 4 (8.3%)
Too ethnic - 5 (10.4%)
No woman priests/deacons - 2 (4.2%)
No altar girls - 2 (4.2%)
Other - 11 (22.9%)
Total Voters: 28

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« on: December 28, 2013, 11:29:36 AM »

Just wondering for myself about other peoples conversion, or lack of, experience around here.  I know some of the things that are making the switch difficult.  I actually think this is good though since changing ones religious faith, even from within Christianity, should not be taken lightly.
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2013, 12:15:58 PM »

This poll lacks option "I fear I became like those lunatics on OC.net".
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2013, 12:32:28 PM »

This poll lacks option "I fear I became like those lunatics on OC.net".

Ha ha.  Just like the rest of us, you're on that list.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2013, 12:41:35 PM »

Seems like family/culture is a big hurdle.  Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between the big T Tradition and the pious little t traditions.  Although I've been Orthodox now for purt' near 10 years, sometimes I feel like I'm pretending to be something I'm not.  Like adopting Greek or Russian customs that, although pious and sincere, don't really have much to do with the Big T Traditions.  I reckon this is what some of y'all round here call LARPing (Live Action Role Playing).  I sure don't mean to offend, but some of these little t traditions seem mighty strange and foreign to the rural folks of the Ozark mountains and so, I could see where it'd be a culture shock to some families if it weren't approached and explained carefully.  Sometimes I feel like I stand out like a drag queen at a tractor pull.  Cheesy  Does any of this make sense?
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2013, 03:08:47 PM »

Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between the big T Tradition and the pious little t traditions.

A way I've always distinguished between the 2 is big T are about what we believe and little t are about what we do, more specifically little t's are often how big T's express themselves in their contemporary culture.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2013, 03:14:01 PM »

What's not holding you can be question as well. My conscience as far as the truth is a good place to look.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2013, 02:27:25 AM »

Used to be family, not any more now it's just process time.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2013, 09:35:06 AM »

1. I was waiting to be 18. And the issue of my mother, I had predicted she would be upset about the conversion to "the faith of my father" (you know, it has nothing to do with faith, just that I prefer father Roll Eyes), so that's why I waited a few years. So it was family problem. Eventually, mother has accepted it and from time to time also attend Orthodox services and observe Orthodox Pascha more than earlier, as now with my father we're the majority in the family Wink

2. And issues connected with liturgical aspects, that although it's Orthodox Church, there are some not proper and not correct things (e.g Vesperal Liturgy done in the morning of the Maundy Thursday) and, a minor thing, chanting that I'm not used to, as my roots are Serbian (so, the thing about chant you can call ethnic problem in some way). But in the end I thought that Orthodox Church is still the most Orthodox in the world and despite having proper Paschal Vigil and Maundy Thursday, Roman Catholics don't have the rest of the Holy Week and Lazarus Saturday and very bad, modern "liturgy", and above all, they are heretics I'm still not used to it and probably they're most difficult issues for me now in Orthodoxy, really.

3. There was also fear about very rare taking Holy Eucharist and not meeting a good spiritual father and confessor (before being Orthodox I had a Catholic one, who was accepting my Orthodox views), but I fortunately I was wrong and met wonderful priest, so both these problems turned out to be fictitious.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2013, 02:01:13 PM »

What is holding me back from converting to the Orthodox Church would have to be that there is no Pope. I don't want to get into the argument right now and if someone thinks they can convince me otherwise, please PM me but I see the scriptural and historical evidence along with the early church fathers proof that there has always been a papacy.

I do commend the Orthodox on their deep spirituality and maintenance of tradition that is sadly falling in mainstream Catholicism today. That's why I am a traditional Catholic.

God bless!
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2013, 02:04:39 PM »

We have a pope.

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2013, 02:06:00 PM »

We have a pope.



You don't have the successor of St. Peter as your Pope in Rome as Church tradition has it, though.
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2013, 02:08:53 PM »

You don't have the successor of St. Peter as your Pope in Rome as Church tradition has it, though.

Neither does the Roman Catholic Church.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2013, 02:46:56 PM »

You don't have the successor of St. Peter as your Pope in Rome as Church tradition has it, though.

Neither does the Roman Catholic Church.
We,  the Antiochian Church,  do.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2013, 05:03:28 PM »

You don't have the successor of St. Peter as your Pope in Rome as Church tradition has it, though.

Neither does the Roman Catholic Church.
We,  the Antiochian Church,  do.

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2013, 11:38:04 PM »

I would've converted immediately, but the priest made me attend services and classes and read a lot of books for about 7 months.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2013, 12:35:47 AM »

This poll lacks option "I fear I became like those lunatics on OC.net".

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(Of course, one can console oneself with the knowledge that they're not really Orthodox anyway. That's how I'm able to get to sleep at night. Smiley )
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2013, 01:55:41 AM »

Knowledge. I fear a repeat of when I was Muslim, and instead of fully learning before converting I did it as I went. I can't have that happen again as stupid as it may sound.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2013, 09:41:06 AM »

I too fear jumping in too fast.  I tend to get very gung ho about things and run in full tilt and overzealous.  Then I find myself either burned out or regretting because I didn't take the time to consider all the angles.  My family also knows this about me so tends to take any new passions with a grain of salt.  I know this type of decision needs the time it deserves.   I have contacted my local priest though and hope to hear from him soon with some advice.
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2013, 11:29:33 AM »

What is holding me back from converting to the Orthodox Church would have to be that there is no Pope. I don't want to get into the argument right now and if someone thinks they can convince me otherwise, please PM me but I see the scriptural and historical evidence along with the early church fathers proof that there has always been a papacy.

I do commend the Orthodox on their deep spirituality and maintenance of tradition that is sadly falling in mainstream Catholicism today. That's why I am a traditional Catholic.

God bless!

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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2013, 11:32:16 AM »

Knowledge. I fear a repeat of when I was Muslim, and instead of fully learning before converting I did it as I went. I can't have that happen again as stupid as it may sound.

 I get it.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2014, 03:48:08 PM »

Mainly a lack of certainty about what I want to do (and/or what God wants to do) with my life and where I should be going. I also don't want to rush into the Orthodox Church the same way I rushed into the Catholic Church.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2014, 09:48:03 PM »

I'm also not wanting to jump in too fast. I'm lucky that I found a good local church with a great priest to help me along but I don't know how much that will even help. I'm still learning more about the faith everyday and just trying to get accustomed to the changes that are coming along the way. I also have family concerns - not that extended family will care. Honestly coming into this from being "non-Christian" they'll just be thrilled I went to ANY Christian church. It's my little family that's a hangup - making sure I'm doing the absolute right thing in my heart for my kids and that my husband accepts it. I can't expose my kids to this new life and then change my mind.
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2014, 12:50:51 AM »

why save my soul while I can delay! i am sure i wont die any time soon....

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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2014, 11:59:10 AM »

Mainly a lack of certainty about what I want to do (and/or what God wants to do) with my life and where I should be going. I also don't want to rush into the Orthodox Church the same way I rushed into the Catholic Church.

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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2014, 04:57:06 PM »

You should add geography.  I'm not convinced that Protestantism is so godless as to require me to drive two hours by myself to the nearest parish.
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2014, 05:28:10 PM »

Sure, why inconvenience yourself to experience the fullness of the Faith?

In fact, why bother to go to any church at all? Just sit out in the backyard in your jammies. After all, God is everywhere.
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« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2014, 05:38:18 PM »

Sure, why inconvenience yourself to experience the fullness of the Faith?

In fact, why bother to go to any church at all? Just sit out in the backyard in your jammies. After all, God is everywhere.

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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2014, 06:45:39 PM »

Sure, why inconvenience yourself to experience the fullness of the Faith?

In fact, why bother to go to any church at all? Just sit out in the backyard in your jammies. After all, God is everywhere.
LOL, that was kinda harsh, but it did make me laugh.  laugh
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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2014, 07:00:05 PM »

You don't seem to have an option for "I want it to be true, but I really question whether it is".  angel
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2014, 07:29:34 PM »

Its time to examine the real reasons for becoming Orthodox.

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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2014, 07:40:02 PM »

What is holding me back from converting to the Orthodox Church would have to be that there is no Pope. I don't want to get into the argument right now and if someone thinks they can convince me otherwise, please PM me but I see the scriptural and historical evidence along with the early church fathers proof that there has always been a papacy.

I do commend the Orthodox on their deep spirituality and maintenance of tradition that is sadly falling in mainstream Catholicism today. That's why I am a traditional Catholic.

God bless!

Have you visited Orthodox parishes before?  Many times?  Sorry If I just haven't paid attention if you've mentioned this.
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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2014, 07:49:29 PM »

When I converted to Catholicism I felt like this.


But when I discern converting to Orthodoxy I feel like this.


I am leaning towards becoming Orthodox, but the entire process to me is rather intimidating and scary.
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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2014, 08:03:04 PM »

When I converted to Catholicism I felt like this.


But when I discern converting to Orthodoxy I feel like this.


I am leaning towards becoming Orthodox, but the entire process to me is rather intimidating and scary.
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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2014, 08:43:55 PM »

When I converted to Catholicism I felt like this.

So whistling and dancing but apparently driving backwards?  Wink
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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2014, 09:57:59 PM »

Sure, why inconvenience yourself to experience the fullness of the Faith?

In fact, why bother to go to any church at all? Just sit out in the backyard in your jammies. After all, God is everywhere.

I am heavily involved in my Protestant church where I have experienced, what I believe to be, much grace, love and truth.  There are reasons in addition to geography for my not attending the nearest parish - it is more a combination of factors.  In the future my situation my change in which case I look forward to begin frequently visiting a parish.
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