i didn't see anything in the many tiny clips of film that was not compatible with a orthodox Christian meeting.
as a previously 'charismatic' protestant Christian, i would recognise that.
Unfortunately, I can't yet say that I agree, though I truly hope you'll convince me otherwise.
I'm also very familiar with the world of Charismatic Christianity, having many friends and family members who are Pentecostals or ex-Pentecostals, and I do see a few things in the meeting that lead me to different conclusions than those you've reached. I'm not saying that these points are definitive, but I do feel that they are worthy of notation, especially in light of H.H. the Pope's recent investigations into Protestant influence in the Church and all of the measures the Church has had to take in recent years to counter Protestant influence
Again, I'm not looking to find fault and I sincerely pray that it's not as bad as it may appear. Kindly allow me to list my concerns point by point:
For starters, the reporter introduces this segment of the program by describing the event as a "Coptic Charismatic service". Who introduced the event to him in this way? He's obviously not drawing his own conclusions. Someone told him that that is what the event was. Was it Febe Armanios who is an "expert" on Copts and affiliated with the Pentecostal and Charismatic Research Initiative? Is this how the service was advertised?
Secondly, there's clearly some kind of Protestant-style choir with instrumental accompaniment onstage leading the "praise & worship". Can anyone identify the song they are singing? It doesn't sound particularly Charismatic to me, but it does seem to elicit the kind of hand-raising, body-swaying emotionalism prevalent in the early stages of Charismatic or Pentecostal services to get the people "feeling the (so-called) spirit". The singing of Protestant songs is inappropriate at any
Orthodox service or event.
Thirdly, right from the beginning, we can see said emotionalism taking hold of some of the participants, particularly the women you've identified as raising their hands and swaying back-and-forth, et cetera. Let's hope they are - as you've asserted - Protestant visitors. If not, they've definitely been influenced by Charismatic practices which is never a good thing.
If they are
Protestants, however, how do they know the songs? Again, as per H.G. Anba David and the Coptic Orthodox Holy Synod, all of the songs and materials used in all of our corporate worship or meetings should be Orthodox in origin and ethos.
i also make every effort to alert people in the orthodox church to the dangers of emotionalism and of looking for miracles
Good. Glory to God.
(our miracles are usually performed by holy men and women who seek to avoid publicity as this is the way of humility).
no one is yelling 'in the name of Jesus', there are not any people becoming hysterical and falling on the floor, and i didn't see any clapping or dancing.
I saw some clapping, but nothing particularly fervent. Thank God, I agree, I didn't see any dancing or anyone other than the "possessed" becoming hysterical.
as for febe armanios, she is a professor of history of egyptian origin working with this group:
so she may have a protestant background.
This is perhaps the most telling point of all. The mission statement of this organization is to "provide a scholarly framework to investigate Pentecostalism and the various renewal movements" that have emerged in more traditional churches. Armanios is likely studying this sort of thing among the Copts, about whom she is apparently an "expert" (and she is certainly possessed of a Coptic name).
In all likelihood, she is the one who identified the above-mentioned service as Charismatic for the reporter. Why would she do so if that is not what it is, seeing as how she is apparently an expert of Charismatism, Pentecostalism and Copts?
Furthermore, Armanios seems to identify the exorcisms and the entire service as part of a collective emotional release in the face of the people feeling helpless before their persecutors, a hallmark of Charismatism and Pentecostalism.
The clip was also cut to simulate a more frenetic pace than the service likely had, but that might be due to editing for sensationalism.
Again, these points are far from definitive, but at the least they indicate a degree of Evangelical and/or Charismatic influence, and even an iota of that is inappropriate for any Orthodox Church.
may God bless and guide all those in the church featured and in egypt today to know Him and His love in truth.
Amen. May God preserve His Church in Orthodox Faith and practice.